Bottled date should be mandatory

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by GetMeAnIPA, Feb 9, 2013.

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  1. davey101

    davey101 Meyvn (1,080) Apr 14, 2009 Connecticut
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    Hold on officer, its right here in my glovebox
  2. HipsterBrewfus

    HipsterBrewfus Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2012 Maryland

    I don't think its an outrageous question. I've never heard of it being illegal, so I thought id ask to see where you can prove it.
  3. kzoobrew

    kzoobrew Meyvn (1,167) May 8, 2006 Michigan

    Care to provide any sort of information to back up the statement? What is going to develop in the beer which will cause you to get sick?

    It certainly would not be any sort of bacterial sickness, beer cannot support the type of bacteria that will get you sick.
  4. kelvarnsen

    kelvarnsen Devotee (401) Nov 30, 2011 Ontario (Canada)

    Yea there is a bit of a flaw in the logic there. If it were illegal to sell beer past its best before date, then every beer would have a best before date. Right now you have some beers with nothing, some with a best before and some with a bottled on date. Plus who would decide what the date was? Would food inspectors and regulators know the difference between an IPA and say an imperial stout?
  5. OddNotion

    OddNotion Devotee (478) Nov 1, 2009 New Jersey
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    Enjoyability is an opinion not a fact (plenty of people "enjoy" crappy beer). And name an example of an old beer making someone sick. Overindulgence will make you sick, properly packaged old beer will not.

    No need for government regulation here - thats a waste of my and everyone elses tax dollars. The onus is on the brewery to date their products if it means better sales for them and on the distributor to make sure the shelves are stocked correctly.

    Let the individual breweries "protect" themselves here, there is no harm to the public.
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  6. Sneers

    Sneers Initiate (0) Dec 27, 2009 Pennsylvania

    When we generally talk about food spoilage it's due to the onset of bacterial or fungal activity, whether it be milk souring and curdling, vegetables rotting, or bread growing mold. Non-dried, non-perishables such as canned goods have been processed in such a way that it's near impossible for microbial activity to occur, and that's why they're so stable. Every professional brewer out there operates on the exact same premise.

    Of course, some foods can go bad without being dangerous in any way. Stale bread or freezer-burnt meat might not be as pleasant to eat, but it won't make you sick. Beer is the same.

    If you drank old beer then got sick, I'd suspect something caused it.
  7. kelvarnsen

    kelvarnsen Devotee (401) Nov 30, 2011 Ontario (Canada)

    Exactly, the only way you can really get sick is from drinking too many beers. Which is why I am surprised that %ABV is not a label requirement in the US.
  8. HipsterBrewfus

    HipsterBrewfus Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2012 Maryland

    if old beer got you sick, why would we age a lot of it? :confused:
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  9. kdb150

    kdb150 Devotee (485) Mar 8, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    There actually is an inudstry definition of what constitutes a craft brewery, and Boston Beer Co. fits it. Capitalizing the word "craft" doesn't change that fact.
  10. 4DAloveofSTOUT

    4DAloveofSTOUT Poo-Bah (2,313) Nov 28, 2008 Illinois
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    I agree! They should date all cans as well!
  11. yamar68

    yamar68 Initiate (0) Apr 1, 2011 Minnesota

    So it should be mandatory to date your bottles so that the consumer can see if the beer is expired because expired beer is gross?

    What about the wide array of beer that's gross to begin with? By this line of thinking, it should be illegal to brew gross beer.
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  12. jpvenezia

    jpvenezia Initiate (0) Mar 21, 2010 Pennsylvania

    I give my hard earned money to the breweries (by purchasing beer) with a best by date or a born on date. I'm not paying all this money on a case for it to be stale or for the freshness to be in question. No regulations need to be made, no rules, especially no gov't involvement, nothing. The market and the beer community will "vote" with their dollars from purchasing fresh beer. Once this becomes a trend, other breweries will follow.
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  13. HipsterBrewfus

    HipsterBrewfus Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2012 Maryland

    I'm the first to admit, I don't give a shit about dates. I never check them.

    Just take a breath, relax, close your eyes and repeat after me:

    "It's just beer"
  14. davey101

    davey101 Meyvn (1,080) Apr 14, 2009 Connecticut
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    If breweries just used the finest water and the finest quality malts this wouldn't be an issue. However these fascist American breweries are using an overabundance of ingredients to further dilute the purity of their beers. The reinheitsgebot knew what was up. /hamburgered
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  15. davey101

    davey101 Meyvn (1,080) Apr 14, 2009 Connecticut
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    You clearly missed this thread. I was being sarcastic sir.
  16. yamar68

    yamar68 Initiate (0) Apr 1, 2011 Minnesota

    //would you like fries with that?
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  17. Brunite

    Brunite Initiate (0) Sep 21, 2009 Illinois

    This is already being done. Perhaps the fancy script made it tougher to decipher:

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  18. davey101

    davey101 Meyvn (1,080) Apr 14, 2009 Connecticut
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    Beechwood in my beer? No thank you!
  19. jesskidden

    jesskidden Meyvn (1,306) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey

    Yeah, "It's just beer..." that's costing me $30-50 a case - so I want to know I'm buying it when it's at its best.
  20. HipsterBrewfus

    HipsterBrewfus Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2012 Maryland

    Phew, because Im almost done with page 2 and I was about to respond that I still don't see it.

    next time, use the sarcasm font.
  21. xanok

    xanok Disciple (369) Aug 13, 2009 Connecticut
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    No, it shouldn't be mandatory. Just stop buying that brewery's beer and send an email to them on why you didn't buy it. I stopped buying Green Flash until recently. Bear Republic's is too difficult to find and read, so I still avoid them as well.
  22. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Poo-Bah (12,229) Mar 18, 2010 California

  23. sunkistxsudafed

    sunkistxsudafed Initiate (0) Apr 30, 2010 New Mexico

    i don't like the idea of making things like this madatory. Regulation usually hurts the small guy. Craft beer is the small guy. If you want to guarantee freshness by it by the growler. If you say, "i can't do this for the breweries i want to drink fresh" then go try something local and get a growler from them. If freshness was that important to you then you'd rather drink brewery fresh growler than the 5 week old bottle in your distro. Simple personal choices on the margin. No need to propose new regulation to this budding industry/community.
  24. cavedave

    cavedave Poo-Bah (2,291) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Open window, take dollar bills, toss them out window, repeat after me, "It's just money"
  25. HipsterBrewfus

    HipsterBrewfus Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2012 Maryland

    I think you;re being a little over dramatic
  26. cavedave

    cavedave Poo-Bah (2,291) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    I honestly don't believe my scenario any more foolish,nor less, than yours. I don't buy without checking freshness, you don't chuck money out the window, just beer, just money.
  27. KansasBeerLover

    KansasBeerLover Disciple (341) Feb 16, 2009 Kansas

    Don't forget, they made the born on date popular!

    As for going to the liquor store looking for a date, I haven't tried it. Maybe I should, since I'm now single.
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