Boston Bar Scene

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  1. Resuin

    Resuin Meyvn (1,338) Jun 18, 2012 Massachusetts
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    The food is really good at Lord Hobo, that’s the main reason I go. They also get some interesting stuff on tap from time to time, although it is a bit expensive. Not as high as Meadhall though.
     
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  2. bostonwolf

    bostonwolf Initiate (127) Jan 20, 2015 Massachusetts

    I feel like I have yet to have a good pint of cask beer. Ever. I love the idea, but every one I've ever purchased has tasted flat. Not lower carbonation, no carbonation.
     
  3. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Savant (961) Mar 17, 2009 Washington

    Haha! I got a $9 pour of Italo Disco the other week and Oxbow isn't even distributed here. It's an old topic but the Boston area is a very expensive place to go out for drinks.
     
  4. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Poo-Bah (1,916) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Ever been to NERAX?

    I've had some excellent cask pours at Redbones, but I feel like I've also had some crappy ones there. Can't think of where else I've had some good cask beer off the top of my head, but I've definitely had some.
     
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  5. followerofmen

    followerofmen Initiate (104) Sep 9, 2012 Massachusetts

    NINE DOLLARS FOR A BE HOPPY
     
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  6. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Poo-Bah (1,916) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    How much for the water there?
     
  7. kinopio

    kinopio Aspirant (278) Apr 30, 2009 Massachusetts

    Cambridge Brewing taps a new cask every wednesday so no worries if its fresh or not. Plus the beers are about 50% cheaper than down the street at Lord Hobo.
     
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  8. DroppinBiscuits

    DroppinBiscuits Initiate (22) Sep 21, 2007 Massachusetts

    heres the thing people forget when it comes to pricing. most of the new beer everyone wants cost at a MINIMUM $240 for a half barrel where Notch is $156/$180. the reason why beers like Pils and Be Hoppy are $8 a pint is to help offset the cost of the expensive stuff and keep the pricing under $10. Thats a FACT.

    I was in a bar yesterday that had $9 pints of Guinness and $7 pints of Whirlpool.
     
  9. Sweatshirt

    Sweatshirt Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2014 New Hampshire
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    They aren't keeping the more expensive beers under $10, many are also in a smaller format. An $8 pint of even the more expensive half barrels still fall well in the 70-80% profit margin bars try to achieve. Go less than a pint and they are making far far beyond that. Go less than a pint and more than $8 and those numbers sky rocket.

    The fact is they are using perceived value to charge more. Playing games with their own beer and cheaper beer pricing allows for a $12 8oz pour to look normalized.
     
  10. jbertsch

    jbertsch Poo-Bah (1,592) Dec 14, 2008 Massachusetts
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    I haven't been to Meadhall in forever. I think it was their first year in business when I was last there. A few friends asked I meet them there this Monday. I'm afraid of what I'll find. Are the prices still out of whack as they were back then? Or have most other bars caught up and now they're "normal"? To me, Meadhall was the first real expensive beer bar that drove me away because of price.
     
  11. Resuin

    Resuin Meyvn (1,338) Jun 18, 2012 Massachusetts
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    I lived a couple blocks away for a couple years, until recently. The prices are pretty out of whack. You’ll find stuff like $25 10 ounce pours of random beers, I don’t really get it. Some beers are priced more normally though. With such a huge selection, you’ll be okay with a few different beers but will need to be sure to check the prices before you order.
     
  12. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Poo-Bah (1,916) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    I was Lord Hobo for Zwanze Day and wanted to order a German beer I was interested in. I didn’t because it was $12.
     
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  13. SunDevilBeer

    SunDevilBeer Defender (668) May 9, 2003 Massachusetts

    And it would’ve come with half of it head & the other half with attitude from the server. Seriously eff that place.
     
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  14. SunDevilBeer

    SunDevilBeer Defender (668) May 9, 2003 Massachusetts

    If you know the ripoff strategies of these bars & still visit them - then YOU’RE part of the problem. Don’t pin this on customers for not knowing the inner workings of publicans.

    Reason # 582 why the Boston beer bar scene is unequivocally the worst in the US.
     
  15. meefmoff

    meefmoff Zealot (504) Jul 6, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Oh shit. If @AlcahueteJ is turning up his nose at prices we know things are *really* getting out of hand! :wink:
     
  16. followerofmen

    followerofmen Initiate (104) Sep 9, 2012 Massachusetts

    First of all, Sweatshirt just put those numbers to rest in the post below, secondly, charge what you need to on the beers you need to. Clearly there's no significant objection to 6/8/10/12 oz servings, so even if a keg is 50-60% more expensive, you can charge 10/8oz and still have $7 pints of Be Hoppy. I'm not at all here to rationalize NINE DOLLARS FOR A BE HOPPY, not at all.
     
  17. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Poo-Bah (1,916) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Haha, I was wondering, "Is someone going to point out that I never look at or care about price?"

    I have my limits. I just looked it up. It was "Mastodon", a Kellerbier from Mahr's Brau. $12 for 16 oz., no thanks.
     
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  18. EnronCFO

    EnronCFO Zealot (599) Mar 29, 2007 Massachusetts

    Traveling to SF this week for work. Now this is a taplist: http://www.toronado.com/whats-on-tap/

    Note that Allagash White can ship cross country to a more expensive city and be sold for $5/pint, but it’s $7-9 in Boston.
     
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  19. thedaveofbeer

    thedaveofbeer Aspirant (293) Mar 25, 2016 Massachusetts
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    Is there a city outside of Norway or Iceland that is more expensive to drink in than Boston?
     
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  20. Resuin

    Resuin Meyvn (1,338) Jun 18, 2012 Massachusetts
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    I used to live in Honolulu and it’s pretty pricey for craft drafts.
     
  21. bleakies

    bleakies Disciple (384) Apr 11, 2011 Massachusetts

    London
     
  22. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Poo-Bah (1,916) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    You pay the extra $2-4 for that uber freshness.
     
  23. kinopio

    kinopio Aspirant (278) Apr 30, 2009 Massachusetts

    Tokyo and Copenhagen are definitely more expensive for craft beer. But Tokyo can be cheap for other alcohol. There is a popular group of bars called 300 Bar where drinks are 300 yen which is less than $3 USD.
     
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  24. M-Fox24

    M-Fox24 Meyvn (1,446) Mar 17, 2013 New Jersey
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  25. yuppiescum

    yuppiescum Initiate (47) Jun 4, 2009 Massachusetts

    It's funny, this is the one and only commodity that's actually way cheaper in NYC due to happy hours, 2-for-1's, that kind of thing vs Boston's puritan ways.

    But even here, tip your bartenders and what goes around will come around eventually, folks!
     
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  26. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Poo-Bah (1,916) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    If you go above and beyond and/or establish a rapport with your bartender.

    In NY buy backs are quite common, not so much around Boston.
     
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  27. joberlander

    joberlander Disciple (363) May 30, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Olde Magouns, Rosebud diner, and salty pig all have great beer lists and love the atmosphere in each.
     
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  28. EnronCFO

    EnronCFO Zealot (599) Mar 29, 2007 Massachusetts

    I travel once a month for work. I get comped a beer like every other trip to NY, Chicago, SF, etc. simply by hanging at a bar and talking to a friendly bartender. I’ve only been comped a beer once in Boston and that was after I drukenly donated $200 to close out a local HS fundraiser the bar was running.
     
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  29. Jwale73

    Jwale73 Poo-Bah (5,138) Aug 15, 2007 Rhode Island
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    I think I figured out what you're doing with your spouse-free vacation. For god's sake, please shower at least every other day and clip your nails :wink:
     
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  30. EnronCFO

    EnronCFO Zealot (599) Mar 29, 2007 Massachusetts

    Drinking at home and hanging with the cat. Best vacation ever.
     
  31. ElmerTLee

    ElmerTLee Initiate (0) Apr 25, 2015 Connecticut

    I live in CT and used to go to Boston once a month for some good beer. The long trip prohibited having too much fun, but the prices ended up stopping those trips.

    I am going up soon for a show at Brighton Music Hall, so I may hang around that area and check out Lulu's(never been), or Uber to the Publick House or CBC. I used to love the Sunset..sad to see it gone. To show my age, I really miss Commonwealth Brewing.
     
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  32. meefmoff

    meefmoff Zealot (504) Jul 6, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Oh man Commonwealth! My first cask beer experience was there.

    I haven't made it to Lulu's yet to compare, but pretty much right next door is Deep Ellum which is also worth a look. Good food and a great tap list with a heavy emphasis on imports. Just be warned, prices have definitely not improved since you were last here :slight_frown:
     
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  33. ElmerTLee

    ElmerTLee Initiate (0) Apr 25, 2015 Connecticut

    Agreed. I really like Deep Ellum, except the prices.

    Is the Silhouette still around :slight_smile:
     
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  34. braineater

    braineater Initiate (41) Dec 24, 2005 Massachusetts

    If you don't like the prices at Ellum you might as well skip Lulu's.
     
  35. kinopio

    kinopio Aspirant (278) Apr 30, 2009 Massachusetts

    Brighton Music Hall has a second bar towards the back that, at least last time I was there, had a better beer selection than the bars in the front. Common Ground is another Allston spot with a good draft list and I think the prices are decent.
     
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  36. jbertsch

    jbertsch Poo-Bah (1,592) Dec 14, 2008 Massachusetts
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    Agreed on braineater's comment but I'll say that the 2 places serve different tastes. Go to Deep Ellum if you favor lagers, proper glassware and occasional cask. Go to Lulus if you don't care about any of those things and want NEIPAs, sours, and pastry stouts :slight_smile:
     
  37. ElmerTLee

    ElmerTLee Initiate (0) Apr 25, 2015 Connecticut

    Thanks brain and jbertsch!

    I'm ok with paying for something decent, plus it keeps me from drinking too much.

    If I could find Fullers London Pride on tap, I would sit all day and enjoy it.
     
  38. SunDevilBeer

    SunDevilBeer Defender (668) May 9, 2003 Massachusetts

    Any of the ~ 10 British Beer Co restaurants would be a good fit for you then. Always 4 Fullers tap lines going. Can’t recommend the food in any way though.

    https://britishbeer.com/
     
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  39. bleakies

    bleakies Disciple (384) Apr 11, 2011 Massachusetts

    The Sil's indestructible.
     
  40. bleakies

    bleakies Disciple (384) Apr 11, 2011 Massachusetts

    I think Cornwall's in Kenmore Square still keeps it on tap.
     
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