Can one tell which AB brewery a given beer was bottled at?

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  1. lordofthemark

    lordofthemark Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2015 Virginia

    I do prefer, all other things being equal, to drink local for environmental reasons. I really like the way I can tell which Sierra Nevada beers are from NC and which from Chico. I have not rated Bud, Bud Lite, etc, and do intend to give them a chance. We have an AB brewery in Virginia, near Williamsburg, but I am not sure all Bud in NoVa is sourced from there.
     
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  2. Scott17Taylor

    Scott17Taylor Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2013 Iowa
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    I don't know how to tell, but you'd think AB would want to cut shipping costs as low as possible and that would mean using the closest brewery.
     
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    dcotom Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,125) Aug 4, 2014 Iowa
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  4. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,133) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    AB and MillerCoors codes for the actual brewery. :

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    For AB, it's the first letter after the numerical bottling date.

    For MC it's the second and third digit in the second line of the code (first line is the pull date), after a letter representing the day of the week (A=Monday). Also works for Pabst products brewed at MC breweries.
     
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  5. lordofthemark

    lordofthemark Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2015 Virginia

    Thank you, Jess
     
  6. bsend

    bsend Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2009 Massachusetts

    How can you tell when a Sierra Nevada beer is made in CA or NC? Drinking a Nooner Pilsner right now.
     
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    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,133) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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  8. tbaker397

    tbaker397 Initiate (0) Nov 9, 2013 West Virginia

    Budweiser tap handles sometimes have where it was brewed at on the handle. Good bet your bottles come from same place
     
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    Greywulfken Grand Pooh-Bah (5,803) Aug 25, 2010 New York
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  10. Stignacious

    Stignacious Pooh-Bah (1,866) Aug 24, 2011 New York
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    I just checked the Torpedo in my fridge out of curiosity; being in NY, I would have expected them to be from Mills River, but they were actually from Chico. @sierranevadabill, what dictates which beers are brewed where?
     
  11. tmbgnicu

    tmbgnicu Maven (1,280) Mar 15, 2014 Pennsylvania
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    This will come in handy the next time I drink 11 budweisers and need someone to blame my hangover on! Up yours, Trenton!
     
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  12. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    I still haven't seen any Sierra Nevada brew from Mills River in NJ, have you?
     
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  14. lordofthemark

    lordofthemark Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2015 Virginia

    I think two of the last three SN beers I have had were from Mill River.
     
  15. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,133) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    I think I have - but, off hand, can't remember specifically. Gotta say that down here in the Shore Point and Hub City SN distro territories, I often don't get past the bottled on date to read the brewery code since the beer is often too old for my money. Sierranevadabill discussed the situation in a previous post.*

    Only just found more [Chico] Nooner 12 pks that weren't canned at the end of December a few weeks ago.

    EDIT- (which I now noticed you "Liked"...but others might want to read it :wink:).

    Yeah, a retailer friend of mine has noted that NJ's been getting some packages of AB's flagship brands from Baldwinsville for quite a while.

    Still surprised at ending bottling in Newark (AB's second oldest brewery and their first outside of St. Louis) - when I first heard "shutting down a bottling line" I figured it was some small line - 7 oz. or quarts, or something - not their only bottling line. There was a lot of speculation about the closing of a brewery to eliminate some excess capacity after InBev took over but it was usually around their smallest, in NH. But, apparently, NH is more modern and flexible. And the Newark site's real estate value is probably a consideration, being across Rt. 1 from Newark Airport.
     
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  16. Homers_Beer_Odyssey

    Homers_Beer_Odyssey Initiate (0) Jun 17, 2014 New York

    Like asking what hillside your Gallo was grown on.
     
  17. lordofthemark

    lordofthemark Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2015 Virginia

    Ending bottling at Newark is one thing. Isn't most Bud, Bud lite, etc sold in cans? To close the entire brewery and sell the real estate would be huge news. And would remove a lot of the excess capacity hanging over the entire industry, I guess.

    Interesting that outfits like brew hub and beltway are building new contract brewing capacity, even while owners of legacy breweries like City, Matt, etc have spare capacity. Though I understand it is a different business model .
     
  18. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    The brewery in Newark has the capacity to brew 10,000,000 barrels a year. They don't brew that much now but it still must be brewing 6 or 7,000,000 barrels.
     
  19. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,133) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    The US industry average is around 53% of all beer is canned - it peaked at 60% in the early 90's and had been going steadily down (48% in 2003/4) until the canning boom and it's been up slightly the last few years. Bottles account for 37% with the remaining 10% kegged. Given AB's ~50% of the market, I'd expect they'd be pretty close to the industry average.
    Oh, for a day or so. Both Miller and Coors closed/sold breweries (Fulton, NY, Tumwater, WA, Memphis, TN) in the recent past few decades and there wasn't much of a ripple outside local stories about job loss. BUT, I didn't say AB was closing Newark - only that it wasn't really a good sign, and non-brewing aspects like the value of the real estate are very real considerations in such cases.

    AB's website for "Brewing Operations" (since redesigned with a much less informative list of brewery facts) in 2011 put Newark's capacity at 7.5m bbl/yr - making it the third smallest (after Merrimack, NH and Fairfield, CA). Today the "Fact Sheet" for Newark lists only the number of truckloads shipped out a day - 90. Merrimack, with a 2011 capacity of 3.5m bbl/yr shipments is listed at 100 trucks/day and upstate NY's Baldwinsville (2011 = 7.6m bbl., so then essentially the same size as Newark) is shipping twice as many truckloads as Newark - 180.

    Also, the last new (acquired) product Newark got appears to have been Rolling Rock (a beer that is probably predominantly bottled rather than canned) while NY and NH are brewing Bass Ale and the Goose Island & Blue Point brands (respectively). I don't think Newark is set up for top fermentation.
     
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  20. lordofthemark

    lordofthemark Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2015 Virginia

    Interesting, the different fates of those three closed breweries. Memphis is part of large scale contract brewer City. Fulton is used by Sunoco to make ethanol. Tumwater has a proposal for conversion to a complex of brewpubs, restaurants, and smaller scale contract brewing, IIUC.
     
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