Crowned King of the Founders fleet of offerings...

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  1. buzzedup

    buzzedup Devotee (428) Dec 21, 2006 Pennsylvania

    Was really thinking about all the great beers Founders has to offer throughout the year, with all there delicious seasonal and special releases. I personally love the Breakfast stout, Backwoods Bastard and the Kentucky Breakfast stout, let alone Double Trouble and Devil Dancer, Dark Penance and the Harvest Ale …. But I would have to say there Imperial stout is at the top of the heap . What is your favorite Founders offering?? Who would you crown king of Founders ?
     
  2. denver10

    denver10 Poo-Bah (2,956) Nov 17, 2010 New Mexico
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    Founders Breakfast Stout or KBS...flip a coin.
     
  3. bcp5296d

    bcp5296d Initiate (0) Aug 7, 2012 North Carolina

    Imperial Stout out of the seasonal offerings.
     
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  4. PVMT

    PVMT Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2014 New York

    For the regular releases, I have to give the nod to their Porter. It doesn't seem to ever get its due.
     
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  5. Brew33

    Brew33 Initiate (0) Oct 24, 2007 Ohio

    Backwoods Bastard and it's not particularly close.
     
  6. FaradayUncaged

    FaradayUncaged Initiate (0) Oct 24, 2014 Michigan

    Based on my ratings, Backwoods is at the top. However, Double Trouble is definitely more in my normal "go to" range (I could drink that every day whereas something like Backwoods or Breakfast stout requires the mood to be right).

    In terms of all-year releases, Centennial is a beer fridge staple.
     
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  7. AdmiralOzone

    AdmiralOzone Poo-Bah (2,146) Jun 26, 2014 Minnesota
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    Love KBS, but it's so hard to get. Felt lucky getting 5 bottle last year. Ended up getting 2 cases of Backwoods Bastard, so I crown a bastard king. :sunglasses:
     
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  8. THANAT0PSIS

    THANAT0PSIS Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2010 Wisconsin

    For limiteds/seasonals, Backwoods by a landslide, though FIS and FBS are both very, very good, and Curmudgeon is under-hyped. KBS is highly overrated. Double Trouble, Dark Penance, Devil Dancer, and Harvest are just okay by current IIPA, black IPA, TIPA, and wet IPA standards (the latter tastes like boozy hop water, and not in a good way). Rubaeus is a sweet, medicinal mess.

    As for regulars, Porter and Dirty Bastard are both awesome, but I just really don't care for how Founders does hoppy beers, so Centennial, All Day, and Pale Ale are never-buys for me. I did like Red's Rye quite a bit though.
     
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  9. LambicPentameter

    LambicPentameter Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2012 Nebraska

    It's hard to disagree with FIS, and if you want to get technical about it, that one has the highest score out of all the Founders beers I've rated. But when we're talking a difference of tenths of a decimal point, it's pretty negligible, so I could easily be persuaded to pick Backwoods or Red's Rye as my favorite. Here are my top 10 Founders beers by rating:
    1. FIS - 4.73
    2. Backwoods - 4.58
    3. Red's Rye - 4.54
    4. KBS - 4.43
    5. FBS - 4.40
    6. Porter - 4.28
    7. Harvest - 4.24
    8. Double Trouble - 4.18
    9. Centennial - 4.16
    10. Old Curmudgeon - 4.13
     
  10. glass_house

    glass_house Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2014 Ohio

    KBS & Backwoods would be neck and neck for me, with Imperial Stout and Breakfast Stout just a notch below. And Dirty Bastard, and Devil Dancer, and Curmudgeon. And Double Trouble, and Red Rye. Damn you, Founders, you peddlers of so many delicious beers.
     
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  11. SeanBond

    SeanBond Meyvn (1,092) Jul 30, 2013 Illinois
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    I'm one of the few people who doesn't like coffee-forward stouts, so yes, I'd agree with you that their fantastic standard imperial stout is their best beer. It's probably 2nd or 3rd for me when it comes to non-BA stouts (first being Darkness, second possibly being Dark Lord).
     
  12. buzzedup

    buzzedup Devotee (428) Dec 21, 2006 Pennsylvania

    OO... could you imagine a KBRIS from founders . my mouth is salivating
     
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  13. kdb150

    kdb150 Initiate (0) Mar 8, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Backwoods is easily the king, because there are few if any analogues out there, and the ones that exist either aren't very good, or aren't very available. Meanwhile, every other Founders offering except possibly Breakfast Stout have analogues that are as good if not better, or like Devil Dancer and Rubaeus are downright bad.
     
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  14. CraftFan5

    CraftFan5 Meyvn (1,005) May 14, 2013 New Jersey
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    I like what you did here, my friendly trading partner. I'll do the same:

    1. KBS - 4.85
    2. Curmudgeon - 4.75
    3. Backwoods - 4.65
    4 (tie). FIS - 4.25
    4 (tie). Mosaic - 4.25
    6. FBS - 4.15
    7. Dark Penance - 4.00

    Everything else I rated below a 4.
     
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  15. EveningCordial

    EveningCordial Initiate (0) Apr 29, 2014 New Jersey

    Backwoods and KBS
     
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  16. Tsar_Riga

    Tsar_Riga Poo-Bah (2,554) Sep 9, 2013 Indiana
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    FBS - and it's not close.
     
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  17. FatBoyGotSwagger

    FatBoyGotSwagger Poo-Bah (1,776) Apr 4, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Depending on what I feel like drinking at the time It would be either

    Breakfast Stout-Drinks like a champ in the morning and in snowstorms

    Imperial Stout- Late night or cold weather, yes please

    Backwoods Bastard-In the mood to taste some barrel or have something to celebrate oh yeah

    And last but not least Founders Porter, Could be the most versatile drinking of the bunch and just fantastic overall.

    So uh a royal family of sorts rather than a Monarch.
     
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  18. Treyliff

    Treyliff Poo-Bah (4,575) Aug 10, 2010 West Virginia
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    KBS & FBS are two of my top 5 beers.
     
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  19. russpowell

    russpowell Poo-Bah (10,613) May 24, 2005 Arkansas
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    KBS, Backwoods, Harvest & Breakfast Stout are all world class IMHO
     
  20. mackeyse

    mackeyse Initiate (0) Aug 21, 2012 New York

    Wulver and CW BA Scotch Ale kindly disagree (and the latter is cheaper and easier to find than Backwoods, at least by me)
     
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  21. JamesShoemaker

    JamesShoemaker Initiate (0) Sep 21, 2012 Michigan

    Dirty Bastard effectively saved Canal Street Brewing Co., which later became Founders, from bankruptcy, so I would say that it is "king," though "admiral" is more appropriate if we're talking about a fleet.

    In terms of my personal tastes, Backwoods is my favorite beer that they make.
     
  22. Kadonny

    Kadonny Meyvn (1,374) Sep 5, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    KBS is their best beer, hands down. Second best is probably Harvest and third is Breakfast Stout. Their most underrated beer is Curmudgeon for sure. God, what great beers.
     
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  23. kwakwhore

    kwakwhore Initiate (0) Nov 1, 2004 North Carolina

    KBS
    Breakfast Stout
    Imperial Stout
    in that order for me.
     
  24. Buschyfor3

    Buschyfor3 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2009 Kentucky

    FBS.

    I would say KBS (I did rate it higher after all...) but I give FBS the nod because.... gasp.... you can ACTUALLY FIND IT!

    I haven't seen KBS on a shelf in a bottle shop/liquor store/grocery store around here in the better part of the last 2 years. In fact, the last time I saw a bottle was at a Whole Foods back in 2012. And it's not like I live in the podunks... Louisville is a big city with a number of bottle shops that have deep craft lineups. Just never can find it. So for that reason I have to give it to FBS. I could practically be swimming in FBS right now - cases a plenty all over town.
     
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  25. Dupage25

    Dupage25 Initiate (0) Jul 4, 2013 Antarctica

    I've never had or even seen KBS. Actually, sad and embarrassed to say this, there's quite a few Founders staples I've never had. The porter, Double Trouble, Red's Rye, Pale. Of the one's I've had I would probably say it's a tie between FBS on draft and Backwoods Bastard in the bottle, with Dirty Bastard in second place. Not a fan of their Imperial Stout and I think Devil Dancer is disgusting. Curmudgeon is really inconsistent.

    Would really like to try KBS someday and I hope they remake CBS at some point. Apart from those, the one Founders beer I was really hoping to get my hands on was Sweet Repute.
     
  26. zp6167a

    zp6167a Initiate (0) Apr 19, 2011 District of Columbia

    It's a tough call, but I think I'd have to go with Backwoods Bastard. Though I really enjoy KBS, Old Curmudgeon, and yes Devil Dancer.
     
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  27. tylerstravis

    tylerstravis Initiate (0) Feb 14, 2014 Colorado

    Is it too late to add a poll??
     
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  28. grahuba

    grahuba Savant (902) Feb 14, 2011 Connecticut

    KBS Get's my vote. Awesome on tap...
     
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  29. moshea

    moshea Initiate (0) Jul 16, 2007 Michigan

    Do you get good Founders distribution in Antarctica?
     
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  30. MisSigsFan

    MisSigsFan Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2013 California

    I wanna say he's not actually from Antarctica haha. Dupage is in IL.
     
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  31. bcp5296d

    bcp5296d Initiate (0) Aug 7, 2012 North Carolina

    Honestly I think Rubaus is actually pretty good in the right setting. I think if America wasn't pushing out fruited sours left and right it would get more attention. That said, new glarus stuff blows Rubaeus out of the water.
     
  32. robear

    robear Initiate (0) May 24, 2014 Wisconsin

    For me it's Imperial Stout, Porter, Harvest Ale. Those three beers are superb examples of oft-brewed styles and in my book, they're each in the top 3 for their style nation-wide.
     
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  33. Hrodebert

    Hrodebert Aspirant (265) Sep 2, 2013 Michigan
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    Another vote for Backwoods Bastard being way out in front.
     
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  34. EricTKole

    EricTKole Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2014 Michigan

    It's coming back and it's called Black Rye.

    1. Backwoods
    2. Harvest Ale
    3. KBS
    4. Breakfast Stout
    5. Red's Rye
    6. Curmudgeon
    7. All Day
    8. Imperial Stout
    9. Nirto Oatmeal Stout
    10. Porter

    Additionally one off this year that I've had that make my mouth salivate thinking about include:

    1. BA Red's Rye
    2. Panther Cub
    3. Pumpkinmudgeon
    4. Mosaic Promise
    5. Mackinaw Fudge Donkey Stout
     
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  35. Rkish22

    Rkish22 Initiate (0) Mar 9, 2014 Georgia

    1. KBS
    2. Backwoods
    3. FBS
    4. Harvest Ale

    I think #1-3 switch spots on a daily basis for me.
     
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  36. chcfan

    chcfan Initiate (0) Oct 29, 2008 California

    My all time favorite is a toss up between Nemesis '09 and fresh CBS
    Of the seasonals, I would give the nod to Backwoods over KBS since it ages better.
     
  37. moshea

    moshea Initiate (0) Jul 16, 2007 Michigan

    I figured that as well, but you never know, they do have internet and 5,000 people in Antarctica. One of them might be a BA :slight_smile:
     
  38. FlakyBiscuit

    FlakyBiscuit Initiate (0) Sep 11, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Total agreement here. The Porter is exceptional IMO
     
  39. Dupage25

    Dupage25 Initiate (0) Jul 4, 2013 Antarctica

    I move about between the east coast and Illinois. Would love to see Antarctica some day, not sure about actually living there...
     
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  40. Young_John

    Young_John Initiate (0) Sep 22, 2014 New York

    I drink stouts above all else. That said, my favorite among the Founders stouts is the Founders Imperial Stout - I lucked into two four packs of these out of season and finished 6 before I knew how long I'd have to wait to find 'em again. I assume they cellar well - as old as they were, they immediately became my favorite imperial stout. Big nod to the KBS though. It's just too hard to find and too expensive to be more than a once a year treat for me.
     
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