Bourbon County Barleywine

Why are you getting so riled up that I don't agree with your opinion?

It's not the same beer, but it's close enough the way the Bourbon County vintages are close enough despite different barrels, aging times, and recipes. Literally no one has responded to this... As uncomfortable as it is for several of you, I seem to have a point here.

They probably didn't call the new one King Henry to maintain Greg Hall's statement:

KING HENRY WILL NEVER BE MADE AGAIN*

 

Saying that they are the same is like claiming there is no difference between PvW and Rebel Yell, when in fact there is a BIG difference and not just in price. I'll be sure as shit to pick a Rare out of a bcs line up without a second guess as I'm sure likewise for the KH to the BCS barleywine. They will both have epic amazingness in common though I have no doubt. Oh and time spent in barrels means a bit too

 

I've never particularly understood why people are so quick to spend $50 on a bottle of Rare. I can't imagine a beer being that much better than standard BCBS and Pappy 23 is essentially the least desired of all the Van Winkle bourbons amongst aficionados. If they had used 20 year barrels, I might understand a little bit better, but whatevs.

As far as BCBBW is concerned, sign me the hell up.

 

See my first line in post #304.

 

If this helps, one of the brewers from Goose Island told me that this barleywine isn't the same recipe as King Henry. He said King Henry's base beer was undrinkable. That's why it was put into those barrels to see what happened, and that's why they wouldn't use the same recipe again.

 

It's a good thing for all of us that Laffler won't be reading this.

 

Not really sure what that means, but I just wanted to pass along what I was told first hand. Take it for what it is. I'm sure they all have differing opinions.

 

Wasn't it made once before as Prince Henry?

And if it was undrinkable, why would they gamble by putting it into 50 premium barrels?

 

The barrels had already been used for BCBS right? Again, I'm just saying what was told to me by one of the brewers. Believe it or not. I don't really care.

 

I'm not sure if you realize this, but AFAIK no one has objected to the claim that it will be similar to King Henry. What has been (rightfully) ridiculed is your claim that King Henry is being produced again. It's not, just as Rare BCBS isn't being produced every November.

You can keep defending the claim that KH and BCBBW will likely be similar, but no one is attacking that claim--you're just arguing against some straw man.

 

There was no need to elaborate.

And I called you a dick for your response, not "for my vague post"

 

Sounds like the usual stuff. People who have Rare and KH want to make sure that BCBBW is clearly known to be inferior. The people who don't have them want their trade hype will be somewhat curbed by BCBBW. It is the usual douchery that goes on here and is why I rarely trade or post anymore.

 

Literally no one has managed to explain why these beers are more dissimilar than any two Bourbon County vintages.

BCBW and KH are similar enough to call both King Henry. Therefore, it is being released again even if the name is not being used. Just as Abrasive was a slight tweak of 16 Grit. Very similar beer, so despite the name change, we can consider them the same.

I don't see what's so hard about this.

 

As someone who has a couple Henry's left, I hope it is very similar and I think it will be. But as long as it is a good beer, who really cares. I could give a damn what it does to the "value" of my KH as those were bought for my personal consumption.

 

Do not care.
All I care about is when it will be released and when I will be able to put this deliciousness in me.

Maybe they will shed some light at the 25th Anniversary. Y'all going?

 

Right? I mean, come on guys. He's repeated himself over half a dozen times! He must be right by now.

 

Very similar ≠ the same.

Sounds like you can consider them the same, but I think that most will actually wait until they've tried it before making a more educated analysis.

 

Give it up bro.

 

Ha! With so many views and no rebuttals to the Bourbon County analogy, I must be.

I'm not the only one repeating myself. The only difference is that I'm speaking uncomfortable truths.

I said they're "the same" to the degree that Bourbon County vintages are the same. Or Black Tuesday, or other beers... People will overlook substantial differences in recipe and still consider these beers "the same." Hell, Parabola just changed to Four Roses barrels this year, but in everyone's eyes it is still Parabola. Do barrels and recipe matter, or do they not?

But you're right, I should taste and see.

 

Let me know when you're done editing and I'll respond accordingly....