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Ontario Cantillon Zwanze Day - Toronto, Mtl, Vancouver

Discussion in 'Canada' started by atomeyes, Jul 12, 2013.

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  1. kjyost

    kjyost May 4, 2008 Manitoba (Canada)

    Holy hell, that's usurious. I have been to Volo once and didn't have a good experience. This just helps me cement my opinion...
  2. liamt07

    liamt07 Jul 26, 2009 Ontario (Canada)
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    Didn't mean to indicate that that would be what they are charging, however I do expect them to squeeze every penny out of any patron who has intentions of attending this event.
  3. atomeyes

    atomeyes Jul 13, 2011 Ontario (Canada)
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    LOL jump to opinions much?? unless your experience was that awful, i'd give them a second chance. or don't. leaves more great beer and beer events for the rest of us.

    not sure where you get that from. of course, they are running a Yonge St bar with Yonge St/Toronto rent and they have the right to make money. and they've been to Belgium a # of times to build a relationship with Cantillon so that Cantillon would forgive and forget the LCBO's errors in days long gone. so consider spending money for Zwanze Day to be a thank you for the opportunity to drink Cantillon in Toronto. yes, at $45-50/bottle...which cost $150/sku to lab test and a ridiculous amount of $$ per palate to ship overseas.

    from what i've heard, Zwanze Day details will be released after the Bellwoods tap takeover. between the Bellwoods event and Cask Days tickets, the Moranas have likely been a wee bit busy. i'd cut them some slack.
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  4. liamt07

    liamt07 Jul 26, 2009 Ontario (Canada)
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    From being at every notable Volo run/hosted event in the past ~4 years. I'm not saying I won't pay what they're going to ask us to pay, I'm just saying I highly anticipate paying a good chunk of change to take part.
  5. bylerteck

    bylerteck May 17, 2009 Ontario (Canada)
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    Details on Montreal seem a bit slim. I'm assuming no tickets, raffles, other BS? Is it best to just show up early?
  6. atomeyes

    atomeyes Jul 13, 2011 Ontario (Canada)
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    how much were tickets to that shitty beer event that was 3 weeks ago? more than a Volo event, methinks.

    i understand pushback on the Bellwoods event at Volo. not sure if the original release was a typo or not, but man, that really crossed the line dollar-wise.

    people are going to line up for Zwanze Day. i am sure Volo will put other things on tap to make it an amazing event. supply and demand. make $$ when the hay's rolling, right?
  7. kjyost

    kjyost May 4, 2008 Manitoba (Canada)

    I was with three people who all said thu wouldnt go back, it was bad. I get into Toronto every 4 or 5 years for a couple of days. I don't plan on spending time were I feel like I'm being abused for my cash. And yes, as presented, a $50 charge for admission and a 4 oz pour is ridiculous.
  8. liamt07

    liamt07 Jul 26, 2009 Ontario (Canada)
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    Not sure what beer event you're referencing.

    Bellwoods event is going to be hella pricey - entry + $5-7.50 for a half (!!!) pint ($10 pints on the cheap end??) - thank god I backed out on that one.

    People will line up, without a doubt. I just hope we won't be gouged.

    I was kidding about the cost and pricing. Exaggerating, but probably something similarly ridiculous.
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  9. atomeyes

    atomeyes Jul 13, 2011 Ontario (Canada)
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    you're 100% making stuff up. where are you getting this info from??
  10. Luk13

    Luk13 May 25, 2009 Quebec (Canada)

    FWIW, Zwanze 2011 + DDC anniversary: you had to get in line at 14h30-15h to secure a sample and the bar opened at 15h (not everybody were getting Zwanze, lots of people were going for the anniversary).

    Zwanze 2012 (no anniversary because delayed in november): Opened ad 13h and you were fine getting there at 15h+

    There will be an anniversary event also this year, so it should be similar to 2011. But it is a 30L keg instead of 20L for the last two years, so there should be enough for everyone.
  11. Lurkaholic

    Lurkaholic Jun 14, 2013 British Columbia (Canada)
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    Fairly sure Vancouver's getting a 20L keg, I'd imagine you guys will too. Good luck!
  12. Luk13

    Luk13 May 25, 2009 Quebec (Canada)

    Well, it really looks like it will be a 30L keg. I hope you guys can get a bigger keg too.

    As per DDC's Facebook page :

    "On September 14th, our Montreal brewpub will celebrate it's 15th anniversary. And it's also when the Cantillon Zwanze Day is happening this year.

    The celebrations will begin at 3:00 PM with around 28 beers on draft, including some guest beers. The 2013 Zwanze will also be served starting at 3:00 (this year, we have a 30 liter keg!)

    Welcome all! "
  13. kjyost

    kjyost May 4, 2008 Manitoba (Canada)

    That's right, I make up how often I go to Toronto and what my experiences have been like. The info I got was from when I read liamt07's post (on page 1) and assumed it was factual. He has since clarified that he was joking.
  14. bylerteck

    bylerteck May 17, 2009 Ontario (Canada)
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    So it seems like it doesn't get too crazy then. Would it be safe to show up when they open or is there a line?
  15. atomeyes

    atomeyes Jul 13, 2011 Ontario (Canada)
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    show up 1-3 hrs before opening if you want a beer. there was a big line last year.
  16. Luk13

    Luk13 May 25, 2009 Quebec (Canada)

    I wouldn't show up when they open as it seems risky, events like this tends to be more popular every year.

    There was no line last year when it opened at 13pm (about 30 people by 14h) but there was a line outside at 15pm, I don't think nobody who arrived close to 15pm got shut out (or very few) last year, but there will be more people this year (like 2011), so showing up a little early would be a wise move.
  17. KeKeKumba

    KeKeKumba May 5, 2011 Ontario (Canada)

  18. liamt07

    liamt07 Jul 26, 2009 Ontario (Canada)
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    Volo taplist for anyone who is curious. Looks great Volo, and good job keeping the price of admission down. Lets Hope the pours are affordable!
    • Cantillon Zwanze 2013 (Abbaye de Cureghem)
    • Cantillon Gueuze (100% Lambic Gueuze)
    • House Ales Wild Style (English Mild w/ Brett)
    • House Ales Belgian Porter (Belgian Porter w/ Brett)
    • House Ales Shikki Mikki (Sour Berliner Weiss)
    • House Ales Goldenrod (English Golden Aged In Spirit Tree barrel w/ Brett)
    • House Ales 25th Anniversary Ale (Barleywine Aged In 4 Roses Barrel)
    • Le Trou Du Diable Oude Blanche (Sour Wheat)
    • Dieu Du Ciel! Derniere Volonte (Belgian IPA Pinot Noire Barrel Aged)
    • Dieu Du Ciel! Solstice D'Ete (Sour Raspberry Wheat)
    • Les Trois Mousquetaires Gose (German Sour Wheat)
    • Hopfenstark Epilogue (Berliner Weisse With Raspberry)
    • Hopfenstark Saison Station 16 (Aged)
    • Dunham KeKriek (Sour Cherry Ale)
    • Dunham Raspberry Saison (Aged In Zinfandel Barrels)
    • Beau's Greener Futures Strong Patrick Sour
    • Bellwoods X Evil Twin No Sleep Till Brooklyn (Sour Stout)
    • Amsterdam Order and Chaos - (Wit aged in a freshly emptied Biodynamic Chardonnay barrel)
    • Amsterdam DeWallen - (Raspberry Sour Aged In Pinot Noir Barrels)
    • Amsterdam Domestic Disturbance - (100% Brett Brux Golden Ale Aged On Wine Skins. Collaboration with Erica Graholm)
    • Sawdust City Dawson's Kreik (Alt Aged In Sour Wine Barrels On Tart Cherries)
    • Sawdust City The Princess & Girlpants Meet the ODB (Belgian Golden Aged in Chardonnay & Gamay barrels)
    • Great Lakes Fangboner (Brett IPA)
    • Great Lakes Deliverance On Brett (American Farmhouse)
    • Great Lakes Cryptic Cherry (Barrel Aged Double With Cherries)
    • Nickelbrook New World ( Belgian Pale Ale Brux Aged In Pinot Grigio Barrels)
    • Nickelbrook New World: Roselare
    • Nickelbrook Le Payson: Lambicus Saison
    • Indie Ale House Roll In The Hay (Belgian Ale Chardonnay Barrel Aged With Brett.)
    • Indie ale House Spadina Monkey (Barrel Aged Sour Ale)
    • Indie Ale House Sour Abbey (Pumpin Ale Aged 12 Months In Champagne Barrel With Brett.)
    • West Avenue Cider 'Cherry Beach'. Pinot barrel aged Montmorency cherry & Lacto cider.
    • Black Oak Selfish Lover (Imperial Saison With Brett)
  19. JonnyBeers

    JonnyBeers Oct 24, 2012 British Columbia (Canada)
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    So $15 for a 5 oz. pour in TO, or FREE in Vancouver for 10oz+
  20. atomeyes

    atomeyes Jul 13, 2011 Ontario (Canada)
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    first, Vancouver people had to go to another event in order to have a 25% chance in winning a ticket. so they spent money on 2 events versus paying admission for one event.
    second, torontonians get a pretty sweet glass with it. beer glasses are usually $5-10.
    third: the 10 ounce Vancouver pour is idiocy. 120 tickets to get into a toronto event that sold out in minutes, but still gives lots of people access, versus the Vancouver event being an elitist event where fewer people get to drink more.

    i think the the Vancouver event was done in poor taste and those who have been to Funk Night in the past know that the Toronto event is going to be killer. 2 killer events in 1 night with 1 price of admission and a glass? hit it up. can't wait to see which idiots sell their glass on ebay for a stupid amount of money.
  21. Rutager

    Rutager Oct 18, 2010 British Columbia (Canada)
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    One in four chances with $10 lottery tickets comes to $40 for each 10oz pour. You guys really need to stop calling it free.

    Plus look at that list in TO!! I'd pay the $15 just to get access to that list (aside form the Zwanze beer). The only beer that made the lottery night in Vancouver an "event" was BoP.
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  22. papat444

    papat444 Dec 28, 2006 Quebec (Canada)
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    In typical DDC fashion, the tap list will be revealed the week of ;)
  23. bylerteck

    bylerteck May 17, 2009 Ontario (Canada)
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    DDC Taplist from their fb page
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  24. Lurkaholic

    Lurkaholic Jun 14, 2013 British Columbia (Canada)
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    Daaaaaamn... what a list.

    Alibi has Cantillon Geuze and Zwanze, but that's all they've mentioned. I think they broke out the interesting sours at the raffle.
  25. Mississipping

    Mississipping Mar 16, 2010 North Carolina
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    Hello from down south! I'm interested in getting my hands on one of the Bar Volo Zwanze Day 2013 glasses and wanted to see if anyone in the Toronto area might be willing to work something out for theirs. I'd like to do glassware for glassware, considering shipping charges, and have an extensive list in my profile. If anyone is able to snag an extra, I'd be happy to PayPal charges + shipping + , if you'd prefer to go that route. If anyone is heading that way and would be willing to let theirs go, please let me know. I'm sure we can work something out.

    Thanks, and I hope you all have a blast this weekend!
  26. ricochet173

    ricochet173 Jul 6, 2011 Quebec (Canada)
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    I will be there! This is going to be awesome... so excited to try their authentic rootbeer!
  27. Luk13

    Luk13 May 25, 2009 Quebec (Canada)

    Yep nice stuff, first time I'll try a craft root beer from Québec.

    Any words whether any canadian venue will be getting Iris Grand Cru? The description makes it sound even better than the actual Zwanze.
  28. bylerteck

    bylerteck May 17, 2009 Ontario (Canada)
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    The Cantillon fb page post leads me to believe the Grand Cru will only be in bottles. As far as i can tell, only tap lists have been announced. So there's still hope.
  29. hoser

    hoser Feb 17, 2003 Alberta (Canada)

    Had that rootbeer in 2006 when we there it was great, enjoy.
  30. Lurkaholic

    Lurkaholic Jun 14, 2013 British Columbia (Canada)
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    Look what Erzbierschof in Switzerland got (courtesy of /r/beerporn)...


    Fingers crossed for some surprises on the day!
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  31. ricochet173

    ricochet173 Jul 6, 2011 Quebec (Canada)
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    To those going to the DDC event in Montreal tomorrow: have fun! See you there! :D
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  32. papat444

    papat444 Dec 28, 2006 Quebec (Canada)
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    Rain or shine, i should be @ DDC :D
  33. liamt07

    liamt07 Jul 26, 2009 Ontario (Canada)
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    The day is upon us.

    T-minus 7 hours til I have this is my gullet.
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  34. oldp0rt

    oldp0rt Feb 24, 2011 Quebec (Canada)

    Me too!

    Happy Zwanze day to all wherever you end up going
  35. papat444

    papat444 Dec 28, 2006 Quebec (Canada)
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    Bummer, the guy in front of me in line got the last glass of Zwanze :(

    Oh well, the Iris was delish though!
  36. liamt07

    liamt07 Jul 26, 2009 Ontario (Canada)
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    Didn't miss much!
  37. bylerteck

    bylerteck May 17, 2009 Ontario (Canada)
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    How was everybody's day? In terms of pricing, DDC was fantastic. No entry fee and beer prices didn't seem too high for me.

    Downside was that we waited in line about 30 people deep from 12:45 and getting to the bar for beers was a mission; almost too much of a mission.

    My thoughts on Zwanze were "not worth waiting in line for 2 hours and riding the Greyhound for 4."

    The other events in Canada were obviously run differently. What is the consensus on pros/cons and best beer of the day?
  38. Lurkaholic

    Lurkaholic Jun 14, 2013 British Columbia (Canada)
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    Being one of the guys lucky enough to win a ticket to the Alibi for Zwanze, I have to say I enjoyed it. No lineups or anything, they had a number of tables set aside for us and immediately as people took their seats they were brought glasses of the alibi's current cask (citra dry hopped red racer ipa). After that, 16oz pours of YBC's Oud Bruin were handed out too and food started arriving - lots of charcuterie plates, cheese plates, olives & edamame everywhere. 16oz pours of Zwanze followed up behind it too. There was no charge for any of this, though some folks ordered extra drinks / meals too. So for the people who could attend, I would be hard pressed to imagine a smoother experience... no queuing, no leaving seats, no hassle. On the downside, we were very much the lucky few and while we had it great a lot of folks missed out. It was also a pity there were no other Cantillon kegs there, though obviously that was beyond the Alibi's control.

    My thoughts on Zwanze were that is was certainly interesting but not really that exciting. The further I got through the glass (or the warmer it got, not sure) the more citrus notes I started picking up, which was nice compared to the initial enourmous dryness - but I think I'd take one of their fruit lambics over it any day. General consensus around the people I was sitting with was similar - interesting, but not their most interesting.
  39. liamt07

    liamt07 Jul 26, 2009 Ontario (Canada)
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    $9 for a 5oz pour of either the Zwanze or Classic Gueuze at barVolo. What were you guys paying? I overheard one of the owners saying something along the lines of "needing" to charge that much in order to break even or something... (although a 5oz pour of Zwanze was already included with the $15 ticket for entry)
  40. bylerteck

    bylerteck May 17, 2009 Ontario (Canada)
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    Every beer I had at DDC was $5 for what seemed like about a 5oz pour.

    Prices for bottles were quite reasonable too. $20 for Cuvee de Ranke and de Ranke Kriek 750s. Vintages of a few DDC bottles were $15-$20.
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