Cellar Reviews (2022)

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  1. zac16125

    zac16125 (1,101) Jan 26, 2010 South Carolina
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    Happy Sunday Funday Cellar Dwellers!

    2017 BCB Northwoods Stout
    bottled: 10Aug17
    reviewed: 2Oct22

    Pours jet black. 2 plus fingers width of dark tan head, decent retention before dissipating down. Aroma is roasty, berry, blueberries there and still pretty prominent. Barrel notes pretty faded. Substantial almond which is quite nice. The nose has faded a bit but the taste has continued to develop and is simply lovely. Dark fruits, nice blueberry but not dominant, smooth toasty oak barrel notes on the finish. Long lingering oaky vanilla. Mouthfeel is silky smooth, carbonation low but fine, ABV completely unnoticeable, excellent drinkability. All in all this is exceptional and I think it’s continued to develop and improve even at 5 plus years. Super impressive. Only negative is this is my last one!


    4.5/4.25/4.75/4.5/4.75

    (Original/fresh review: 4/4.5/4.25/4.5/4.25)

    (2020 review: 4.5/4.5/4.5/4.5/4.5)


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    Cheers, beer nerds!
     
  2. Rug

    Rug (873) Aug 20, 2018 Massachusetts
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    Damn, you're making me wish this was one of the vintage bottles I picked up when I visited Chicago a few weeks ago! This one was significantly more expensive though so oh well
     
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  3. Whyteboar

    Whyteboar (933) Jun 7, 2008 Michigan
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    So every month a few of my friends and I have a SAN - "Stout Appreciation Night"
    Last Friday these were out beers, 2020 was the youngest. One of the attendees didn't know what an RIS was so I thought she should have an decent introduction.
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    These are all good, funny (but predictable) that every one of us had different 'favorites' for the night.
    Well, better get back to work. Cheers all!
     
  4. ChicagoJ

    ChicagoJ (1,211) Feb 2, 2015 Illinois
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    Quick check in with a beer style we don't see in these parts too often. I enjoyed this early this morning.

    St. Bernardus Abt 12 (Watou Belgium, best by 10/19/24)

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    I believe they use a five year best by date convention, meaning this beer was bottled October 19, 2019. I purchased this at store room temperature, had it refrigerated until this morning.

    No noted departure from my OG Review linked here. Find this beer can be enjoyed fresh or aged, and this bottle is no different. 2-3 years may be the sweet spot. The only regret is I was too anxious to dig in and didn't let it warm enough to let the flavors germinate further.

    While I don't plan on purposefully cellaring bottles in the future, this is one beer I will continue to buy with confidence within the best by date from quality stores. Wish this came in a 16.9 oz format, but in the future I'll splurge on the 25.4 oz bottle over these smaller bottles as 11 oz may be OK for most beers, but it really left me wanting with this among The Beer GOATs.
     
  5. DIM

    DIM (1,242) Sep 28, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    In honor of this exciting news https://www.beeradvocate.com/commun...-h-taylor-bourbon-barrel-aged-bigfoot.669205/ I am opening my last bottle of Vintage Barrel Aged Bigfoot.

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    This is mellow and magnificent. The caramel and whiskey are soooo smoothe. Subtle raisin and vanilla add depth. I get a hint of umami in the middle here, can't think of a better descriptor. The finish still has a bit of hop bite which goes well with a fairly strong oaky tobacco at the finish. No sign whatsoever of decline, this has years to go yet. I can't imagine it getting better though, it's absolutely incredible right now.
     
  6. Fordcoyote15

    Fordcoyote15 (862) Nov 19, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    What year is this?
     
  7. DIM

    DIM (1,242) Sep 28, 2006 Pennsylvania
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  8. DIM

    DIM (1,242) Sep 28, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    This is around one and a half years old, I first had this in June of last year and loved it. That hasn't changed. Brown sugar, golden syrup, toffee, boozy raisins, molasses, with hints of vanilla and oak. This is sweet but there are a lot of decadent layers at work. I can't really say if this has changed all that much but it's drinking damn fine right now. Hope the 6k's do as well.
     
  9. ChicagoJ

    ChicagoJ (1,211) Feb 2, 2015 Illinois
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    Looked for a beer to celebrate the 10th Anniversary of What Beer Are You Drinking Now? thread and selected this anniversary beer chilling in my refrigerator for the past six months.

    Bell's 30th Anniversary Cherry Stout Reserve

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    OG Review Link

    Bottle Notes:
    Reviewing a bottle from the same four pack I reviewed over three years ago. Bottled 5/11/18, refrigerated at purchase on 6/8/19, cellared until 4/17/22, refrigerated until opening tonight. $13.99 for the four pack. 9.0% ABV

    Compare and contrast versus my June 2019 experience:

    Appearance: Head lasted very briefly and did not linger very long versus the original version enjoyed 13 months after bottling. 4.0 vs. 4.5 OG

    Aroma:
    Let this linger 15 minutes at room temperature before diving in. Getting a nice cherry I didn't get three years earlier, the chocolate and roast malt aromas taking a back seat but still present. This surprisingly improved over time, though that may have been a function of not allowing this to warm properly? Not really sure, but digging nonetheless. 4.5 vs. 4.25 OG

    Taste: Still pretty sweet, cherry leads over chocolate and roast malt. Getting light oxidation at this point, cardboard, so if you have these you may want to crack them open this Winter to avoid any further degradation. 4.25 vs. 4.75 OG

    Mouthfeel:
    Would say this thinned out a bit, still creamy but wouldn't necessarily call rich as I did in my review notes. Nearly halfway through at this stage, and is drinking light and easy, even below the listed 9% ABV. 4.25 vs. 4.5 OG

    Overall:
    This beer held up very well for the most part, though slightly under it's peak performance noted 13 months after bottling. Still enjoying very much, but plan on tending to my final bottle this Winter. 4.25 vs. 4.5 OG

    Cheers Cellar Dwellers!
     
  10. Fordcoyote15

    Fordcoyote15 (862) Nov 19, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    2013 De Molen Hel & Verdoemenis barrel aged in Wild Turkey barrels.

    I'm a huge fan of regular Hel & Verdoemenis and would attest it may be the greatest stout ever brewed. So getting my hands on some barrel aged dusties was an opportunity I jumped at when I saw them available.

    The crack of the bottle top let out no hiss. The pour was flat as could be also. Pours more oily than I recall the standard to pour, and this looks lighter too.

    The smell and I know its passed its prime. Its not explosive with roast and smoke like the non barrel aged version. And I can edge out something off in the smell too. To its benefit I'm getting massive tobacco notes that I associate with old JW Lees Harvest Ale - a flavor/aroma profile I'm emphatic about that seems to come with age.

    Taste is so much more void than the standard. Its not chalky, dry, or the bitter roast bomb that i know and love H&V to be. It drinks SO much less extreme. Has this beer actually melded into something so much less intense over the last 9 years? Or is this just a product of variation in the beer from batch to batch? After all, lots of tweaks to the recipe may have been done between this and the fresher versions I know.

    I don't love this beer up front. It doesn't hit me with the smoke and ash I want and expect. Theres a note I want to call prune juice because its like the common stout descriptor of "dark fruit" but old and shriveled.

    Conversely to up front - on the finish, its all love. It has days and days of old leather, tobacco, and that classic JW Lees mustiness I picked up on in the nose.

    Overall I can't say this 9 year old beer is better than a fresh Hel & Verdoemenis. Its truly not. It might be entirely possible that beer simply cannot be improved upon.
     
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  11. Fordcoyote15

    Fordcoyote15 (862) Nov 19, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    Too late to edit my last post to add. But a very non-aesthetic and not appetizing finish.

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  12. bayareahustla

    bayareahustla (0) Jul 13, 2012 California
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    Grabbed these earlier this year from SN website. Been drinking them randomly but decided to do them one after the other today.

    16 and 11 were my favorites. Bitterness was heavy on the 11 which I really like.
    Sweetness and balance was the name of the game on the 16.
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  13. zac16125

    zac16125 (1,101) Jan 26, 2010 South Carolina
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    Love this!
     
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  14. zac16125

    zac16125 (1,101) Jan 26, 2010 South Carolina
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    Evening Cellar Dwellers! Sipping on one I never intended to cellar but it found it’s way to the back of a beer fridge plus I just don’t drink much beer these days: a 2021 KBS Cinnamon Vanilla Cocoa.

    Pours opaque black, very large tan head with great retention and some really nice lacing. Aroma is huge chocolate, just massive and a spectrum including dark cocoa, milk chocolate, and fudge. The vanilla bean is also very prominent, cinnamon is more subtle. There’s a graham cracker like aroma that gives this beer the aromatic semblance of s’more. Some roastiness, a subtle herbaceous character, and pretty big coffee. Barrel notes are present and contribute nicely. Just a delightful aroma, so much going on and really well balanced. Taste is black coffee up front, with even bigger black coffee on the finish. Lingers flavors of bitter black coffee. There’s a metallic astringency that’s creeping in that makes it seem like it’s almost having oxidation issues already but at 14 months that is definitely strange. Other characters i get are subtle cinnamon, bitter unsweetened cocoa, toasty oak barrel notes. But it really lacks that depth and balance that was on the nose, it’s mostly just black coffee and bitterness. Mouthfeel is full bodied. ABV is not noticeable, drinkability is average. Overall, this came out swinging but def was a let down flavor wise. Not sure if it fell off a cliff or what, but in its current state this is a big disappointment.

    4.75/4.75/3.5/4/3.75
    Original/fresh review: n/a
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    Listening to Kitchen Dwellers in honor of you Cellar Dwellers!

    Cheers!
     
  15. zac16125

    zac16125 (1,101) Jan 26, 2010 South Carolina
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    Back to back days of Cellar Review postings for me, must mean beer drinking season has begun (too damn hot in Fl most of the year to drink the styles I like)!

    2020 DFH 120 Min on this random Tuesday, because I have a drinking problem.
    bottled on: 7/10/20
    reviewed: 10/25/22

    Not gonna lie, its ugly in the glass. Murky dark brownish amber, essentially fully opaque. Optimistically it has a nice sized white tan head with good retention and some nice lacing which bring up the appearance score. Aroma is lovely. Big fruity esters balanced by equally big caramel notes. Some hop spice that’s almost noble hop esque (although certianly those are not the hops used). Green apple and pear are notable, pretty floral as well. Just a killer nose. Taste follows, with just a great balance of malt sugars and hop bitterness, and a nice warning alcohol that brings it all together. Caramel, toffee, fruity, earthy, boozy all at once. The mouthfeel is upper end of the moderate on the heaviness spectrum with a nice carbonation. The ABV is noticeable, but in a positive way as opposed to a detracting way. It is quite remarkable how easy drinking this is for an 18% beer, I mean it literally doesn’t make sense. Overall, what more can I say other than to pull off this type of beer with these flavor and aromatic profiles clocking it at an absurd 18% ABV; I consider this a true masterpiece in brewing.

    I’ve had many vintages at various ages, all are very good if not great. But I must say, 2 years may be the sweet spot for me. I honestly don’t know why I don’t have a cellar full of these, and I need to make a conscious effort to buy these more often for aging.

    4/4.5/4.75/4.75/5
    (Original/Fresh: 4/4/4/5/4.5, of note original review was before BA had the 0.25 interval)

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  16. Beersnake1

    Beersnake1 (1,683) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    2014 Third Coast Old Ale.

    Poured at fridge temp. Pours a nice dark brown with minimal head. The nose is full of caramel, raisins, prunes, figs, a touch of maple, and a slight note of almonds. Incredible!

    The taste is a great mix of sweet toffee, dark fruit, and hops. The hoppy bitterness is clearly a shadow of what it once was, which is just fine with me! I like my American barleywines with some age to trim some of that hop bite. Grass, pine needles, leather, hay, figs, toffee, raisins, plums, brown sugar, and maybe a touch of coffee grounds/tobacco. Very smooth and easy to drink. No sign of the ABV. A treat indeed.

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  17. zac16125

    zac16125 (1,101) Jan 26, 2010 South Carolina
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    Evening folks. Tough loss for my Nittany Lions today but I did have my first ever eagle on the golf course today, so not a completely lost Saturday. Celebrated that eagle with a couple Busch Lights at the course, but home now and sipping on this 2020 Aventinus Eisbock, which I must say is a step up from those Busch Lights!

    Pours nearly opaque, but a nice copper to dark mahogany color. Small dark teas head disappears quickly leaving no lacing. Aroma is just huge fig and dates, caramel and toffee, subtle wheaty spice much lessso than fresh, essentially none of the clove that comes out fresh, but tons of dark fruit notes. Taste is more balanced and really really good. The dark fruits with fig remain the most prominent but there’s notbaly more spice including the characteristic clove. I also get some cocoa, a bit of bitterness, an almost floral character to round it all out. Truly just awesome. Mouthfeel is medium bodied with a good carbonation, no signs of the ABV and just crazy drinkable. Overall, It’s terrific. I’m a huge fan of Aventinus Eisbock but actually have never cellared it before. Grabbed three 2020’s and this is my first one. Will take the other two out a few more years and see how it continues to develop. But so far, as expected, it’s aged wonderfully.

    4.25/4.5/4.75/4.75
    (Original/fresh review: 4/4.5/4.5/4.5/4.5; of note original review was before BA’s 0.25 interval ratings).

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    Cheers, fellow old beer nerds!
     
  18. zac16125

    zac16125 (1,101) Jan 26, 2010 South Carolina
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    Happy NFL Sunday Funday BAs! Todays cellar beer is a 2019 BCB Mon Cheri. A beer I loved fresh, and with 1.5 years on it. Unfortunately this is my last one, but let’s see how it is at a little over 3 years.

    Pours opaque black, small dark tan head, dissipates quickly and leaves zero lacing. Aroma is cherries, chocolate, cinnamon, a bit of oak. There’s some fusel ethanol notes, barrel characters in the milder side. Nice aroma but seems to have faded some with time. Contrary to the aroma fading, the taste remains amazing. Huge cherry, huge chocolate, a bit of balancing herbaceousness, barrel notes on the finish with toasted oak, some nuttiness, and bourbony vanilla. Black coffee bitterness and some oats. Great balance of sweet, roastiness, and a hint of balancing booze. Complex and delicious. Mouthfeel is full bodied, carbonation low but fine, ABV very well masked and drinkability is very good. Overall, it remains excellent. In terms of its aging, the adjuncts are fading in the nose but otherwise it’s holding up strong, and is super smooth and mellow right now. Can’t say that it’s gotten better since the last time I had it 1.5 years but it hasn’t faded much either. Drinking great right now.

    4.25/4.25/4.75/4.75/4.5
    (Original/fresh review:4.25/3.75/4.75/4.25/4.5;
    review at 1.5 years 4.25/4.5/4.75/4.5/4.5)

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  19. Rug

    Rug (873) Aug 20, 2018 Massachusetts
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    I recently had a 2006 vintage bottle of this. I won't go as far as to say it's bulletproof with time, but damn does it hold up well. It looked quite oxidized (it was a deep reddish brown) but hardly tasted as such, maybe just a touch of umami. Craziest part is I just found it sitting on the shelf among fresh bottles at Half Time. Great beer at any age
     
  20. Fordcoyote15

    Fordcoyote15 (862) Nov 19, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    I've got an '02 lined up to crack that I'm very much looking forward to. Will post in here when I do.
     
  21. zac16125

    zac16125 (1,101) Jan 26, 2010 South Carolina
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    Happy NFL Sunday Funday old beer nerds! Sipping a 2020 Westy 12 today. Absolutely one of my favorite beers and IMO unquestionably amongst the best beers in the world. I’ve had this beer from from until past 5 years, and for me it’s typically ideally right around this two year mark.

    Pours dark mahogany almost approaching black. One plus fingers width of slightly off white colored bright head with very good retention and leaves some lacing. Aroma is decadent, complex, and amazing. A boquet of dark fruits with big dates, grapes, some sweet plum. Next is a nearly equally big toffee. There’s a big doughy characters, like a sweet breakfrest bread. Balancing spice rounds out the aroma with some baking spices; cinnamon and nutmeg. Taste follows, with similar characters: dark fruits up front, big caramel. Sugary sweetness, balanced by spice and a hint of bitterness. Long lingering dark fruits and subtle cocoa. almost like a fine cabernet. It’s just wildly complex with waves of flavors that all intermingle perfectly. Mouthfeel is full bodied yet has a lovely carbonation, that unique combo that seems to only be pulled off in Belgian high gravity beers. It’s far too drinkable. Overall, amongst the elite of the elite. I know it’s fallen down the ranks but personally I think it continues to belong in the discussion for best beer on the planet. I’m not sure I can name a better one.

    4.5/5/5/5/5

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  22. zac16125

    zac16125 (1,101) Jan 26, 2010 South Carolina
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    A second one today. In celebration of the time change maybe? Any excuse to enjoy good beer!

    2021 BCB Cherry Wood. I very much enjoyed this fresh and was impressed how simply the addition of cherry wood aging changed the base beer so much. Let’s see how it’s drinking at around 14 months.

    Pours opaque black, large tan head with decent retention but little lacing. Aroma is roasted malts, lots of earthy woody notes, subtle dark fruits, unsweetened bakers chocolate, charred marshmallow, moderate barrel notes with toasted oak and nutty vanilla. Taste is tons of woody characters, prominent nuttiness almost peanut butter-esque; actually definitely peanut butter-esque. Barrel characters are definitely there, with a lingering bourbony charred oak. Base beer characters with a huge roastiness, and moderate black coffee with a mild bitterness. Mouthfeel is full bodied, ABV well masked, average drinkability. Overall, didn’t like it as much as I remembered fresh. Probably not fair to review a beer that soon after a Westy 12. Regardless, I have a few more will take them out a ways more and see how this develops with more time.

    4.5/4.25/4.25/4.25/4.25
    (Original/fresh review: 4.5/5/4.5/4.5/4.5)

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  23. Beersnake1

    Beersnake1 (1,683) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    2005 Bell's 7,000. 17 years old. Poured at fridge temp, but allowed to warm a bit. Pours pitch black without a sign of carbonation. No head. Looks super thick and concentrated.

    The nose is clearly showing the age. Black licorice, molasses, maple, port, tobacco, coffee, and sweet plums and raisins. Big nose!

    The taste incredibly intense. Crazy amount of bitter roasted malts. Like chewing on burnt wood and leather. Tar, black licorice, tobacco, French roast coffee grounds, an earthy note, and a bit of soy sauce. Burnt toffee and VERY dark chocolate come through with time. This is insane.

    Mouthfeel is thick and creamy. Very intense with the lack of carbonation. Bitter on the aftertaste. Never got to try it fresh, so I have no idea what 17 years has done. Glad to find this bottle for $6 at a local shop a few weeks ago!

    4.24/5 rDev -0.7%
    look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

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  24. DIM

    DIM (1,242) Sep 28, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    2013 was the only year I did a Bourbon County style geek out. That was the year they introduced the barleywine and I REALLY wanted to try it. I worked Black Friday but made a few phone calls the following Sunday and was able to get a couple of four packs. It was undeniably great but I never chased Bourbon County again. Until I heard about this year's 2 year barrel version. I got one 2022 in a package with some vintage bottles, I think I'll try the older ones first. Here is the 2013 I loved 9 years ago.

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    Well this is definitely past it's peak, as evidenced by the beginnings of rust on the cap. It's a little thin and a bit sugary, but it's still very enjoyable even if it isn't similar to the beer I reviewed 9 years ago. I talked about chocolate and dark fruit then but I don't get much if any of that now. Lots of bourbon soaked and toffee and caramel and not much else. If you have any of these I say open them now, it's still enjoyable but not getting any better at this point.
     
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  25. ChicagoJ

    ChicagoJ (1,211) Feb 2, 2015 Illinois
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    Starting with the Fall Winter clearing of the cellar once again. This is a beer I tried first two years ago, and pulled a second can from the cellar just under a year ago.

    Sierra Nevada Barrel Aged Narwhal

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    Canned 3/6/20, 11.9% ABV, 16 oz. Remained refrigerated since Nov 2021.

    Original Review - 1/9/21

    First Cellar Review - 12/2/21

    Comparison of this same batch against the two reviews above.
    • Appearance remains unchanged over time.
    • Aroma went from bourbon leading (Jan 2021) to more complexity chocolate and malt to bourbon once again front and center, this time more sharp and biting than the smooth bourbon noted nearly two years ago. Did not expect this.
    • Taste follows nose, thought bourbon malt mix sweeter than what the nose indicates, and beyond my preference level. More like Jim Beam and and cooled down hot chocolate.
    • Mouthfeel contains a still faint fizzy carbonation. Drinks much easier than expected both for the ABV and this time of day. Sweetness, more milk and roast chocolate than anything else, lingers.
    • Overall, I am liking it more as it smooths out, now over 30 minutes after opening with just under half a can to go. Overall, I enjoyed the fresh version best, and my first cellar review prediction that the beer would not improve held true. Drink these fresh while you have then for optimal enjoyment.
    Cheers!
     
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  26. DIM

    DIM (1,242) Sep 28, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    Having a 2017 Bourbon County Barleywine tonight. The only other vintage I've ever tried is 2013, when they used third use barrels. Very excited to try the second use treatment.

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    As good as the 2013 was last night, this is much better. The body is full and lightly sticky, showcasing the layers and nuances nicely. The bourbon is robust and comes with a nice oaky tingle and a hint of vanilla. Lots of toffee in the base beer along with some raisin and hints of chocolate. If I was scoring this, it would probably be almost as high as the fresh 2013 from way back when. This vintage is worth seeking out.
     
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  27. GrumpyGas

    GrumpyGas (1,346) Apr 7, 2009 Illinois
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    I intentionally held this back to age, but didn't realize I had not reviewed it fresh. While I know the bourbon is slightly muted, although just from memory, it is perfectly matched with the bitter roast malts now.
    There is neither bottling nor best by date marking, but the earliest reviews here indicate a fall 2020 release. So, a two year old imperial stout aged in bourbon barrels.

    12oz bottle poured into a pint glass shows a dark brown body, cola colored at the edges as light filters through, and almost holds a 1/8" cap of cream colored foam while leaving the glass dripping with tiny spots of lacing with agitation.

    Bourbon notes dominate the aroma joined by that fresh air/ roast malt aroma I love.

    The flavor remains a gloriously, yet restrained, bourbon soaked roasted malt elixir that welcomes, if not demands, another sip.

    Medium mouthfeel is expected as I believe they used the Antwerpen stout for this base and that one is a bit thinner than the standard stout, and certainly less creamy than the nitro, but it is also expected due to the barrel aged presentation.

    Overall, I expected great things from Guinness, and they delivered.

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  28. Mdog

    Mdog (913) Jan 7, 2004 Minnesota
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    Jubel 2015
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    Appearance: Brown, murky, ok head that fades out pretty quickly.

    Smell: Oxidized caramel, red wine fruitiness, some oddball vegetal note.

    Taste: Very earthy, muted caramel sweetness, kind of a woody note, subdued red fruit, then a combined earthy and mild dark chocolate finish.

    Overall: I saw this at Blue Max (Burnsville, MN) as I think they are clearing out all their cellared beers and thought I'd try it. I've never had it fresh, so this bottle is somewhere around 7 years old. It's hard to tell what's changed when I haven't had it fresh, but it does seem like this might be a bit past optimal drinking age. Flavors seem muted and muddled, not bad, but not great. It is pretty complex in trying to decipher these flavors, so I call it a worthy experiment.
     
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  29. Beersnake1

    Beersnake1 (1,683) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    2012 Bourbon County. Poured at fridge temp, but allowed to warm for a bit. Low carbonation at this point. The nose is quite different from when fresh (this was cellared properly by me). Very strong bourbon, a touch of soy sauce, and some chocolate. Fairly one-dimensional. The taste is MUCH better than the nose. Big roasted malts, toffee, chocolate, bourbon, vanilla, a bit of coffee, dark fruit, and some brown sugar. Very nice, but totally different from fresh. Interesting experience. This is my last one of the older ones.

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  30. jvgoor3786

    jvgoor3786 (1,264) May 28, 2015 Arkansas
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    Evening all. I've been drinking from the cellar quite a bit lately, but I haven't posted any here - mainly because I forgot about this thread. Which is too bad, because this thread is great. Tonight I'm enjoying a Bells Expedition Stout bottled 9/8/16. It has held up exceptionally well as I've come to expect with this beer and with Third Coast. It's still showing lots of sweet chocolate and a nice chary leather but it's lost almost all the bitterness on the finish. Really enjoyable.

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  31. Whyteboar

    Whyteboar (933) Jun 7, 2008 Michigan
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    As I was looking through my cellar the other day I found I have a 5 year vertical of this from 18 - 22. Trying to decide how best to try them all on the same evening.
    Oh, and Happy Thanksgiving all!
     
  32. jvgoor3786

    jvgoor3786 (1,264) May 28, 2015 Arkansas
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    I'm pretty sure I have from 15 to present, although I may have missed '20 or '21 - those were some weird years for distro. I'm pretty sure I can't do them all in one night. :neutral_face:
     
  33. Whyteboar

    Whyteboar (933) Jun 7, 2008 Michigan
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    I have my SAN group, but currently there are 4 of us and I think I want more than 3 oz of each. If you need a 20 and/or 21, let me know. If I have extra I'd be happy to send them your way.
    And you are right; as tempting as it would be, drinking all of them in one night by myself would not be the brightest move I could make.
    Cheers!
     
  34. zac16125

    zac16125 (1,101) Jan 26, 2010 South Carolina
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    Happy Thanksgiving Cellar Dwellers! A big time beer for one of the best days of the year. Truly, I have an exceptional amount that I am thankful for and I have not lost sight of how lucky I really am. Having these beer as a celebration.

    2019 Bourbon County Double Barrel Stout. Aged for a year in 11 year old Elijah Craig barrels, and then a second year in 12 year old Elijah Craig barrels. Also, the only BCB variant I haven’t yet had, meaning as of now I’ve had every Bourbon County variant ever bottled and released…..at least until 9am tomorrow when this new years variants hit the market!

    Which of course means I did not have this beer fresh, so no fresh tasting notes for comparison. This one was quite difficult to obtain, and I’m pretty excited for it. Let’s see how it’s drinking at a little over 3 years.

    Pours an opaque black with 1.5 fingers width of mocha colored head with pretty good retention before dissipating down. Aroma is a medley of whisky and barrel characters: huge charred oaky bourbon, very big nuttiness, some less pronounced scotch like peat notes. Next I get cocoa and chocolate fudge, a bit of toasted marshmallow, roasted malts, some vanilla. Taste is….wow. Just holy shit this is amazing. It’s bold and aggressive, crazy big whiskey notes that are nutty and earthy, with a big charred oak. There’s bitterness with black coffee and pronounced roastiness but these bold and aggressive flavors are balanced by a big sweetness consisting of huge chocolate, sweet dark and ripe red fruits. There’s an obvious fusel booziness but it’s not distracting yet rather adds to the balance and complexity. Mouthfeel is full body, carbonation is appropriate, the alcohol is noticeable but it’s surprisingly not hot for an 18%’er and it’s dangerously drinkability. Overall, this is a fantastic. Not quite at my all time favorites level but in the top 10, maybe top 5 BCB variants which puts it in elite of the elite category.


    4.5/4.5/5/4.75/5
    (Original/fresh review: n/a)

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  35. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson (1,068) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    Haven't dipped into my cellar in a while. But tonight I saw a 19 Narwhal calling my name. It's reminding me why I like to cellar this thing. I find it to be generally discombobulated at around 16-28 months. But drinking this bad boy at 39 months (bottled 8/22/19) and I'm loving the chocolate and dark fruit goodness.

    Happy Thanksgiving cellar dwellers
     
  36. DIM

    DIM (1,242) Sep 28, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    I can't believe it's been 14 months since my first bottle.

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    Yeah this is headed in the right direction. I enjoyed the first bottle, but this has improved I think. The sweet booze, dark fruits, and brown sugar are still abundant up front. They linger longer into the finish which isn't as hot or as bitter as I remember. Not sure how long I'll spread out the last 3 I have, this isn't going down hill anytime this decade. At least.
     
  37. Fordcoyote15

    Fordcoyote15 (862) Nov 19, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    2003 DFH 120 minute. (Allegedly).

    I bought this and a handful of other beers from a cellar group on FB. What arrived was a clearly not a 2003. The 120 minute was stamped 2012 or 2013 (I forget). I reached out to the seller upset and they said they sent the wrong one. I then received an unlabeled bottle with only a marker on the cap stating 2003 120 minute.

    Bottle crack and pour is completely flat - not unreasonable.

    Look - actually looks like 120min.

    Taste - taste like 120 minute. But completely flat. And not hot. Maybe sweeter than I know it.

    Feel is thinner than I know this beer, and much less hot. If anyone had any very early bottles of 120 minute I'd love to pick your brain. There a few interesting characteristics about this bottle that I'd like to corroborate whether its authentic or not.

    Apart from the criticism ehat im drinking is genuinely great. It does taste like 120 minute but genuinely 10% not 19 or 20%. Sweeter, more caramel sugar. If this beer is genuine then 20 year old 120 minute is top tier shit. It just doesn't quite add up witb the lack of heat primarily and hoppiness secondarily.
     
  38. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson (1,068) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    2019 BCBS

    Drinking this as I mull over picking up a bottle of the new batch.

    This one is past it's prime for me. The positive flavor aspects that remain are mostly fig/prune, with the prune gaining strength. A bit of char and a bit of light tobacco and old leather. This decent flavor profile is undercut by a sharp ethanol note and a sort of vaguely spicey/cola type flavor that I get from lots of whiskey barrel aged stouts as they age out of their prime.

    I think I've got one more of these but I'll probably skip over it and try to get to the 2020 I have sooner than later and maybe buy a single 2022. Definitely filing this one as one to drink fresher than not.
     
  39. Fordcoyote15

    Fordcoyote15 (862) Nov 19, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    Apologies for the non-aesthetic picture. I peeled the label off of this one to stick on my beer fridge but then thought this is such a long time tick for me that I should really log it. So the picture came mid-way through the beer

    Here's an olde money tick. 2009 (presumed) olde rabbits foot. A collab stout brewed by foothills, duck rabbit, and olde hickory aged in 23 year pappy barrels. To my knowledge, all of these breweries are still in operation but you seldom hear a lot about them. To me, that just screams we brew good beer but don't care about being trendy.

    There is no bottle date on it but its bottle 350/694. With a little bit of googling I get several hits that this is from its inaugural year of 2009 there were 694 bottles. I turn up no results for this bottle count on any other year so I'm led to believe this is a 2009 bottle.

    I also find it super cool to find trade posts for this beer back as far as 2010 and seeing an entirely different trading mentality from where it is today.

    Anyhow. My actual reviews suck as I dont have the palate or talent to iterate the nuances I'm smelling or tasting. From my initial review a half hour ago:

    "Very cool beer to obtain being an old money fan. Collab from three classic breweries. Can't find a bottle date. This is however bottle 350 of 694 so im sure that could pinpoint the year if i did some digging.

    Cellar temp. Looks magnificent. Rich, frothy head. Smells a smidgen off. A metallic note of pennies or nickels.

    Taste is nice. Very classic RIS with bakers cocoa and roast. Not over the top bitter though. Not getting any of the honey mentioned on the label, nor any barrel. Definitely tastes very old and aged, but not off. But chalky, dry, scratchy finish screams of oxidation. Still though, quit enjoyable and incredible basic but well done beer. You know, like when breweries could kill a beer with just the four main ingredients.

    Feel is solid for a 10% imperial stout.

    Overall a cool old school tick. Be nice to try again fresh in a smaller format if I ever get the chance to."
     
  40. ChicagoJ

    ChicagoJ (1,211) Feb 2, 2015 Illinois
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    I really enjoy your reviews and posts, laid out exactly what you experienced with great descriptions! What an excellent treat to come across that beer.

    Another cellar from my stash bought September 2020 from Wicker Park Walgreens.

    2019 Goose Island Bourbon County Brand Cafe de Olla Stout

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    I cracking open thus 2029 BCBS I reviewed fresh and also late Nov 2021, the link of both reviews provided below.

    https://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/cellar-reviews-2021.653024/page-13#post-7384201

    Bottle Notes: This beer was refrigerated on 5/1/21 after proper cellaring since purchase. The best by date is August 11, 2021, or close to 16 months past their recommended date. 13.5% ABV, same as both the draft version (2019) and cellar bottle (2021) in my linked reviews.

    Appearance similar across all three years. It's a little flatter now. 4.0 (4.25 in 2019 and 2021)

    Aroma: After letting this sit for 10 minutes, first is maple (which is not part of this release, but also noted in my review last year), a roast and slightly bitter coffee, leather, bourbon once again absent from the equation. Taking a 10 minute break to prepare a bagel,, I return and note an emergence of cardboard, which I don't recall ever with a BCBS regardless of age, with a bitter coffee reigning supreme. 2.75 (2019 4.0 2021 3.75)

    Taste:
    Took an initial sip 15 minutes after opening, but still above recommended serving temperature (20-25 minutes is my preferred starting point from the refrigerator for BA Stouts. First degradation noted with the coffee now roast bitter beans front and center, with slight to significant pepper crashing the proceedings. Ten minutes later I return to a still sweet maple backed by bitter coffee roast beans, bell pepper, leather and cigar ash. Time waits for no man or beer, certainly the case for the latter here. Oh how the mighty have fallen. 2.5 (2019 5.0 2021 4.25)

    Mouthfeel: Carbonation has held on all these years. Thinner than the silky smooth creamy mouthfeel noted the first two attempts. Drinks at the ABV now 1/2 bottle in. Its a muddled mess taste wise, though unpleasant flavors thankfully do not linger, though that may be the result of my paired bagel improving the situation. 3.5 (4.5 2019 and 2021)

    Overall: This is a muddled mess, though 0.0% blame on Goose Island as these lingered far too long in my possession. The bad news is I have six more of these, though they are sitting in my basement 50 F unheated cellar, so perhaps they will turn out slightly better. The good news is all of these were purchased for $5 each plus tax at a clearance sale. Bottom line, beers should not be held beyond their recommended fresh date, especially coffee beers. 2.75 (4.5 in 2019 4.25 in 2021).

    Cues Men at Work.
     
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