Current BOTTLES available at the shop (Hill Farmstead)

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  1. wentgin

    wentgin Initiate (0) May 24, 2013 Pennsylvania

    anything new today?
     
  2. vonnegut21

    vonnegut21 Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2012 New York

    Nope. Just CD7 and the guest stuff.
     
  3. Corbet

    Corbet Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2010 Michigan

    Any idea how long CD7 will last on the shelves?
     
  4. bahnfire

    bahnfire Initiate (0) Jan 17, 2011 Vermont

    It appears to have just been removed from the website. That likely means it either just ran out, or it won't last long tomorrow.
     
  5. scotv

    scotv Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2013 New York

    anyone ever get the total bottle count on CD7?
     
  6. brownswisscow

    brownswisscow Initiate (0) Feb 9, 2012 Vermont

    safe assumption it was only a single barrel batch based on the contents.
     
  7. MasterCraft

    MasterCraft Initiate (0) Sep 2, 2012 Massachusetts


    Why is that? Wasn't it described as 'a blend of Art (2 years in barrels) with 2 year old unblended lambic'?
     
  8. aandresen

    aandresen Initiate (91) Sep 21, 2009 Arizona
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    So close, my wife is going to HF tomorrow. Double Citra will have to be my consolation prize.
     
  9. Sean802

    Sean802 Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2013 Vermont

    I want to say the same plural use of barrel was used in the description of DBD.
     
  10. MasterCraft

    MasterCraft Initiate (0) Sep 2, 2012 Massachusetts


    But saying "port and bourbon barrels" makes grammatical sense even it was first in one port barrel, then in one bourbon barrel. CD7 is also Art mixed with a lambic so the total batch is going to be significantly larger than the yield from one barrel of Art, even if only one barrel was used (which doesn't seem to be the case).
     
  11. justforrazors

    justforrazors Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2013 Missouri
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    Let me break this down for you nice and simple, using bullet points and stuff.
    • Barrels are made of wood. Due to this, they do this thing known as evaporation. Super cool, huh? That means that while they may have started with 47-55 gallons of Art, it will certainly end up with less. Approximately 10% evaporates per year, leaving us with probably 40 gallons of Art per barrel.

    • Shaun doesn't like to release all of his beer. He tends to hold on to a large portion for himself, releasing silently at a later point, and most likely for sale in house only once he opens a brewpub. (It's happening...just wait.)

    • The Civil Disobedience series is made by blending. Most likely, they took 1 or 2 Art barrels (probably 4 maximum) and blended them in with the 40-50 gallons of 2 year old Cantillon to taste. The barrels probably didn't taste the same, and to get the ratio they desired most likely meant using an uneven ratio. I would bet that at best, out of 150-200 gallons of base beer to blend, they got 1500-2000 and blended some barrels together for a future release.
    • The current ratio being thrown around is 80% Art to 20% Cantillon. Lets assume that they had 40 gallons of Cantillon and 160 gallons of Art to blend. This gives us 200 gallons, or 2000 375 mL bottles. That would be a HUGE limited release from HF, on par with most of their regular saisons.
    • This beer stayed on the shelves for 7 days. Based on that, and the fact that no big releases from Lawsons coincided with their release, they most likely put 500 bottles or less on for sale.
    • I would be surprised if Shaun didn't hold on to a large amount of this release, considering it is obviously sought after, and I bet he wants to save a bunch to drink, release later for locals/Vermonters, and to have several cases on hand for when he opens the brewpub.
    Okay- based on my stupid ass post, here is what I think. The numbers I am using are generous. Most likely, Shaun used 20 gallons of Cantillon and 80 gallons of Art, holding on to more Cantillon to blend with beers in the future. He is kind of a hoarder, so that makes sense. At 100 gallons, we have 600 bottles for the release. Shaun probably kept 4-6 cases, leaving us common folk with 400-450 bottles, probably a solid estimate for a release such as this.
     
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  12. justforrazors

    justforrazors Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2013 Missouri
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    Also, correcting myself before anyone else can: 100 gallons is approx 1000 bottles. Still, 600 bottles most likely saw the shelves, and Shaun kept the rest for future endeavors. Sorry for the math mistake, it happens.
     
  13. MasterCraft

    MasterCraft Initiate (0) Sep 2, 2012 Massachusetts

    tl;dr. All I'm saying is the numbers being mentioned here sound like wild speculation, and "safe assumption it was only a single barrel batch based on the contents" struck me as an odd thing to say, and still does.
     
  14. wentgin

    wentgin Initiate (0) May 24, 2013 Pennsylvania

    Ugh. Have had a trip planned for months to go up this weekend. Do I have a prayer of another bottle hitting the shelf Friday? Seems with the silent releases, more stuff has been becoming available, but it's mid-week now. Bummer, but growlers will be consolation, I'm sure.
     
  15. BoldRulerVT

    BoldRulerVT Initiate (0) Oct 2, 2013 Vermont

    He is obviously expanding and is putting in a large retail building next to the brewhouse, but where are you getting that he is going to be opening a full on brew-pub?
     
  16. scotv

    scotv Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2013 New York

    recently made a reference on twitter
     
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  17. brownswisscow

    brownswisscow Initiate (0) Feb 9, 2012 Vermont

    How much 2yo art do you suspect there is?
    My speculation was based on how much they were putting into barrels 2 years ago, what has already been released, prior batch sizes, etc...could it be two or three barrels? Sure.

    I don't care as I only have 1 to drink.
     
  18. cfrances33

    cfrances33 Crusader (776) Jun 12, 2012 Illinois


    600 bottles put on shelf
     
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  19. vonnegut21

    vonnegut21 Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2012 New York

    Based on the length of time it lasted (5 days at my count, and possibly not all of the 5th?), I would have put it a bit lower, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were 600. I assume your source is better than mine.
     
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  20. cfrances33

    cfrances33 Crusader (776) Jun 12, 2012 Illinois


    For the record, I'm unsure if 600 is total bottle count, or shelf bottle count. I agree, it may be safe to assume 600 is a total bottle count.
     
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  21. vonnegut21

    vonnegut21 Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2012 New York

    My thought based on how long this one lasted in comparison to how long Flora lasted (700 bottles on the shelf(1000 total less 300 for the DBD release) with Damon also on the shelf and it lasted a week longer) made me think the shelf count was lower. But completely conjecture. And not nearly as entertaining of conjecture as justforrazors :wink:
     
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  22. jamvt

    jamvt Devotee (401) Aug 5, 2005 Massachusetts
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    there still seemed to be plenty of CD7 on the shelf today. picked up a bottle around 1pm. pretty quiet today too.
     
  23. wentgin

    wentgin Initiate (0) May 24, 2013 Pennsylvania


    Shhhh! Need this to last til tomorrow afternoon.

    (Thanks for the update, though. This makes me even more excited to get up there tomorrow.)
     
  24. mani

    mani Initiate (0) Jun 16, 2012 New Jersey

    Also saw, tastings are back
     
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  25. BabyTree

    BabyTree Initiate (139) Dec 16, 2011 Massachusetts

    Anyone know if there's still cd7 on the shelf (or anything new)? Planning to head up for tomorrow mid-afternoon
     
  26. celfan

    celfan Initiate (0) Jul 4, 2004 Vermont

    he told me this. said he was going to have strippers too
     
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  27. amnesia85

    amnesia85 Initiate (0) Mar 31, 2012 Connecticut
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    Is he out sourcing dancers or using locals...
     
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  28. pendabev

    pendabev Aspirant (232) Jan 6, 2004 New York


    Non-Vermonters have to dance for their beer.
     
  29. wentgin

    wentgin Initiate (0) May 24, 2013 Pennsylvania

    No CD7. Major bummer. Apparently they had "around 30" bottles on the shelf yesterday even though they emphasized that it'd been taken off the website on Wednesday (which we were aware of). Those were all gone by 12:30.

    I get not wanting to do releases and deal with the insanity of hundreds of people in line, but I have to say after traveling all the way up from NYC, I can't help but be somewhat disappointed. Meanwhile, there were unopened bottles (including Double Barrel Damon) just kind of sitting around on the other side of the tasting room. Wish there was a happier medium.
     
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  30. Skrip

    Skrip Defender (638) Oct 7, 2012 New Jersey
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    looks like Arthur will be on the shelf this week
    [​IMG]
     
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  31. wentgin

    wentgin Initiate (0) May 24, 2013 Pennsylvania

    Sigh...
     
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  32. Skrip

    Skrip Defender (638) Oct 7, 2012 New Jersey
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    awww JV =[ your growlers are here!
     
  33. rozzom

    rozzom Meyvn (1,076) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    Sounds like great water.

    Can't wait for my next HF trip.
     
  34. acolby

    acolby Initiate (0) Dec 12, 2008 Pennsylvania

    I'll be up next Thursday-Saturday. Should be awesome.
     
  35. jbertsch

    jbertsch Poo-Bah (1,621) Dec 14, 2008 Massachusetts
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    Stopped by today, and in addition to Arthur, Norma was on the shelf...1 per. Sounded like there was one case left when I left around 3:00 and it wasn't too busy.
     
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  36. vonnegut21

    vonnegut21 Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2012 New York

    Interesting....

    No mention on the site, is there a limit on Arthur?
     
  37. Skrip

    Skrip Defender (638) Oct 7, 2012 New Jersey
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    they've been doing some what secret "cellar" releases here and there
     
  38. jbertsch

    jbertsch Poo-Bah (1,621) Dec 14, 2008 Massachusetts
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    Yeah it was a nice surprise. I almost wondered if it was consolation for only having 4 drafts available because one of their kegerator compressors was down. I didn't quite catch if Arthur had a limit, sorry. I only asked for one of each in the first place. I just caught that Norma had a 1 bottle limit when someone else asked for multiples of that one specifically.
     
  39. POTABLE83

    POTABLE83 Initiate (0) Jun 21, 2012 New York

    Shaun mentioned on Twitter that "reason" is the limit on Arthur
     
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  40. pisano

    pisano Zealot (555) Sep 18, 2007 Massachusetts
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    Read on twitter that there's no limit on Arthur....within reason.
     
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