Brewery's unethical behavior in Chicago?

Discussion in 'Great Lakes' started by Flyway, Feb 1, 2013.

  1. Flyway

    Flyway Oct 22, 2012 Wisconsin

  2. MarcatGSB

    MarcatGSB Jan 8, 2011 Michigan

    OMG, really? I read that tweet...Didn't think Beerpulse was, umm,...so desperate for news?
     
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  3. Flyway

    Flyway Oct 22, 2012 Wisconsin

    Not sure I follow. I am assuming you are taking it as completely unsubstantiated twitter garbage (which is probably the correct assumption)?
     
  4. Bay01

    Bay01 Nov 19, 2008 Illinois

    Hold the phone; unethical business practices? In Chicago!? Since he specifies a larger brewery, I've gotta assume he's talking about Lagunitas or Goose with the latter being more likely.
     
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  5. tinypyramids

    tinypyramids Jul 19, 2012 Illinois

    holy shit, you mean the most corrupt city in the most corrupt state in the country has unethical business practices? shock! awe!

    dunno if he would consider goose to be craft. maybe he means deschutes?
     
  6. Vav

    Vav Jul 27, 2008 Illinois

    Hey guys, i'm now selling my BA posts & Tweets, FYI. So if you'd like to see the @beeradam account to respond to Greg's tweet, or the Vav account advertise your son's/daughter's birthday, BM a reasonable monetary offer.
     
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  7. MarcatGSB

    MarcatGSB Jan 8, 2011 Michigan

    and that tweet was followed by someone (BeerPulse I think) asking him to call out who it was, and the response was something like "I don't call out brewers, I call out practices"...blah blah.
    I'm not making judgment at this point, but this is coming from the same guy that says German brewers are boring, and he's ready to change the culture over there. Come on Greg. If I had a dollar for everytime I saw a 6 month old Ruination on the shelf...
     
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  8. MarcatGSB

    MarcatGSB Jan 8, 2011 Michigan

    YES, FUCK YES. Thank you.
     
  9. mecummins

    mecummins Nov 16, 2012 Illinois

    You know, there's a brewery bus tour that's on my FB feed and they've been posting the same sort of cryptic junk for a few days now. Say what you mean or don't mention anything. We're not in high school.
     
  10. kzoobrew

    kzoobrew May 8, 2006 Michigan

    The pay for play culture in Chicago has been known for a long time. Greg and Stone have always been a vocal opponent of this. If you have paid attention this is nothing new from Greg and he is not the only brewery to make similar comments. Deb Carey has made the comment that brewers call Chicago a "whore's market".
     
  11. Lansman

    Lansman Mar 19, 2011 Missouri
    Beer Trader

    If this is in reference to what I think it is, anyone who knows what's going on in the current distributor environment in Chicago knows the brewery being referenced.
     
  12. MarcatGSB

    MarcatGSB Jan 8, 2011 Michigan

    I must have missed the pictures of Greg beaten and bloodied with an apple tied in his mouth...
     
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  13. Etan

    Etan Jul 11, 2011 Wisconsin

    What's the point of Tweeting about it if you're not going to give details. As it is now, it's just a vague, substanceless accusation of something or other against nobody in particular...
     
  14. mbockstruck30

    mbockstruck30 Dec 31, 2010 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    doesn't that pretty much sum up 90% of social media these days?
     
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  15. leedorham

    leedorham Apr 27, 2006 Washington

    Don't quote me on this but I think there has been bad blood between Stone and Lagunitas in the past.

    Edit: Still would like to hear some details though.
     
  16. MarcatGSB

    MarcatGSB Jan 8, 2011 Michigan

    Long haired hippy.
     
  17. ChefBergo

    ChefBergo Nov 9, 2011 Illinois

    I wouldn't think Goose because they are already part of AB-Inbev and as such have a decent distribution right? I'm not surprised by corrupt business practices at all...it is Chicago.
     
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  18. mbockstruck30

    mbockstruck30 Dec 31, 2010 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    C'mon people, isn't the big news here that AB is trying to buy out Grupo Modelo? If the price of Corona Light goes up...wait, I'll just stop there...
     
  19. evilc

    evilc Jan 27, 2012 California

    Why did Greg grow a craft beard?

    Anyways - wonder what he is accusing Goose of doing.
     
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  20. kzoobrew

    kzoobrew May 8, 2006 Michigan

    I think people are really overreacting to Greg's comments. This is nothing new. For some perspective, here is a portion of an article with the quote from Deb Carey I referenced before. No one is going to give Deb much of a hard time for her comments, they are not all that different from Gregs.

    http://www.chicagobusiness.com/arti...hicago-beer-market-crains-investigation-finds
     
  21. Bay01

    Bay01 Nov 19, 2008 Illinois

    I think the difference is that Deb was implying BMC were driving the grafting/kickbacks, which we all assume but Greg is accusing a craft brewer which some may not assume.
     
  22. evilc

    evilc Jan 27, 2012 California

    He said he calls out practices, not brewers. lol
     
  23. MarcatGSB

    MarcatGSB Jan 8, 2011 Michigan

    Does anyone know details on the DFH v. Glunz lawsuit? I know New Holland was on there as well, but was DFH not being repped like they thought because of this sort of thing? I'm interested to dig more into it.
    http://www.guysdrinkingbeer.com/dogfish-head-v-glunz-the-battle-over-reasonable-compensation/
    There is a good look at the lawsuit, with the entire legal document available...
    From what I have heard from distributors, 10 times the annual profit is the going rate for distro rights.
     
  24. otrejo

    otrejo Mar 8, 2011 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    If he doesn't name names, he can't be sued. And if any of his followers are associated with the brewery in question, they probably got the message.
     
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  25. Brunite

    Brunite Sep 21, 2009 Illinois


    Speak for yourself! Er...opps. My cover is blown:oops:.


    Kidding aside....things ARE getting better in Chicago. Al Capone...IS dead. One of our 2 imprisoned Governors was released to home confinement yesterday. We have the Prez as our favorite son and his bud is mayor. We are STILL the land of Lincoln. Lagunitas is coming. We can still cross behind the cheddar-curtain to get our New Glarus. The Hawks are 6-0-1. Derrick Rose is closer to returning than not. Da Bears can maybe draft some O-Linemen this year. The Cubs are rebuilding. And most importantly.....BCBS was available like never before across this town. So what's up with the vague tweet stuff?
     
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  26. Brunite

    Brunite Sep 21, 2009 Illinois

    Just a guess here...but, perhaps getting ready to do a beard-yeast brew if the stuff Rogue is going to put out takes off?
     
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  27. MarcatGSB

    MarcatGSB Jan 8, 2011 Michigan

    How do you tell the difference between a hipster beard and a lazy man I need to grow this for warmth beard?
     
  28. Mattmc1973

    Mattmc1973 Jun 4, 2008 Michigan
    Beer Trader

    Maybe this is just paranoia which would fall in line with him looking more and more like the Unibomber all the time.
     
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  29. yeahnatenelson

    yeahnatenelson Feb 8, 2010 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    WHOA! Dude's that serious?!?! This shit just got scandalous, y'all...
     
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  30. sacrelicio

    sacrelicio Feb 15, 2005 Minnesota

    awe cmon, tell us!
     
  31. robboyd

    robboyd Aug 7, 2011 Indiana

    What's up with the tip toe? Out with it if you know the reference. I feel that many in this thread are "in the know" of the distribution environment yet I haven't seen any evidence of a particular brewery being the one in question.
     
  32. Brunite

    Brunite Sep 21, 2009 Illinois

    My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with this girl who knows what is going on in the current distributor environment. I guess it's pretty serious.
     
  33. nachos

    nachos Jun 4, 2012 Minnesota
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    Word on the street is, all of the tattoos on Three Floyds employees are fake.
     
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  34. robboyd

    robboyd Aug 7, 2011 Indiana

    Just stopping by to say that I miss Trey and it will take me weeks to get accustomed to Chuck.
     
  35. MarkIntihar

    MarkIntihar Mar 17, 2010 Michigan

    Here I always figured Pasta was your first, last, and only lover...
     
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  36. danimalarkey

    danimalarkey Mar 3, 2008 Illinois

    If we're talking larger craft brewers in Chicago, there are really only two that come to mind: Goose Island and Two Brothers. I suspect that Greg Koch would not really consider Goose a craft brewer anymore, so that leaves Two Brothers. Which... doesn't make much sense to me. I know Windy City Distribution is in flux right now -- is Stone getting passed off to another distributor, one that Greg doesn't like? And so he's conflating the distributor and the brewery? If I recall, Stone took so long to enter the Chicago market because they didn't want to work with any of the other distributors.

    But even as Two Brothers has kind of slid into "eh, they're not bad", I would not have expected to them to get all unethical. Where's The Question when we need him?!
     
  37. MarcatGSB

    MarcatGSB Jan 8, 2011 Michigan

    The people in the know aren't going to come on BA and give it up. Respect.
     
  38. Vav

    Vav Jul 27, 2008 Illinois

    Anyone else notice how music sucks these days? It's just guys with beards in sweaters and girls in 60's dresses with acoustic instruments & friends that yell "Hey" from across a poorly mic'd room for backing vocals.
     
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  39. PDZ

    PDZ Jun 26, 2012 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    that sounds pretty unique, who are you referring to?\

    also, I should clip my nails
     
  40. mecummins

    mecummins Nov 16, 2012 Illinois

    So no Lumineers concert for you anytime soon, huh?

    Ho, hey!
     
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