Bottling day tommorow

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  1. psnydez86

    psnydez86 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Pennsylvania

    So I'm bottling my American amber tomorrow and want some opininions... Bottles have been cleaned with easy clean then rinsed with my bottle jet bottle washer.... Il sanitize with star San tomorrow then use my sanitized dish washer as a make shift bottle tree/ bottle dryer. Do you guys make sure all your bottles are dry before bottling or doesn't a few left over star San bubbles bother you at bottling?? If anyone does like completely dry bottles do you use an oven ond or heat cycle in dish washer?? Would it be okay to sanitize bottles tonight and let them sit in the dishwasher all night till I bottle tomorrow afternoon?? Just wanting to get an idea what everyone thinks... I usuall have quite a few residual star San bubbles in my primary and haven't noticed any ill effects
     
  2. Britt

    Britt Pooh-Bah (1,998) Apr 17, 2009 Massachusetts
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    I tend to sanitize right before bottling. I clean my bottles to make certain they don't have any crud/mold/dust/less-than-tasty-things in them and then soak in Star San for a few minutes. I try to get as much Star San out of the bottles as possible, but they are definitely still wet when I fill and cap them.

    I've read a few threads about "not fearing the foam" that explained how residual Star San isn't at all harmful and won't have any impact on the flavor of your beer.
     
  3. meatballj626j

    meatballj626j Initiate (0) May 7, 2009 Georgia

    I bottle with the starsan in there. Doesnt have any effect.
     
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  4. psnydez86

    psnydez86 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Sweeet!! Thanks gentleman!!
     
  5. clearbrew

    clearbrew Initiate (0) Nov 3, 2009 Louisiana

    I would not leave my bottles in the dishwasher all night. There is usually a lot of mold and mildew hiding in and around dishwashers. Not to mention the drain line is tied to the kitchen sink drain. I've never had a problem sanitizing in a dishwasher, but I just wouldn't leave them in there after its done.
    Also, if you pour out the star san slowly you can minimize the amount of foam left over. But either way it won't hurt your beer.
    I don't recommend drying in the oven. The high heat work hardens the glass over time and they will become more brittle. Plus I don't feel its necessary.
    Just out of curiosity, why are you sanitizing with star san then resanitizing in the dishwasher?
     
  6. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,055) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Edit: brain fart. Nothing to see here.
     
  7. Danielbt

    Danielbt Initiate (0) May 4, 2012 Texas

    Good question. If you have a modern dishwasher with a sanitary rinse setting, you should be good to bottle straight out of the dishwasher.
     
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  8. cmmcdonn

    cmmcdonn Initiate (0) Jun 21, 2009 Virginia

    I read it as he was only using the (sanitized) dish washer as a medium to hold the bottles, not running them through any cycle.
     
  9. ShanePB

    ShanePB Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2010 Pennsylvania

    Just StarSan them and bottle. Truly, don't fear the foam. I always bottle and rack onto plenty of leftover foam.
     
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  10. HopNuggets

    HopNuggets Initiate (0) Oct 8, 2009 Connecticut

    Just put the bottles on the dishwasher racks upside down and run them through a cycle (as long as you don't have JetDry in your dishwasher). They they will be sanitized and on the "holding racks" ready to bottle. That's what I do and it works well. No sense in the extra steps.
     
  11. Danielbt

    Danielbt Initiate (0) May 4, 2012 Texas

    I think you're right. I got confused by the "sanitized dishwasher" language...which still begs the question: why sanitize the dishwasher and the bottles separately?

    When I got my brand new dishwasher and realized I could wash, rinse, and sanitize bottles all at once, I felt like I was cheating.
     
  12. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,055) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Not to disparage your method, which works fine for heat sanitizing, but I would seriously recommend making sure your bottles are clean before sanitizing in the dishwasher. I would not rely on a dishwasher to thoroughly clean every bottle, because of the small openings, random trajectories, and random angles (away from 90 degrees) of the bottles.
     
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  13. Danielbt

    Danielbt Initiate (0) May 4, 2012 Texas

    I didn't mean to imply that the dishwasher was the only thing that cleaned the bottles. I rinse out each bottle I plan on using right after I drink the beer, then soak all of them in Oxyclean overnight, then quickly rinse again. Using the dishwasher to "wash" them takes the place of a final rinse before sanitizing.
     
  14. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,540) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    I pull from my over night Oxi soak, rinse in tub of clean water, submerge in tub of StarSan, dump, place on dishwasher rack until I have enough on there to bottle the whole batch, then start at the front corner and work towards the opposite back corner (closest to chair at bottling bucket to furthest from chair). I also load the washer in the same order as I pull from, so by the time I am bottling the foam is fairly dried and they have been in contact for a good 10-20 minutes (at least).
     
  15. tngolfer

    tngolfer Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2012 Tennessee

    +1. I also rinse very well after drinking which leaves very little for the dishwasher to clean. I overnight soak in oxiclean if the bottles have labels or if they need a little something extra in which case I also use a bottle brush.

    I've read about not using jet dry on your glasses but what is the concern with using jet dry on bottles? The jet dry reduces head on the beer. I've never worried about head in the bottles.
     
  16. MaineMike

    MaineMike Initiate (0) Jan 22, 2011 Maine

    I dunk my bottles in starsan and empty them right before I fill them. Those starsan suds come right out the top of the bottle when I fill it with beer and I know everything is sanitized thoroughly.
     
  17. psnydez86

    psnydez86 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Pennsylvania

    I don't sanitize with my dish washer i just use it as a bottle tree... ( somewhere I can leave my bottles upside down to drain out as much star San as possible before bottling)
     
  18. joshodonn

    joshodonn Initiate (0) Jan 21, 2011 Florida

    I use a spray bottle of StarSan and shoot about 5 sprays into each bottle... I then rotate to coat all surface, dump, and fill er up. I put my 8 gallong brew kettle upside down on the counter above my dishwasher, put the bottling bucket on top of that, and open the dishwasher so that any drips/spillage land on the door... Makes clean-up a breeze!
     
  19. FatSean

    FatSean Initiate (0) Jul 4, 2006 Connecticut

    I use my bottling bucket and wand to fill each bottle with a bit of starsan...count to three! Then shake em up, pour out the starsan, and put on the bottling tree until ready to fill.
     
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