Discussion in 'Pacific' started by drewone, Mar 7, 2013.

  1. drewone

    drewone Sep 18, 2006 California
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    Anyone try it? Saw it today but was very unsure on the style to price ratio - curious to hear reports on it though.

    Here's what it said on the bottle:

    The Mesa- A new school testament to the tradition of brewing beer with grapes. It is a blend of 25% Santa Lucia highland Riesling from Mer Soleil Vineyard and 75% Pilsner from Cismontane. This beer is brewed entirely with Nelson Sauvin hops. Soured with Lactobacillus to enhance the natural grape acidity and fermented with a blend of wine and beer yeast. This process highlights the flavors that beer and wine have in common. The collaboration beer made by longtime friends Charlie Wagner and Evan Weinberg.
    6% ABV IBU N/A
  2. robL

    robL Oct 22, 2010 California

    Doesn't sound like my cup of tea, but I'd be willing to give it a try. Their other premium offerings, Black's Nocturne and Oso, were phenomenal IMO.

    What was the price and where did you see it?
  3. Destral

    Destral Oct 20, 2009 Nevada
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    The riesling really comes through on this. The only thing I can think of to compare it to would be Noble Rot, but this was much more flavorful. The lacto did not seem to sour it very much.
  4. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Mar 18, 2010 California

    I saw this down in SD for Churchill's weekend. It sounds very interesting.
  5. drewone

    drewone Sep 18, 2006 California
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    Beverage Warehouse - about $16 for a 750. They had about 12 bottles.
  6. drewone

    drewone Sep 18, 2006 California
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    BTW - a cool minimalist label, nothing compared to the 12oz labels, which I laugh about every time I see one.
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  7. imyourhero21

    imyourhero21 Oct 9, 2011 California
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    The blacks nocturne was pretty good. Had the oso on the release weekend and thought meh at best. The cask of holy jim falls was the best thing they had on tap that day
  8. jtmartino

    jtmartino Dec 11, 2010 California
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    Had this beer last night. Pretty clue why they chose Riesling instead of something dryer. Tasted a bit like Noble Rot, just not as good. The wine killed the complexity of the hops in the beer and left an overwhelming sweetness and thick mouthfeel that didn't do it any favors.

    Didn't finish the bottle. Other beers from Cismontane have been "meh" as well - I won't be seeking more out, especially at that price point.
  9. litheum94

    litheum94 Dec 29, 2008 California

    Saw this in Whole Foods, but passed since I didn't really like the only other beer I've had from them (Holy Jim Falls). May pick it up if it gets somewhat good reviews.
  10. jtmartino

    jtmartino Dec 11, 2010 California
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    Did you try Noble Rot? Because this is very, very similar, and not as good.
  11. litheum94

    litheum94 Dec 29, 2008 California

    No. We just recently got distro in my area (northern CA), and Holy Jim is all I've tried. I will keep my eyes open for that one.
  12. jtmartino

    jtmartino Dec 11, 2010 California
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    Noble Rot was from Dogfish Head. The Cismontane claims it uses souring bugs, but I didn't taste anything sour outside of the white whine characteristic. It definitely needs to be more sour IMO since the Riesling is thick and sweet.

    Some people may love it. I appreciate white wine, but I prefer mine tart, citrusy and a little dry.

    I'm with you on their beers though - not a huge fan of the 5 or so I've tried so far.
  13. litheum94

    litheum94 Dec 29, 2008 California

    I know Noble Rot is from DFH. I just thought you meant they had a beer from the same name. Thought that was a little fishy....I've never really had non-sour white wine beers. I'll have to keep in mind to not compare it to Temptation.
  14. jtmartino

    jtmartino Dec 11, 2010 California
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    Haha, there is absolutely no comparison :)
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