Comparable to Pliny?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by rholmes, Jan 28, 2013.

  1. rholmes

    rholmes Initiate (0) Sep 11, 2012 Florida

    What beers do you find similar in taste to Pliny? Got to try this for the first time the other night, and I'm in an area where it's nearly impossible to get. Looking for beers that are more readily available on the East Coast.
  2. sukwonee

    sukwonee Crusader (740) Dec 13, 2011 Washington
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    This is a tough one... I can tell you DIPAs from the East Coast that are better than PtE.... but DIPAs that are similar in taste to PtE??? not sure...
  3. UnderJoath

    UnderJoath Initiate (0) Jul 29, 2010 Illinois
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    Bud Platinum

  4. Arbitrator

    Arbitrator Initiate (0) Nov 26, 2008 California

    Are you looking for that specific flavor/hop profile, or just a similar quality DIPA? If the latter, there are tons of alternatives around the country. I'd start with the Top Beers list from your region: and look for an IPA you recognize.

    This is the 21st century. There's no reason you shouldn't have a good IPA within driving distance.
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  5. rholmes

    rholmes Initiate (0) Sep 11, 2012 Florida

    Thanks for the info. I had no idea these lists could be seperated by region.
  6. rholmes

    rholmes Initiate (0) Sep 11, 2012 Florida

    What in your opinion is a better DIPA from the East Coast?
  7. peteinSD

    peteinSD Initiate (0) Apr 25, 2010 California

    you are not going to find another beer like pliny. but . . . you can explore the DIPA style locally and find many excellent variations on the style.
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  8. Gregfalone

    Gregfalone Initiate (0) Sep 5, 2012 California
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    Sculpin is almost close to as good, but not that similar. If you can get you hands on some heady it's as good, if not better, but still not that similar. It will be hard to find something as clean, smooth, good, and tasty as Pliny the elder regardless of your region.
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  9. IamMe90

    IamMe90 Initiate (0) Sep 4, 2012 Wisconsin

    I haven't had it, but the common consensus is that heady topper is the best DIPA out there, and it's from Vermont. But its distribution is also pretty self contained, so you might have to trade.
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  10. sukwonee

    sukwonee Crusader (740) Dec 13, 2011 Washington
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    Double Sunshine and Heady Topper to start...
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  11. dawatts

    dawatts Aspirant (211) Dec 27, 2006 Massachusetts

    I've heard Lagunitas Sucks is similar but can't say for sure.
  12. dawatts

    dawatts Aspirant (211) Dec 27, 2006 Massachusetts

    I had Hills Farmstead Abner over the weekend and I'd say it it should be in that list as well.
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  13. tdizzlegrizzle

    tdizzlegrizzle Initiate (147) Nov 3, 2009 Pennsylvania

    I can't say that these are necessarily similar in taste to Pliny but two great must-try IPAs that are readilly available are Ithaca Flower Power and Stone Ruination.
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  14. flayedandskinned

    flayedandskinned Initiate (0) Jan 1, 2011 California
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    I get a huge Pliny vibe from Stone's Enjoy By. Bit more tropical than pliny but definitely comparable.
  15. TheMonkfish

    TheMonkfish Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2012 Chad

    To me Maine Beer Lunch is spooky similar to Pliny.
  16. Mr_Brodie

    Mr_Brodie Initiate (16) Dec 13, 2012 New York
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    I agree with this. You are not going to find something that tastes so similar it is hard to notice. Enjo By is as easy to drink while being tasty but not dry and bitter. You don't have to be a hop head to enjoy this DIPA.
    Lagunitas Sucks, and Union Jack/Double Jack also are good west coast style IPAs that are easy to drink and easy to find in the NY area. I never tried Jai Alai or Lunch but hear they are great.
    Equal or better; Heady, Double Galaxy (any Hill Farmstead), and I am told Double Sunshine (never had). Unless you trade or drive to Vermont you're not drinking these. Lawsons availability is so random don't even count it in VT.
    Flower Power is the opposite end, not balanced, bitter, and so dry your toungue won't let you forget it.
  17. toofdoc

    toofdoc Initiate (0) Jun 28, 2011 New Mexico
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    Fat Heads Head Hunter
  18. jasoncheb

    jasoncheb Initiate (177) Nov 23, 2012 Virginia

    You will have a difficult time finding something comparable to PtE. This past weekend, at a tasting over at my house, we ran through a list that included (in order of tasting): Heady Topper, Pte, Enjoy By 2-15-13, Maharaja, Lagunitas Sucks, Alewerks-Bitter Valentine, and Sculpin (American IPA). The Heady and Enjoy By are very fragrant with a great hop kick that you would usually expect from a very fresh DIPA. The PtE provides a very smooth almost sweet, yet still citrusy, taste unlike any of the others I have listed. I like the use of some of the Hill Farmstead DIPAs listed above in comparison to the Heady Topper.
  19. mani

    mani Initiate (179) Jun 16, 2012 New Jersey
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  20. nc41

    nc41 Poo-Bah (1,520) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Sucks is the only one in NC that is even close, but it's still different.

    THANAT0PSIS Crusader (726) Aug 3, 2010 Wisconsin
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    I've heard from a few people that Lagunitas Hop Stoopid is somewhat comparable in flavor profile. What've you got to lose for $5/bomber?
  22. n2185

    n2185 Poo-Bah (1,911) Apr 14, 2008 North Carolina
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    While PtE is a good, but not great, DIPA, I really don't find anything about it that makes it particularly unique except for the hype. It's a nice, citrusy DIPA with some earthy and pine flavors. It's not like Gubna or Devil Dancer or Unearthly in having pretty distinctive flavors and aromas that set it apart from other IPAs (not that any of those beers is better--they're just more distinct).
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  23. kdmcguire10

    kdmcguire10 Initiate (0) Jul 15, 2011 Michigan

    I consider Lagunitas' Hop Stoopid to be a poor man's Pliny.
  24. Drucifer

    Drucifer Devotee (453) Apr 16, 2012 Illinois
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    Fresh FW Double Jack
  25. kdb150

    kdb150 Devotee (473) Mar 8, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    Victory Hop Devil has a hop profile that is strikingly similar to that of Pliny the Younger. It is a much smaller beer and is of course not all that similar to PtY otherwise, but the hops are similar.

    For the Elder, just go to your local homebrew store and buy some whole cone hops and a nylon hops bag. Boil some water and add the hops, and you will have something similar in no time.
  26. mhksuccess

    mhksuccess Zealot (584) Jul 7, 2012 California
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    La Cumbre Elevated IPA is definitely up there with pliny but than again not so easy to get
    and yes I agree that Heady Topper is better but
    you also have to mention Alpine Duet and Nelson both which are hard to get unless you drive to the brewery
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  27. Siggy125

    Siggy125 Devotee (460) Nov 10, 2006 California
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    more than I have time to type out here...
  28. PsilohsaiBiN

    PsilohsaiBiN Defender (614) Aug 10, 2010 New York
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    Hop Stoopid tastes like Pliny, but the aftertaste is like soap. Sucks is better than both of them. Pliny has insane carbonation though.
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  29. pecsokak

    pecsokak Initiate (0) Sep 27, 2012 Virginia

    i wasn't a huge fan of lagunitas sucks. enjoy by was very good, but if you haven't gotten it yet you will probably have some trouble.

    i liked PTE, but it wasn't leaps and bounds above anything. IMO once you get to a certain goodness, whichever is better is nothing but personal preference. SN hoptinum is very good, NB super IPA was good (don't think its around anymore though).

    hopslam is being released here tomorrow as well, so thats probably worth checking out
  30. cavedave

    cavedave Poo-Bah (2,412) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Based on your distro from seekabrew,com I recommend Finest Kind, Hopslam, Sucks, Ghandi Bot, and Double Simcoe. These are all really good, but none have the hop profile of Pliny.

    You have access to CCB, so trading for any of the other great ones should be easy for you.
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  31. checktherhyme

    checktherhyme Initiate (154) Apr 8, 2008 Washington

    Im going to echo others and say either Stoopid or Sucks (fresh as always). Neither of them are Pliny, but I think that they are about equally as good, and they have similar characteristics (tropical, resiny, residual sweetness, West Coast). Washington recently lost our distribution from Russian River and I havent missed it much yet, with Sucks being around.
  32. mmikey8

    mmikey8 Disciple (305) Aug 2, 2012 California
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    In your area, just get Jai-Alai
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  33. ToddThompson

    ToddThompson Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2012 North Carolina

    Try "Ninja versus Unicorn" from Pipeworks Brewing in Chicago.
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  34. chocosushi

    chocosushi Initiate (0) May 1, 2011 Oklahoma

    Extremely fresh Sculpin.
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  35. WickedSluggy

    WickedSluggy Devotee (400) Nov 21, 2008 Texas
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    Lagunitas Sucks is similar in the intensity of the hops flavor. But the characteristics of the hops used are different. It is danker and not as grapfruity. But both push the hops right up to the edge.

    There are beers that go over the edge to the rhelm of over-hopped and vegital. Avery Maharaja (which used to be my favorite beer) is now always a bit too vegital. Taste a little like willow bark and pumpkin. I haven't had really good Maharaja since 2009. OB Gubna is a sickening mess of an IIPA that tastes like spinach and onions - overly hopped and a poor combination of late additions.
  36. cjoc83

    cjoc83 Aspirant (282) Jul 31, 2010 Pennsylvania
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    I've never had PtE, but if it's crazy hoppy goodness you're after, go grab some Nugget Nectar.
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  37. Revenant

    Revenant Aspirant (280) Aug 8, 2012 Minnesota

    Hop Stupid is NOTHING like PTE in every sense of the word. Horrible comparison IMHO.
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  38. emsjf

    emsjf Initiate (0) Jan 3, 2012 Virginia

    Maine's Lunch IPA is east coast PtE, IMO, but it's probably harder to find. : /
  39. BMMillsy

    BMMillsy Poo-Bah (2,310) Feb 16, 2012 Florida
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    I'm not sure I could tell the difference between Pliny, Dreadnaught, and Double Jack if tasted blind together. I don't know FW's distribution and 3F tends to be on the tougher side to find.
  40. tectactoe

    tectactoe Initiate (0) Mar 20, 2012 Michigan

    While I don't agree that Hop Stoopid tastes much like PtE, it is a goddamn fantastic IPA, and if OP hasn't had it, he/she needs to get his/her hands on some ASAP.

    The closest I've come to tasting another Pliny would either be Stone Enjoy By, Lagunitas Sucks, or Kuhnhenn DRIPA, in that order. Though they are all discernibly different, they aren't bad "replacements" for those who have no/limited access to PtE.
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