CTZ Hop blend....Yea or Nay

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  1. Boonedog

    Boonedog Initiate (0) Apr 10, 2013 Illinois

  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    CTZ isn't a blend. It's a way of acknowledging that Columbus, Tomahawk, and Zeus are all the same cultivar, so they are interchangeable.

    Edit: forgot to add... I have used Columbus. Probably the most 'piney' of the 'C' hops, IMO.
     
  3. udubdawg

    udubdawg Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2006 Kansas

    I use them all the time. However this is not a blend. They are the same hop with different names so often called CTZ for short. (I'm not sure if they ever determined Zeus is indeed the same as the other two, but if not they are really fricking close)

    (yeah, what he said)
     
  4. OddNotion

    OddNotion Pooh-Bah (1,915) Nov 1, 2009 New Jersey
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    Exactly this.

    Also, at $10 per lb I would snatch those up if I needed some more hops. I love the bittering properties of this hop as well as its flavor/aroma qualities when blended with others.
     
  5. GatorBeer

    GatorBeer Initiate (0) Feb 2, 2010 South Carolina

    They're my go-to bittering hop.
     
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  6. koopa

    koopa Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2008 New Jersey

    If you have the option, I recommend paying $14 per pound just about anywhere for the new 2013 crop when it comes out in 2 months. If you don't have that option, I'd certainly rather pay $10 per pound for last years crop than $1.50 per oz for last years crop.
     
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  7. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    I bought CTZ 2012 for that much from another supplier about 3 months ago. Used them with Chinook and Simcoe in an Imp Red IPA, really good. CTZ (depending on which you get the C, the T, or the Z) is usually fairly dank and pungent with a fruity kick. I get berries from the batch I got. Good for bittering to, I believe that RR uses it to bitter alongside the extract in Pliny.
     
  8. Boonedog

    Boonedog Initiate (0) Apr 10, 2013 Illinois

    Thanks for the knowledge. Nice to get corrected when being stupid without the usual snark you get elsewhere.

    Yea. Looking for an all-purpose hop to use the rest of summer while I try and nail down my process/efficiency with all-grain....

    Thanks.:stuck_out_tongue:
     
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  9. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    For my palate the CTZ hops have a flavor/aroma of dank; it is not a flavor I am particularly fond of. For this reason I personally do not homebrew with them.

    Of course you could use them for bittering but I typically use hops like Warrior and Magnum since they are higher alpha hops.

    I have read numerous posts where folks combine CTZ with other hops for flavor/aroma additions and they enjoy those beers. If I were to use CTZ later in the boil I would combine them with other hops.

    For those of you who like dank then a CTZ hop addition for flavor and/or aroma is the way to go in my opinion.

    Cheers!
     
  10. koopa

    koopa Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2008 New Jersey

    For that purpose, I think last years CTZ at $10 per pound is the perfect choice. My main worry was that it was going to take you a year to get through the pound using it only as a bittering hop or something (although I do enjoy dry hopping with columbus myself). If so, your year old CTZ would be 2 years old when you finally got through it. With your accelerated use plan, you are getting to take advantage of a good deal with minimal draw back.
     
  11. telejunkie

    telejunkie Savant (1,107) Sep 14, 2007 Vermont

    most definitely a yea vote from me.
    It is pretty much a mainstay in my hop forward beers. I can guarantee you that if you're a hophead that a decent percentage of your favorite commercial ipas & dipas are brewed with CTZ late in the boil. Here is a small pool of brewers with CTZ in their most acclaimed IPAs: Russian River, Bear Republic, Hill Farmstead, AleSmith, Green Flash just to name a few.
     
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