Citra Hops...

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  1. davey101

    davey101 Meyvn (1,114) Apr 14, 2009 Connecticut
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    Am I the only one not on board the "citra hype" train? After hearing so much about kern river citra and zombie dust I was really looking forward to trying these. I love a good hoppy beer so I was stoked to receive a ZD as an extra. Just cracked it open and it smells and tastes like dank bud mixed with pizza gold fish. Kind of savory and odd. I know its all about the taste buds and personal preference, but I was just wondering if I'm the only one not into this hop breed?
     
  2. dumptruck81

    dumptruck81 Initiate (0) Dec 28, 2011 Texas

    I'm a big fan of citra hops. Should be a passion fruit/gooseberry flavor. I have heard of some off flavor aroma from using too much for dry hopping but never experienced that. Never had zombie dust but I've had some homebrews with all or mostly citra and I loved em both. Also had drakes aroma coma with citra and it was really good also.
     
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  3. davey101

    davey101 Meyvn (1,114) Apr 14, 2009 Connecticut
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    Perhaps I'm just not used to it then. I get some grapefruit and tropical fruit, but it seems masked by some savory notes. <googles gooseberries>
     
  4. gatornation

    gatornation Poo-Bah (5,152) Apr 18, 2007 Minnesota
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    im a fan of citra hops because of its tropical/ fruity nature

    surly wet
    surly abrasive
    tallgrass halcyon wheat
    and even torpedo has some citra hops
     
  5. dumptruck81

    dumptruck81 Initiate (0) Dec 28, 2011 Texas

    When I gave out my homebrews to coworkers I described it as a "tropical" IPA. Even people that don't really like ipa's said they enjoyed it.
     
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  6. nrs207

    nrs207 Defender (647) Sep 8, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    Odd about that savory note. All I got from Zombie Dust was straight up tropical, grapefruit, and citrus fruit juice. It was too fruity to even pick them apart. It was just great. I can't even imagine KR Citra. If FFF amped up ZD to make a DIPA I'd probably need a change of pants.
     
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  7. davey101

    davey101 Meyvn (1,114) Apr 14, 2009 Connecticut
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    Interesting. I enjoyed wet and abrasive is one of my favorite beers. Perhaps its just the "citra only" beers which I can't stand.
     
  8. JHamm

    JHamm Initiate (0) Dec 8, 2009 Delaware

    I believe that you are indeed a heretic and therefore should be subjected to the colonial method of dunking to prove otherwise.
     
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  9. DrAwkward82

    DrAwkward82 Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2005 California

    Glad to hear someone else say it. Not at all a fan; I love tropical/grapefruity hops, but I get much more of a roasty, rye-like flavor and aroma from Citra beers I've had. Didn't care much for Zombie Dust, El Segundo Citra or even Kern River Citra.

    The only use of it I've enjoyed was in Bruery Batch 300, and that was more or less in spite of the Citra, since there were so many other things going on with that beer (Belgian triple aged on oak) that the single hop component was only one peripheral element.
     
  10. TongoRad

    TongoRad Poo-Bah (2,650) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Victory Headwaters features them, and it's quite fruity. I get a lot of berry/kiwi/tangerine in it. Really nice beer.
     
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  11. growlerphil

    growlerphil Initiate (54) Oct 26, 2011 Virginia

    Have brewed a couple of homebrews with Citra and, along with the fruity/tropical notes I have also detectected some "savory" type buttery flavors. Of course, that may just be the off flavor diacetyl.
     
  12. Giantspace

    Giantspace Crusader (721) Dec 22, 2011 Pennsylvania

    Free will citra pale ale is pretty nice. Had it a month or so ago on tap. Very nice tropical notes and orange citrus to it

    Enjoy
     
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  13. Rau71

    Rau71 Initiate (101) Dec 12, 2011 California
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    I thought Kern Citra which has some Amarillo in there too was fantastic. I was disappointed by Zombie Dust though.
     
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  14. founder26

    founder26 Initiate (0) Sep 9, 2009 Michigan

    o rly?
     
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  15. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Poo-Bah (13,549) Mar 18, 2010 California
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    You are probably in the minority.
     
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  16. Chadbrochill

    Chadbrochill Initiate (0) Mar 21, 2012

    I love citra hops! do you like hopslam? Maybe you got a Zombie dust that wasn't fresh enough.
     
  17. nc41

    nc41 Poo-Bah (1,942) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Kern River is amazing stuff, I bought some Wet, and it was ok, but not worth the money IMO. I prefer the Furious from Surley. Never had Zombie Dust, but I'm working on it.
     
  18. 46andBrew

    46andBrew Initiate (0) Mar 10, 2011 Indiana

    I love this post!
    I have been chastised on beeradvocate for suggesting Zombie Dust smelled like wild onions (I find it fascinating when people tell me what I should and should not smell and taste, as if somehow my brain perceives data EXACTLY like theirs). Perhaps we have the "cilantro taste gene", but for citra hops because I definitely get a savory/salty smell and taste from Zombie Dust (and Stone Enjoy By IPAs, SN Hoptimum, and here and there for a few other hop forward beers). I'm not as creative as to say "dank bud and pizza gold fish" but I certainly see where you're coming from.
     
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  19. MooseBoose

    MooseBoose Devotee (414) Jun 6, 2007 Wisconsin

    Didn't know Abrasive used Citra, but I do not like Abrasive. Had a Toppling Goliath Psuedo Sue, which I read on here uses Citra, and I thought it tasted HUGELY of lemony citrus flavors, to the point of wondering if the bar was using lemon Dawn dish soap and didn't rinse it out. Completely different taste from Abrasive however.
     
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  20. rails

    rails Initiate (0) Nov 8, 2012 California

    It was probably just a old zombie dust.
     
  21. COWHAWK

    COWHAWK Initiate (70) Jan 29, 2013 Iowa
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    I've had Toppling Goliath Pseudo Sue more times than I can count and never tasted anything like that before, Pseudo Sue is one of the best beers on the market and one of the best beers out there and better than zombie dust in my opinion maybe you tried the wrong beer!
     
  22. JM03

    JM03 Initiate (0) Nov 12, 2010 Ohio

    Citra is far and away my favorite hop. I can't get enough of it. So yeah, I'm on the train, and I ain't gettin off.
     
  23. superspak

    superspak Poo-Bah (32,388) May 5, 2010 Michigan
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    Hopslam is Simcoe, per Bells: "We use Hersbrucker, Centennial, Glacier, Vanguard, & Crystal in the kettle, and then dry hop with Simcoe."

    Pretty sure that Abrasive is 100% Ctra with Warrior for bittering only.

    Oh, and yea I love Citra, A LOT
     
  24. VelvetExtract

    VelvetExtract Poo-Bah (3,540) Jan 10, 2010 Massachusetts

    Citra for days. And the name is awesome.
     
  25. BottleCaps80

    BottleCaps80 Defender (620) Jan 12, 2013 Iowa
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    Agreed 100%. Tasted no lemons in Sue. Lots of grapefruit though. Mango too.
     
  26. BottleCaps80

    BottleCaps80 Defender (620) Jan 12, 2013 Iowa
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    Oh...and Citra is the best hop variety going.
     
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  27. fritts211

    fritts211 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2011 Tennessee

    You're not alone, OP. Not a big Citra hop fan. I'm pretty sure I don't mind it in conjuction with other ones, but Citra only doesn't do it for me.
     
  28. Nectar

    Nectar Initiate (0) Jan 17, 2013 New Jersey

    I love Citra hops and personally think that ZD was a boner in a bottle. It was that good
     
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  29. RBassSFHOPit2ME

    RBassSFHOPit2ME Meyvn (1,045) Mar 1, 2009 California

    I'm on the fence with all this "I pick out more fruit flavors in this IPA, therefore it's superior." BS. I like a good fruit forward Pinot, but I MUCH prefer a nice dry & earthy Cab. Pickin' up what I'm puttin' down?
     
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  30. busternuggz

    busternuggz Initiate (0) Mar 9, 2008 California

    I've heard of some homebrewers getting cat piss out of it, which was new to me. I had a citra dipa (100% citra) at a new local brewery recently and it was actually really boring, but another local all-citra that was incredible. It may just be a fickle hop that is affected by the other hops/malt in the beer?

    For the record I think nelson sauvin hops are better.
     
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  31. mkorpal

    mkorpal Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2007 Colorado

    I'll agree with those who say they don't like Citra much. It's a good hop to blend with, but the overwhelming grapefruit juice quality of it is just blah in my mind. There are equality good hops out there that don't cost and arm and a leg.
     
  32. ZDub

    ZDub Initiate (0) Mar 12, 2009 Illinois

    I work 20mins from FFF's and have had ZD a bunch and its always fantastic. Perhaps something was up with the bottle.
     
  33. kbuzz

    kbuzz Champion (888) Jan 22, 2011 North Carolina
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    Citra's hit or miss for me. Easy to overdo it, that's for sure. I start to get that "cat piss" note if too much is used. Hard to get past it once I detect it.
     
  34. Pahn

    Pahn Meyvn (1,454) Dec 2, 2009 New York

    i love citra hops like shipyard loves butter, but no you're not the only one. my brewing partner miraculously can't stand them.

    that said, i think you can get most of the beauty of citra with simcoe. (shrug)

    also, new zealand hops are the new in thing i think. or they were. next big thing might be off my radar at the moment. once people are over citra, they need to send them to me (preferably with rhizomes).
     
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  35. oldp0rt

    oldp0rt Initiate (0) Feb 24, 2011 Quebec (Canada)

    Felt the same about my first Zombie Dust, then a few weeks later I had it Fresh..
     
  36. kbuzz

    kbuzz Champion (888) Jan 22, 2011 North Carolina
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    In my limited experience w/ these tropical hop varieties, I've had the best results in my most recent batch dry-hopped with Mosaic...so maybe that's the next big thing:

    Mosaic Description: Also known as HBC369, Mosaic is the first born child of Simcoe. Some have described it as Citra on steroids, but it's much more than that. Rich in Mango, lemon, citrus, earthy pine, tropical fruit, herbal and stone fruit notes
     
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  37. MooseBoose

    MooseBoose Devotee (414) Jun 6, 2007 Wisconsin

    It was only the wrong beer if the Bodega hooked up the keg wrong. But as I said, maybe there was something funky with the glassware or some such thing, who knows.
     
  38. nc41

    nc41 Poo-Bah (1,942) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Citra hops are amazing.
     
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  39. WYVYRN527

    WYVYRN527 Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2007 Minnesota

    Love me some Citra hops. One of the more interesting beers I have had that contained citra was the last Schell's Stag Series. Fresh Hopped Citra Pils. So damn good and a damn shame it won't be brewed again.
     
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  40. spookyspeeg

    spookyspeeg Initiate (86) Feb 18, 2013 Connecticut

    I am with JM03 on this one. My last homebrew was an all Citra hop IPA and it was supremeatronic
     
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