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Bourbon County Rare Value?

Discussion in 'Beer Trading Talk' started by JAramini, Jan 15, 2013.

  1. JAramini

    JAramini Jun 5, 2005 New York

    I saw the thread of someone asking if $100 was too much to pay for Rare and one of the comments indicated that it would be cheaper than trying to trade for it. I have a bottle and wonder if I should trade it and, if so, how I'd be able to do.

    I received two bottles as a Christmas gift when it was released, drank one, and have been hanging onto the other, debating if I should drink or trade.

    I don't trade much and don't care much about "big whales."

    My short list of beers I've never had that I'd like to try include Dark Lord, Darkness, and Zombie Dust. Wondering if I could turn my single whale into some smaller whales that would last me longer.

  2. crushedvol

    crushedvol Jan 29, 2008 Illinois

    I'd clear your inbox
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  3. rowingbrewer

    rowingbrewer May 28, 2010 Massachusetts
    Beer Trader

    my guess is you can EASILY get a bottle of dark lord, darkness, a sixer of zombie dust and some nice extras if you trade this. And people will sing your praises as the most generous trader

    EDIT: don't forget about extras on your side too, apparently they are required now
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  4. Hanzo

    Hanzo Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    You can pretty much get a mixture of a lot of things you want to try. Dark Lord, Darkness and Zombie Dust would be a piece of cake. Looking at your wants now, which is full of fairly easily obtained beers, I'd say you could destroy a good amount of your list with a Rare.
  5. JAramini

    JAramini Jun 5, 2005 New York

    I doubt this will torpedo the trade value, but I'll mention that when I had the first bottle I thought it was very nice, but not all that far behind the regular BCBS.

    Also, I'm all for big stouts, barrel-aged stouts, and good hoppy beers. Sours and wilds don't interest me (since those seem to be some of the biggest whales).
  6. JAramini

    JAramini Jun 5, 2005 New York

    Three messages in my inbox already - totally should've said I was "curious" or "asking for a friend."

    And I don't want to BS extort people or try to trade to the highest bidder - I've been thinking of trading it away for awhile and didn't want to try to ask too much or trade it away for too little.
  7. Hanzo

    Hanzo Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    You could say the bottle touched you in inappropriate ways, knocked your dog up and stole money out of your sock drawer and it wouldn't hurt its trade value.
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  8. crushedvol

    crushedvol Jan 29, 2008 Illinois

    Just increased the value in my mind
  9. Jnorton00

    Jnorton00 Apr 13, 2007 Massachusetts

    I'd trade a Dark Lord, Darkness ++. Shoot me a BM is you wanna try and work something out.
  10. rowingbrewer

    rowingbrewer May 28, 2010 Massachusetts
    Beer Trader

    or you could take it to a bottle share and try a boat load of beers rather than trading for a few individually
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  11. Johnnyramirez

    Johnnyramirez Nov 17, 2012 California

    Case of Pliny, Blind Pig, Black Tuesday, Hopsickle, KBS ++ locals.

    AND I'll pay for both of our shipping. BM me OP
  12. mayorQuimby

    mayorQuimby Jun 5, 2009 Indiana
    Subscriber Beer Trader

    You should not trade it for Zombie Dust. If you have any decent locals, that should be enough to land some fresh Zombie Dust. Rare is never coming out again, Zombie Dust is available almost all the time.
  13. dvelcich

    dvelcich Feb 6, 2008 Illinois

    What a shitty comment. :(
  14. trxxpaxxs

    trxxpaxxs Mar 5, 2010 New York
    Beer Trader

    Bring it to the next tasting.
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  15. Anonymous1

    Anonymous1 Mar 19, 2012 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    You could easily ask for 2xDarkness, 2xDark Lord, and a sixer of Zombie Dust, and your trade would be completed in an instant and you'd get multiple offers.
  16. rowingbrewer

    rowingbrewer May 28, 2010 Massachusetts
    Beer Trader

    sorry your computer does not detect sarcasm, and it was a reference to a recent thread where people when crazy becuase every one basically said no extas=bad trader. i disagree with extras being required
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  17. evilc

    evilc Jan 27, 2012 California

    Yeah - people here have tight panties, usually twisted. I understood your comment and laughed =)
  18. dvelcich

    dvelcich Feb 6, 2008 Illinois

    No, I got it. It was still a shitty thing to say and had nothing to do with this thread.

    I read through that whole thread, and the theme behind the pro-extras team was you're only a bad trader if you don't tell the guy you're not including extras. You don't believe in extras, fine. Just let the other guy know because, as cavedave discovered (http://beeradvocate.com/community/threads/extras-poll.32704/), 93.8% of traders always do.

    To not mention it and not send any extras is a DICK MOVE. (Don't worry Mordor, you'll get your money. ;))
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  19. rowingbrewer

    rowingbrewer May 28, 2010 Massachusetts
    Beer Trader

    All i got from reading it was entitlement. I usually mention that I will be sending extras, and don't complain to the people who have not (short list). If both senders neglect to mention one way or the other and one sends em and one does not well shame on them both for bad communication, not bad trading practices.
  20. Hugonaut13

    Hugonaut13 Nov 29, 2012 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    I'm price is right'n this. 102!
  21. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Mar 18, 2010 California

    You mean regular BCBS was better than Rare right? I would agree.
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  22. Anonymous1

    Anonymous1 Mar 19, 2012 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    I agree. Extras are supposed to be extras, hence the name. I'm sure that's the way things started out... but now they are definitely "required". For better or for worse.

    I've sent out extras in all of my trades except for when the box is full, and I've communicated that I wont be including them. That's just the standard now, and it's an easy enough courtesy to communicate.... but if it weren't for the entitlement, it shouldn't really be necessary.

    That being said, I don't get bent when someone doesn't reciprocate....because they're EXTRAS!
    Beerandraiderfan likes this.
  23. stxSS07

    stxSS07 Nov 23, 2010 Illinois

    We tried this already. All of you shut the fu#k up about extras and let this man auction his beer.

    cbeer88, black13, UNCCTDawg and 2 others like this.
  24. tut2528

    tut2528 Sep 26, 2008 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    sit back and just watch the trade forums for a couple of weeks. you will get a much better understanding of what you can get in return for your Rare.
  25. JAramini

    JAramini Jun 5, 2005 New York

    Thanks all - and if any of you who inboxed me are watching this - I may end up trading, I may not. There is a local tasting group I've been chatting with a bit, but I thought it was for hardcore traders/Capt Ahab protégés only, but it may not be, and I may share it there.

    Sorry to be the guy on Pawn Stars who hears everything the expert has to say and decides to keep his ivory bidet after all.

    Some very good trade offers out there that I really badly want to take, but I may do the tasting group, I may make a trade, but I did want to investigate the market.
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  26. Anonymous1

    Anonymous1 Mar 19, 2012 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    I agree communication is easy, and a common courtesy. Like I stated in my original post I always include extras or communicate that I wont be able to due to a full box.

    I'm just saying that if 93% of BA's get bent when they don't get extras in return, then that's entitlement.

    The point of an extra is to give and expect nothing in return. Unfortunately, extras are now the expectation when that the exact opposite of what they should be. That's all I'm saying.
    plumcrazyfx likes this.
  27. sliverX

    sliverX Oct 5, 2007 S. Georgia & S. Sandwich Isls.

    Don't let us intimidate you, we open everything from minnows to super bleached out whales, and stuff half of us don't even know existed.
    libbey and trxxpaxxs like this.
  28. ShogoKawada

    ShogoKawada May 31, 2009 Pennsylvania

    rare tasted better at launch than it does now.
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  29. SteelersX

    SteelersX Jan 30, 2011 New York
    Beer Trader

    So let me get this straight
    2008 bcbs is tasting amazing right now but Rare which is 2008 aged simply in a different barrel has dropped off significantly.
    BA math never adds up.
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  30. JAramini

    JAramini Jun 5, 2005 New York

    I do prefer the intense bourbon in fresh BCBS, and the Rare was mellower at launch. So, aged it may be too mellow in bourbon character for my tastes.
  31. Levitation

    Levitation Aug 7, 2009 California

  32. SteelersX

    SteelersX Jan 30, 2011 New York
    Beer Trader

    [quote="Levitation, post: 842527, member: 3577Rare quote]

    Nope. Not at all. I just trust my palate and Rare is still tasting amazing
    The variable you speak of is actually sour grapes and pure jealousy
  33. SteelersX

    SteelersX Jan 30, 2011 New York
    Beer Trader

    Rare was so bourbon packed when fresh and I originally thought it was impossible to get any more bourbon character into bourbon county without ruining it. Then I had Rare. Pow. I'm glad I still have a few
    $40 is pricey but they were worth it.
  34. Levitation

    Levitation Aug 7, 2009 California

    damn, and here i thought oxidation was important in the aging process.
  35. evilc

    evilc Jan 27, 2012 California

    Wouldnt Rare be 2009 BCBS? Was packaged in 2010.
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  36. SteelersX

    SteelersX Jan 30, 2011 New York
    Beer Trader

    I must take my hat off to your genius.
    Love how you state the obvious
    Too bad your reading comprehension skills fail you.
    You have way too much time on your hands.
    Oh well maybe I'll to crack an over the hill. Over OXIDIZED mess of a Rare.
    I'm sure its going to suck

    Ha ha
  37. evilc

    evilc Jan 27, 2012 California

    My Rare was bottled 11/19/2010. Bottle of '08 here bottled 10/16/08. So, we assume that batch was made and put into the barrel in February, 2008. You're saying Rare was in the barrel for 29 months? '09 bomber here with 10/9/09 for a best guess of being barreled in February, 2009. It was therefore conceivable to me that Rare spent 21 months in the barrel, from the '09 batch, vice 29 from the '08 batch. Instead of being an ass ( as usual ), realize it was a valid thought. I actually did the math which is why I asked.
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  38. Levitation

    Levitation Aug 7, 2009 California

    ironic, or simpleton? i didn't call it over oxidized.

    anyway, let's address one thing:

    so, despite the different aging process, they're identical?

    so, with the different aging process, they're different?

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  39. SteelersX

    SteelersX Jan 30, 2011 New York
    Beer Trader

    Shit . A three quoter.
    I lost.
    Now I have to drink
    You have become our favorite drinking game.
    Trolls respond every time
    I love it
  40. evilc

    evilc Jan 27, 2012 California

    I'm not familiar with poetry but I do know what Haiku is - 5 / 7 / 5 right? I am wondering what 2 / 5 / 11 / 7 / 3 is?
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