Brett - Other Than "Horse Blanket"

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  1. bramsdell

    bramsdell Aspirant (278) May 27, 2011 North Carolina

    Inspired by the thread on the flavors you have never picked up on, I'm making a thread on your own description of Brett. I do smell the "horse blanket" that some describe, but brett really doesn't smell/taste like the barnyard to me as much it does plastic. I'm talking soft, somewhat melted plastic. I really don't know how to say that in a good way, as I love brett beers, but any beer I've had with a real brett presence, this has always been the predominant sensation. Rayon Vert, Gift of the Magi, Saison Brett, Sofie, Brux, etc.

    How do you describe Brett?
     
  2. koopa

    koopa Poo-Bah (1,825) Apr 20, 2008 New Jersey
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    My usual brett descriptors include horse blanket, musty, funky, crawlspace, and urine soaked hay (in a good way).
     
  3. Thickfreakness

    Thickfreakness Initiate (0) Oct 2, 2010 New York

    Compost pile, funky, moldy, poop, manure.
     
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  4. DaveHack

    DaveHack Champion (811) Mar 28, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    musty basement
     
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  5. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Savant (970) Mar 17, 2009 Washington
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    Depends on the type of brett. Brett C can be a pineapple bomb. I did a 100% brett B beer that smelled like a forest floor and picked up some wild berry aroma about a year later.
     
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  6. hopsbreath

    hopsbreath Devotee (494) Aug 28, 2009 Florida

    This. Not only different Brett species but also wether or not it's the only yeast or if it's a secondary yeast determines what expression presents. 100% Brett is a totally different beast than a pale finished with Brett.
     
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  7. atxdelivery

    atxdelivery Initiate (0) Aug 28, 2010 Texas
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    I taste the toe jam of a 95 year old diabetic man. Horse Blanket always makes me laugh as a descriptor.
     
  8. koopa

    koopa Poo-Bah (1,825) Apr 20, 2008 New Jersey
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    Every day dozens of people in the world suffer from EMLS. EMLS, or Elderly Man Licker Syndrome, is a condition sometimes expressed by those who drink on the wild side of fermentation.......
     
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  9. atxdelivery

    atxdelivery Initiate (0) Aug 28, 2010 Texas
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    The only treatment I am aware of is a 500ML injection of Rogue Voodoo Doughnut Maple Bacon, clears it right up.
     
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  10. Husker_brewer

    Husker_brewer Initiate (0) Nov 23, 2012

    I had Matilda today and tasted Brett for the first time. I would say a musty flavor on the back of my tongue toward the end.
     
  11. ajthegreat

    ajthegreat Initiate (190) Nov 11, 2010 Vermont
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    I grew up on a farm... I'm betting 90% of the people using that have never smelled a horse blanket. Always makes me laugh as well.
     
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  12. H0rnedFr0gs

    H0rnedFr0gs Disciple (303) Mar 12, 2012 Texas
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    Non beer drinkers I introduce Brett beers to (my fault) often associate it with cat litter...again not it a bad way
     
  13. Blazer06

    Blazer06 Initiate (173) Jun 30, 2008 Florida
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    Odd reference but sometimes the aroma reminds me of the grass stains on my jeans when I was kid playing in the yard. I do enjoy brett claussenii, fruity and floral but still a little dirty.
     
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  14. Etan

    Etan Initiate (0) Jul 11, 2011 Wisconsin

    Depending on the strain, I pick up brett as gamey, horsey, pineapple, wet hay.
     
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  15. atxdelivery

    atxdelivery Initiate (0) Aug 28, 2010 Texas
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    I bet over 90% such a stupid descriptor by so many people who have never seen, smelled and especially tasted a horse blanket.
     
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  16. ArrogantB

    ArrogantB Poo-Bah (3,312) Jun 9, 2006 Colorado
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    I've got a merit badge in horsemanship, u mad cause I know what a horse blanket actually smells like? :sunglasses:
     
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  17. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Meyvn (1,389) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan

    Many of the wild beers do have a "horsey" smell to me. My Grandfather farmed with a pair of Belgian draft horses, and I thought all horses were that big when I was a little tyke. Might be more the smell of the tack room than just blankets.

    Pros use the term, but what does Tomme know? Brett strains described and scroll down for the article.
    http://www.whitelabs.com/beer/bacteria.html
     
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  18. Brunite

    Brunite Initiate (0) Sep 21, 2009 Illinois

    Nice. I was just about to post that exact link. In addition...I like your mention of a tack room. That is a pretty good descriptor. The smell of barn, sweaty leather, musty hay, decomposing organics, all come to mind.

    Speaking of Brett; the Matilda I am drinking while posting this also has some of those distinctive band-aid, plastic, wet balloon smells.
     
  19. wethorseblanket

    wethorseblanket Poo-Bah (2,634) Dec 12, 2008 California
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    Brett is always a good way. Just sayin.
     
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  20. Stinkypuss

    Stinkypuss Poo-Bah (4,018) Apr 7, 2008 Pennsylvania

    Brett is that little something that tastes off that let's you know it's expensive and rare, and you must teach your friends and your kids to like it and grow up to be Guezefasa.
     
  21. mintjellie

    mintjellie Defender (630) Oct 2, 2005 Ontario (Canada)

    Tack room, barn, hay, manure, plastic, damp soil.
     
  22. TNGabe

    TNGabe Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2012 Tennessee

    Manure? Really? You think brett smells like shit and you drink it?
     
  23. goodbetterbestbested

    goodbetterbestbested Initiate (0) May 10, 2012 California

    i encourage you to get a bottle of crooked stave WWB blue and tell me that's not the smell of straight horse shit

    good straight horse shit though
     
  24. TNGabe

    TNGabe Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2012 Tennessee

    If I could, I would. Can't quite pony up $300 and a trip to Colorado this year.

    I live in the middle of a cow field, so maybe I just can't smell manure anymore.
     
  25. goodbetterbestbested

    goodbetterbestbested Initiate (0) May 10, 2012 California

    it's not reserve society, it's been out for a while and shouldn't be hard to trade for. really weird interesting beer consider it if the opportunity ever arises :slight_smile:
     
  26. goodbetterbestbested

    goodbetterbestbested Initiate (0) May 10, 2012 California

    and that's blue, not blueberry (indigo)
     
  27. cavedave

    cavedave Poo-Bah (2,364) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    ISO: Beer that smells like straight horse shit FT: Walez bro'
     
  28. corey0212

    corey0212 Initiate (0) Oct 27, 2007 Connecticut

    That's it. I've got a long weekend, I'm gonna go see if I can find some horses and ask 'em if they'll let me check out their blankets. I really want to nail this shit down.
     
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  29. atxdelivery

    atxdelivery Initiate (0) Aug 28, 2010 Texas
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  30. wonderbread23

    wonderbread23 Initiate (0) Aug 4, 2009 New York

    Sounds like you are sensitive to certain phenolic compounds which brett can throw. Often described as burnt plastic, band-aid, rubber, etc.

    Depending on the beer and strain, I often find brett quite fruity.
     
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  31. BobZ

    BobZ Zealot (508) Jun 24, 2009 Massachusetts

    Always get a kick out of those who describe "horse blanket" as a "road apple" scent/flavor! Really? Seriously? :confused:

    "OMG this beer is awesome, it gives me the sensation that I'm tossing Mr. Ed's salad", wow, good for you!:wink:

    This subset of beer drinkers should not be allowed around any livestock EVER:grimacing: or pets for that matter! :slight_smile:
     
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  32. hopsputin

    hopsputin Meyvn (1,284) Apr 1, 2012 New Jersey

  33. kscaldef

    kscaldef Initiate (0) Jun 11, 2010 Oregon
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    Not a single reviewer of the beer seems to have picked up on this: http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/25191/83142/
     
  34. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Meyvn (1,389) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan

    Brett produces phenols.
    Some give the clove and smokey aromas.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4-ethylguaiacol
    4-ethyl phenol gives the barnyard and horsey aroma.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4-ethylphenol

    Ethyl Lactate gives the furity aroma.

    A compound called tetrahydropyridines gives a urine aroma (often termed mouse urine).

    You can look those up. Some of you will not be convinced though.

    If you are more interested read this book.
    http://www.amazon.com/Wild-Brews-Culture-Craftsmanship-Tradition/dp/0937381861
     
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  35. drgarage

    drgarage Initiate (0) Aug 19, 2008 California

    Generally speaking, it's more about the other senses than the aroma for me. It can be that funky smell, but I get it more in the taste and mouthfeel, specifically, really intense drying and a bit of spice.

    Bad brett is straight up rotting band-aids (see: Two Blind Myces from Dogfish).
     
  36. goodbetterbestbested

    goodbetterbestbested Initiate (0) May 10, 2012 California

    strange. i'm often amazed at what people write in their reviews, i think a good half of any given beer's reviews are just sort of bullshitted (bullshat?). there was no other way to describe this smell (maybe "forest floor" and "dirt" which people do say). my girlfriend and i both thought straight up horse manure. it also had big chunks of yeast to give that nice effect of drinking watered down horse shit.

    all subjective i guess but my girlfriend and i often differ on tastes and smells, but were in complete agreement on this one.
     
  37. davey101

    davey101 Meyvn (1,080) Apr 14, 2009 Connecticut
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    Pony quilt
     
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  38. OneBeertoRTA

    OneBeertoRTA Devotee (497) Jan 2, 2010 California
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    Brux did a lot of damage on my opinion of Brett.
     
  39. mintjellie

    mintjellie Defender (630) Oct 2, 2005 Ontario (Canada)

    I live on the edge of the city. Literally. I can walk 20 minutes north of my house and be surrounded by farm fields on all sides. In the spring, I can smell the manure on the fields when I walk out my front door, if the breeze is blowing from the north. It's not overpowering though, because of that short distance. If I were standing in the field, it would probably be unbearable. But when far enough away, when the smell is bearable and not overpowering, that aroma is actually very pleasant.
     
  40. Stormfield

    Stormfield Initiate (171) Feb 21, 2011 Massachusetts

    This. I'm with you. Except I think of cows instead of horses. In fact, whenever I am near a dairy farm, I say to my wife: "Smells like Brett, right?" To which she says, "yeah - gross."

    To me, Brett smells like...
    1) Cow pasture
    2) Dairy farm
    3) Cow manure
     
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