Daisy Cutter v. Zombie Dust "Battle Round"

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  1. GRG1313

    GRG1313 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,738) Jan 15, 2009 California
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    I hate these kinds of threads! In fact, I'm only doing this because of my conclusion.

    I brought home a "big old" Texas style BBQ beef rib and heated it up for dinner a short time ago. There staring me in the face was a new can of Daisy Cutter that a friend has just sent to me. I popped it and it was just perfect! Going back to the fridge for something to add to the plate, I saw a Zombie Dust. Well, the rest just had to happen.

    I poured them side by side just for kicks (and since both are the same style, designated a pale ale.)

    Daisy Cutter is about perfect in all ways with the flavor profile/finish element being a fresh wonderful bitter hop character of pine and grapefruit skin; a hint of "wood bitter."

    Zombie Dust is about perfect in all ways with the flavor profile/finish element being a fresh wonderful bitter hop character of primarily an almost fruit "sweet/bitter"; a hint of "grapefruit skin."

    Conclusion: This is a perfect tie. No kidding. Two of the best beers on the planet, different primarily in a "taste" component. Both perfect in just about every way. (Like two great ice creams perfectly made, one being vanilla and one being chocolate. Can you really compare one being "better" than the other, or might you simply concluse both great and perhaps you might have a flavor preference??)

    I really enjoyed my beef rib. I really enjoyed both wonderful beers.

    Just my opinon.
     
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  2. atomic

    atomic Initiate (0) Sep 22, 2009 Illinois

    As a huge fan of local beers (half acre is brewed 2 miles from me) I've never really been super into Daisy Cutter. Zombie Dust though... Thats a beast of a different color. I'd drink that any time.
     
  3. Etan

    Etan Initiate (0) Jul 11, 2011 Wisconsin

    Daisy Cutter, like a lot of Half Acre pale ales, is way too dry and grassy. Pretty boring beer, in my opinion. I much prefer Zombie Dust.
     
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  4. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Tough to beat ZD.
     
  5. BrownAleMale

    BrownAleMale Initiate (0) Dec 14, 2011 Wisconsin

    I agree with the crew. Daisy Cutter is no where near ZD
     
  6. Keffa

    Keffa Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2009 Ohio

    Look at the hate for DC...

    Personally, I like them both, and regardless, I wouldn't turn either of them down. Two different styles of the same style.
     
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  7. beercanman

    beercanman Initiate (0) Dec 17, 2012 Ohio

  8. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,083) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Just did my first all citra pale ale and I think Citra cannot be beat for how it works in a single hop pale ale.

    Zombie Dust has Daisy Cutter for breakfast all day every day and twice on Sunday.

    Now Head Hunter and White Rajah? Those would be worthy to do side by side with ZD.
     
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  9. time4lunch

    time4lunch Crusader (420) Aug 10, 2012 New Hampshire
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    Zd> diasy cutter
     
  10. kzoobrew

    kzoobrew Initiate (0) May 8, 2006 Michigan

    I would be happy to have access to both of them on a regular basis.

    I thought the Citra was more muted than I remember, definitely not as prominent as I would have wished.
     
  11. TheMonkfish

    TheMonkfish Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2012 Chad

    Totally agree. I've done a couple all Citra batches and it totally stands up to other/more complex pale ales.
     
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  12. beercanman

    beercanman Initiate (0) Dec 17, 2012 Ohio

    The bottles i had were surprising to me. Did a side by side and neither could out do the other I thought. Its the closest I have found yet.
     
  13. VitoFerrante

    VitoFerrante Initiate (0) Sep 11, 2012 Pennsylvania

    These are two beers you really need to experience. Either would make anyone a beer drinker... Even my mother-in-law. DC is awesome, so is ZD. In a blind test, it maybe hard to tell the difference at times. I have had many batches of both and at times, one may be better than the other. I like DC because of the can and availability, but ZD just has something about it..... The beer gods of Munster know how to make a beer people dream about.
     
  14. HopChef44

    HopChef44 Initiate (0) Mar 10, 2013 Massachusetts

    If someone would kindly send me a DC I would be happy to weigh in on this one. As of now, ZD is in a class of its own. I would drink it every night if I had the chance.
     
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  15. Gotti311

    Gotti311 Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2009 Wisconsin
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    We did a blinded tasting and those two beers came in first and second. Zombie Dust scored a perfect score and all 5 judges agreed that it was the best APA in the challenge. Daisy Cutter is fantastic, but it is a tier below Zombie Dust. Blinded APA Tasting Results
     
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  16. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,376) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    Wish I could try just one of them, let alone both...:slight_frown:
     
  17. HokiesandBeer

    HokiesandBeer Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2013 Pennsylvania

    Exactly how I'd describe Daisy Cutter....not even comparable to Zombie Dust.
     
  18. MrRockstar

    MrRockstar Initiate (0) Sep 9, 2006 Pennsylvania

    Daisy Cutter is good, but Zombie Dust for the easy win
     
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  19. falcon1

    falcon1 Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2006 Ohio

    Without any doubt, what so ever, Zombie Dust hands down!
     
  20. rhartogsq

    rhartogsq Initiate (0) Jun 18, 2010 Virginia

    I wouldn't kick either out of bed!

    Probably go with Zombie Dust on a slight edge
     
  21. RobertColianni

    RobertColianni Pooh-Bah (1,643) Nov 4, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    I question how many of you are voting for Zombie Dust over Daisy Cutter for the simple fact that one is somewhat of a chase and the other is readily available at all times in most markets. I say this, because I say over and over that Daisy Cutter on tap is the best Pale Ale I've every had and in my opinion the best Pale Ale in the world, right now. It's a Summer day at noon with a freshly cut lawn and a cool breeze at 86 degrees. I swear, the chase factor goes to many of your heads as meaning the beer is better. Zombie Dust is great, but Daisy Cutter just shits on cats.
     
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  22. RBassSFHOPit2ME

    RBassSFHOPit2ME Initiate (0) Mar 1, 2009 California
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    Knee Deep's CITRA Pale is one of the worst pales I've had. Didn't do the Citra hop justice by any means.
     
  23. HokiesandBeer

    HokiesandBeer Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2013 Pennsylvania

    Nope. I've had just as much ZD as DC and I just find ZD tastes so much better, DC comes across too grassy while I love the citra flavor in the ZD. My personal opinion though.
     
  24. StoutSnob40

    StoutSnob40 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,455) Jan 4, 2013 California
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    Never had Daisy Cutter, but I have a hard time imagining many beers of that style that are better than Zombie Dust.
     
  25. Infinite1

    Infinite1 Initiate (0) Jul 2, 2010 Illinois

    I like Daisy Cutter better..

    Also prefer Gumballhead over Zombie Dust
     
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  26. stevegoz

    stevegoz Savant (1,098) May 5, 2008 Illinois
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    Half Acre's distribution sucks. They won't even go to the south side, let along the western suburbs. Zombie Dust is a lot easier for me to obtain -- two stores I frequent get deliveries almost every week.

    So my massive preference for ZD over DC has nothing to do with "the hunt."
     
  27. Infinite1

    Infinite1 Initiate (0) Jul 2, 2010 Illinois

    Same issue for me on the Daisy Cutter issue, but I drive into the city 1-2 times a month so I stock up
     
  28. pintobean

    pintobean Initiate (0) Sep 16, 2011 Illinois

    I love drinking the 16oz cans of DC riding around on the lawnmower, it's a great citrusy, crisp pale. One of my favorite pales. ZD is an IPA, so not in the same category, but I love it as well...I'm a Citra whore. I have a hard time writing a homebrew recipe without it in there somewhere.
     
  29. mecummins

    mecummins Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2012 Illinois

    I'm a huge DC fan. But honestly, they're both amazing beers and I wouldn't turn down either. DC is just more convenient to buy (like walk down the street convenient.) I personally think that the dry quality of DC makes it easier to pair with a wider variety of foods too.
     
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  30. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2010 California

    I like Zombie Dust much, much better than Daisy Cutter.
     
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  31. GuzzLah

    GuzzLah Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2013 Illinois

    Totally different beers. I prefer Daisy Cutter.

    ZD is volatile. Sometimes it tastes great. Sometimes it doesn't. The ratings are jacked up by marketing.
     
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  32. spicoli00

    spicoli00 Pooh-Bah (2,169) Jul 6, 2005 Indiana
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    Shewolf. Boom!

    on this site it's listed as brewed by .5 acre but really a collab between .5 acre and FFF.
     
  33. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,142) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    St. Lupulin is the answer.
     
  34. VitoFerrante

    VitoFerrante Initiate (0) Sep 11, 2012 Pennsylvania

    I agree. There have been times I opened a fresh bottle and wondered what happened. They are both awesome beers!!!
     
  35. youngac

    youngac Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2005 North Carolina

    ZD is so out of Daisy Cutters league (IMO) that this isn't a fair fight at all. This is the equivalent of Mike Tyson in his prime boxing Urkel.
     
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  36. SaisonRichBiere

    SaisonRichBiere Pooh-Bah (1,959) Mar 23, 2011 Michigan
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    Odd Side Citra Pale Ale swings the axe on both of them.
     
  37. midnitesun11

    midnitesun11 Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2013 California

    Chicago rules!
     
  38. siege06nd

    siege06nd Pooh-Bah (1,791) Dec 29, 2009 Virginia
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    Unless Daisy Cutter dramatically altered their recipe in the last year, then this is a battle in the same way that Little Big Horn was a battle.
     
  39. ChugginOil

    ChugginOil Initiate (0) Sep 23, 2010 Illinois

    The Dust is the ruler of all
     
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  40. jeffmeunier

    jeffmeunier Initiate (0) Apr 29, 2013 Indiana

    ZD rules! Not even close.
     
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