Brewery Updates in Minnesota (2020)

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  1. OS_Brews_and_Meads

    OS_Brews_and_Meads Initiate (0) Jan 13, 2020 Minnesota

    Just saw a Head Brewer position posted for Luce Line Brewing Co. Does anyone know anything about this company? Says Minneapolis 55441 and that it is a 2,000-barrel brewery.
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  2. Chaz

    Chaz Poo-Bah (2,151) Feb 3, 2002 Minnesota
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    They are “new” to the scene, I reckon:
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  3. RAH-RAH-Beer

    RAH-RAH-Beer Initiate (29) Jan 1, 2019 Minnesota

    Luce Line Brewing lists an address as 12901 16th Avenue North, Plymouth, Minnesota. This is just off Highway 55 and in fact is very near the Luce Line trail. If this comes to pass, this will be the first for Plymouth.
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  4. TimJohnsonMN

    TimJohnsonMN Initiate (25) Dec 24, 2009 Minnesota

    Are you sure they filtered it? You'd be surprised what gravity+time can do
  5. hopb4fg

    hopb4fg Initiate (0) Nov 8, 2016 Hawaii

    The owner / brewer also told me they filter it.

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  6. HawkEye19

    HawkEye19 Initiate (109) Jun 15, 2006 Minnesota

    It continues to aggravate me that this place cannot/will not improve their beers.
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  7. tonye

    tonye Initiate (32) Oct 28, 2009 Minnesota

    I doubt if they have much incentive to improve.

    Locals will continue to go there because there's no place else close. And there are always plenty of people (especially in the 'burbs) who drink craft beer because it's trendy, but don't have a clue what it should taste like. If you doubt that, let me just say "Lakes & Legends".
  8. pearceweb

    pearceweb Initiate (0) Nov 4, 2009 Minnesota

    The beer is pretty much terrible! I’ve had one or two beers that tasted better than bad home brew. Don’t bother telling them because they’ve got every excuse why “you” are wrong including beer judges and cicerones have told them they are on point. It’s BS, basically locals that don’t know good beer & soccer or softball parents from the sports complex. There’s no incentive to change.

    All they need is a Hoops or someone consulting to help them build recipes or consult but it’s clear this will be their Final Act... Hate saying this because I’d like them to succeed. But if you won’t even take feedback I’m not willing to go back with my hard earned money a 3rd time.
  9. MNAle

    MNAle Poo-Bah (2,008) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    Not limited to the 'burbs. Selection may be more limited, but chasing trendiness damn the taste is hardly limited to there.
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  10. Xanthophhyll

    Xanthophhyll Initiate (14) Sep 25, 2017 Minnesota

    Wow...reading some of those google reviews.... No samples and $7 pints of mediocre beers.... Yikes.
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  11. hopb4fg

    hopb4fg Initiate (0) Nov 8, 2016 Hawaii

    Yes, I would like them to succeed, too! The owner / brewer has been a homebrewer for 30 years and they seem not to understand their beer is not good at all. That is troublesome, especially when you take in the defensiveness. This is a "recipe" for a quick closing.
    I went onto their website and their West Coast IPA is 4.7%. Their Berliner is 6%. Their Imperial Stout has 14 IBU's. Should I continue....? Time to hire Hoops or a competent brewer with some chops. Sorry, but true.
  12. HawkEye19

    HawkEye19 Initiate (109) Jun 15, 2006 Minnesota

    They've been around for over a year now, and whenever I drive by in the afternoon/evening, the parking lot is pretty full. Location, and lots of people who (as pearceweb said) don't know better.

    So, I'll continue to be happy that Junction 70 is around the corner from my house.
  13. maximum12

    maximum12 Poo-Bah (4,858) Jan 21, 2008 Minnesota
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    Totally agree. Having lived both "in the city" & "in the suburbs" for long stretches of time each, I can tell you there are stupidities common to city dwellers & suburban dwellers alike. Anybody who says otherwise is deluded.

    That said, I've never even heard of this place, or if I have, I'd forgotten about it. Given the, ah, not glowing reviews, I think it's a place I can safely forget about again.
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  14. hopb4fg

    hopb4fg Initiate (0) Nov 8, 2016 Hawaii

    I guess 3rd Act Brewing doesn't distribute. They only sell growlers & crowlers.
    Production is about 400 bbls per year? Is that true? That's like 30 bbls / 60 kegs a month...
    There are eight 20 bbl tanks in this picture.......... I...don'

    #94 hopb4fg, Mar 5, 2020
    Last edited: Mar 5, 2020
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  15. HawkEye19

    HawkEye19 Initiate (109) Jun 15, 2006 Minnesota

    I guess when you have money to burn....
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  16. SudsSavant

    SudsSavant Aspirant (238) Jan 9, 2007 Minnesota

    They toss out the bad batches and are only keeping the good stuff around? Then again, maybe it's flipped...
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  17. BeerDrinkinGuy

    BeerDrinkinGuy Initiate (56) Nov 2, 2018 Minnesota

    Yep went there last fall and asked for a sample she replied they dont give samples when its busy I turned around to see nobody behind me.
  18. SipIt

    SipIt Initiate (176) Jul 18, 2013 Minnesota

    Lol, I don't even know how I'd react to that. I'd like to think I'd walk out the door.
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  19. HammsMeASAP

    HammsMeASAP Initiate (121) Jun 14, 2012 Minnesota

    Haven't been to 3rd Act and have wanting to try it out. Not so sure now.....
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  20. ZAP

    ZAP Poo-Bah (4,454) Dec 1, 2001 Minnesota

    I'm not wasting my time hitting 3rd Act.

    I did get a chance to stop by Falling Knife a couple times recently and was very impressed with what they are doing.
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  21. pearceweb

    pearceweb Initiate (0) Nov 4, 2009 Minnesota

    Curious how one doesn’t either perfect their beer after 30 years of Homebrewing or get feedback their beer needs work and do something about it. His friends aren’t doing him any favors by not telling him he needs a head brewer or consultant with chops to turn this ship around... It’s a bummer as I’d LOVE to hang out there, fantastic space and location. A couple of nice people behind the counter that I know through mutual friends. Crazy!
  22. ZAP

    ZAP Poo-Bah (4,454) Dec 1, 2001 Minnesota

    I agree with your thoughts. Why has no-one told them after 30 years the beer is no good. Or better yet how do they not know themselves. I could brew a batch and try it and objectively say this is bad. I need to talk to someone on how to do this right.

    Now this is not a knock all home brewers. Some do great stuff and transition nicely into the business but I've had more than my share of bad experiences with places whose brewer is a long time home brewer who really has no clue. To have that kind of guy running a place with that kind of value to it is absurd.
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  23. jstroner

    jstroner Initiate (0) May 1, 2010 Minnesota

    Naked Viking Brewing is in development in Glenwood. Plan is June 2020 opening.
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  24. islay

    islay Disciple (324) Jan 6, 2008 Minnesota

    I visited 3rd Act again recently, and I came away with the same impression I did the other couple of times I've been there: It's a roughly 30 or 40 percentile brewery. All of the beer is a little rough around the edges and some of it flawed (Guess what? That's pretty darn common.), but there are some enjoyable elements present in many of them. I'd say there are dozens of worse breweries in the Twin Cities area alone, and it wouldn't (quite) make my bottom 10 in the city if it were in Minneapolis proper. Call that damning with faint praise if you will, but I don't think it merits being singled out as outstandingly terrible.

    Let me give plugs to the many pretty good to very good breweries of the Twin Cities suburbs and exurbs, breweries that frankly are better than they need to be to satisfy craft beer cravings in their home towns. Okay, this isn't as impressive as the combined Minneapolis / St. Paul proper best breweries list would be, but there are some gems nonetheless:
    • Back Channel, Spring Park
    • Badger Hill, Shakopee
    • Barley John's, New Brighton
    • Birch's on the Lake, Long Lake
    • Bobtown, Roberts WI
    • Boom Island, Minnetonka
    • HammerHeart, Lino Lakes
    • Hop & Barrel, Hudson WI
    • Inver Grove, Inver Grove Heights
    • Iron Exchange, Maple Plain
    • Lift Bridge, Stillwater
    • Lupine, Delano
    • Lupulin, Big Lake
    • Montgomery, Montgomery
    • Oliphant, Somerset WI
    • Pig Ate My Pizza, Robbinsdale
    • Schram, Waconia and Chaska
    • Shakopee, Shakopee
    • Tilion, Cannon Falls
    • Uncommon Loon, Chisago City
    • Unmapped, Minnetonka
  25. mjryan

    mjryan Initiate (0) Dec 22, 2007 Minnesota

    In your opinion. All of what you wrote is your opinion, and your opinion alone. It’s awesome you like the beers, and breweries you like. Keep liking them. I like some of them as well. It’s awesome we live in a country where we can let other people know how we feel about the beer that other citizens make, and then post about it on the internet. Keep it up bud, you are doing it.
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  26. mjryan

    mjryan Initiate (0) Dec 22, 2007 Minnesota

    I noticed on social media that LynLake is now serving wine in their taproom. It’s my understanding that they are a taproom, as opposed to being a brewpub. Is this the case? I asked them about it, but I haven’t received a response.
  27. MoPar

    MoPar Initiate (93) Oct 28, 2006 Minnesota

    Some taprooms are now allowing you to bring you own wine and pay a corking fee. Maybe that's what they are doing.
  28. TrailsandAles

    TrailsandAles Initiate (23) Sep 10, 2014 Minnesota

    Their website lists the wine you can buy in the taproom.

    Maybe they got a special license to serve wine in their taproom?
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  29. gatornation

    gatornation Poo-Bah (6,921) Apr 18, 2007 Minnesota
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    They also built a small kitchen on premise,with rotating chefs and pop ups,would that not allow them somehow to serve wine @islay
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  30. islay

    islay Disciple (324) Jan 6, 2008 Minnesota

    I'm doing some research on this matter. I could speculate in a few different directions, but I'm going to see if I can track down the actual facts. Whatever the explanation, it's a very interesting development.
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  31. gatornation

    gatornation Poo-Bah (6,921) Apr 18, 2007 Minnesota
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    And if the wine sales are legit why no go with spirits like all the restaurants have done recently on Nicollet and Lyndale,it has defiantly helped foot traffic.
  32. pandera

    pandera Initiate (65) Jul 10, 2011 Minnesota

    Maybe they switched to a brewpub license?
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  33. Chaz

    Chaz Poo-Bah (2,151) Feb 3, 2002 Minnesota
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    Could be they have a “catering license”, or one which allows outside vendors to bring in beverage alcohol. Wasn’t a brewery in Rochester doing something similar at one point some years back?
  34. HammsMeASAP

    HammsMeASAP Initiate (121) Jun 14, 2012 Minnesota

    Doesn't Forager have a "catering license"? They'll have beers at Ansari's in Eagan occasionally.
  35. BeerDrinkinGuy

    BeerDrinkinGuy Initiate (56) Nov 2, 2018 Minnesota

    It was kind of like that scene in Falling Down where the cop tells Micheal Douglas to get back in his car because its dangerous while its dead stop on the road.
  36. JakeJohnson

    JakeJohnson Initiate (155) Jan 30, 2015 Minnesota

    I don’t think they have any plans for a physical location, but Amanogawa Brewing is contract brewing at The Lab. They had planned to distribute kegs, but the shutdowns happened. They only have a hazy IPA. I’m curious if more homebrewers will take advantage of The Lab in the future.
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  37. AmanogawaBrewCo

    AmanogawaBrewCo Initiate (0) Apr 5, 2020

    Jake - appreciate the mention! Exactly, our kegs were about to go on at bars in Minneapolis and St. Paul after so much planning when all of this went down. We are doing our best with Kiwami IPA Crowlers via The Lab for now. My co-founder and I are both physicians, so the current situation is difficult on multiple fronts. We have a stout, double IPA and imperial stout all in the works to complete our planned core lineup and basis for future iterations. A physical location is definitely not out of the question down the line. However, with somewhere on the order of 8,000 craft breweries now, the contract brewing model allows us to purely focus on our foundation of commercial recipe perfection and brand development for the time being, in an otherwise extremely tight, financially precarious market. The Lab has been instrumental in providing us homebrewers with a critical stepping stone. I would STRONGLY recommend working with them to any homebrewer looking to take the next steps. They are absolutely wonderful people, extremely capable and patient involving you in every step of the process. We'd be more than happy to chat further with anyone regarding our experience.
  38. Chaz

    Chaz Poo-Bah (2,151) Feb 3, 2002 Minnesota
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  39. Crazytrain83

    Crazytrain83 Initiate (51) Feb 19, 2017 Minnesota

    I'm sure I would love ALL of the new beers they would produce with this additional space, but I sure would miss the old Starkeller. I think it's one of the cooler looking breweries. I love how it looks like a generic industrial complex on the outside, then when you step inside it's like a time portal.
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  40. Grave252

    Grave252 Initiate (63) Mar 12, 2017 Minnesota

    Agreed. My wife and I have been to 150 breweries around the US and I can’t think of another that is so unassuming on the outside, yet so beautiful on the inside. It’s unfortunate it’s such a haul from the city, because it’s one of the cooler breweries in the state, and certainly has some of the finest beer. I wish more people could experience it.
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