Dark Lord Day 2012 Rule Changes

Discussion in 'Great Lakes' started by Lansman, Mar 2, 2012.

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  1. bierenutz

    bierenutz Initiate (0) Jan 21, 2010 Michigan
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    Mark, borrow a laptop and see you at Kuhnhenns!
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  2. TapeDeck

    TapeDeck Initiate (0) Mar 31, 2011 Illinois

    Not at the XV. For that it was a wait plus a lack of availability of first come first serve beers.
  3. Lansman

    Lansman Aspirant (239) Mar 19, 2011 Missouri
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    Also not pleased about the tickets going on sale at the start of Stout Fest, but last year the tickets went on sale at 1 PM, so 12 PM is certainly a little better than that.
  4. travMI13

    travMI13 Aspirant (213) Jan 7, 2012 Michigan
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    Looks like I'll be coming home from Kuhnhenn early that day. That's actually probably for the best.
  5. Lansman

    Lansman Aspirant (239) Mar 19, 2011 Missouri
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    Just announced that there will be three groups (A, B, C), just like last year.

    Could not agree more with this method of splitting up the allocation.

    Cheers to FFF for sticking with what works.
  6. maltmaster420

    maltmaster420 Aspirant (294) Aug 17, 2005 Oregon
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    Has it occured to you that they don't want 10,000 people clogging up their property? They'll sell it all either way, and if the lack of bottle sharing is enough to deter someone then maybe they're on to something.
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  7. dangle

    dangle Initiate (0) Mar 19, 2009 Michigan

    Right over your head.
  8. Ohsaycanyoubeer

    Ohsaycanyoubeer Initiate (0) Feb 8, 2012 Colorado

    If they didn't want 10k people then they would only sell tickets at the brewpub or not sell tickets at all (See Hunahpu)

    Selling them online means:

    They want people from across the country to attend
    They want the hype to remain as high as possible
    They want tickets being sold on the secondary market
  9. KzooBeerBrian

    KzooBeerBrian Initiate (0) Oct 15, 2011 Michigan

    In a sense yes they should help locals out a bit however, the guy that put aside the extra money for a how-ever-many-hour drive to and from FFF deserves that beer the same if not more than someone that can mosey on down the street for it at leisure.
  10. EliteDigger

    EliteDigger Aspirant (278) May 9, 2006 Wisconsin
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    Just curious...I see the bottle limit is per person this year and not per ticket. Yet you can buy 2 tickets per person... I'm wondering why, besides the extra pour of DL and the warm fuzzy feeling of adding more to charity, I would want to buy more than one ticket if it won't get me any more bottles?
    Yes, I understand getting 2 tickets if you're getting one for someone else. But let's say you're coming alone...all another ticket gets you is another pour of Dark Lord, not extra bottles. Certainly not worth an additional $15.

    Edit: Ok, so I went back and re-read and see I was reading last years info (I couldn't get tickets last year). So was the bottle limit per person last year? I thought I saw somewhere in this thread that it was 4 bottles per ticket last year...yet it says it was per person on DLD.com.
    Forgive me...massive amounts of cold medicine...I'm a little fuzzy...
  11. Lansman

    Lansman Aspirant (239) Mar 19, 2011 Missouri
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    Not sure it matters if it is classified as 'per ticket' or 'per person' as it would be difficult logistically for FFF to track each and every person coming through the line trying to get their allocation. Certainly there will be people (as happened last year) who go through the line, get their allocation, go out to their car, put the bottles away, and then get back in line in accordance with their other ticket (be it in the same Group, or at a later time with another Group - i.e., buy a ticket for Group A and Group B or C, get allocation with both Groups). Since getting Dark Lord in as many hands as possible is the goal of the event, this practice is likely frowned upon, but I'm not sure to what extent FFF will be policing the line to ensure each person gets only their allocation, and not a bottle more.
  12. Bluecane

    Bluecane Initiate (0) Dec 30, 2011 New York

    Late-to-the-game FYP.
  13. SpottedZombie

    SpottedZombie Initiate (0) Feb 7, 2012 Illinois

    Just buy as many tickets as you want, and then bring friends who appreciate beer, yet know nothing about DL. Have them stand in line with you, enjoy various brews while in line, talk about sports, what have you. Give each of your friends a ticket, along with $60. Multiple tickets are no longer an issue.
  14. DrWalterWhite

    DrWalterWhite Initiate (0) Jan 25, 2012 Illinois

  15. Rempo

    Rempo Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2010 Indiana

    Calendar site -> More Information -> Ticket Info
  16. TapeDeck

    TapeDeck Initiate (0) Mar 31, 2011 Illinois

    It's better than the other problems associated with these types of releases. Plus, the odds of landing as many tickets as you want are not good... they're not good even if "all the tickets you want = 1"
  17. rogueleonardi

    rogueleonardi Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Ohio

    Don't you mean ten fidy?
  18. SpottedZombie

    SpottedZombie Initiate (0) Feb 7, 2012 Illinois

    Well think about it this way... There are 6000 tickets. Let's assume the worst, and cuart that number in half (anticipating everyone trying to buy 2 tickets at once, instead of 1 at a time). That means there are 3000 unique people (or less, i.e.: me) that can purchase tickets. That means, in order for someone to get tickets, they need a connection that is at least as good as the top 2999 people who are trying to purchase tickets. In my case, I simply need to have a connection on two computers, both which are better than the top 2998 people. I also need to have very fast fingers, but that's not an issue. :grinning:

    Given that, I'd say Dark Lord tickets are relatively simple to get. Just takes the right kind of equipment.
  19. weatherdog

    weatherdog Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2007 Illinois

    In theory you are correct...in practice you are very very wrong.
  20. SpottedZombie

    SpottedZombie Initiate (0) Feb 7, 2012 Illinois

    I'm gonna Moneyball the ticket sales.
  21. yeahnatenelson

    yeahnatenelson Meyvn (1,165) Feb 8, 2010 Illinois
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    The Oakland Athletics are going to win them for you???
  22. drewba

    drewba Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2009 Illinois

    No, idiot. Brad Pitt & Jonah Hill are going to get him tickets.
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  23. SpottedZombie

    SpottedZombie Initiate (0) Feb 7, 2012 Illinois

    My bet is you don't have my equipment. Good luck acquiring your tickets, Sir!
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  24. SpottedZombie

    SpottedZombie Initiate (0) Feb 7, 2012 Illinois

    Who said anything about me using a petty dorm wi-fi?
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  25. DavidEddie

    DavidEddie Initiate (0) Jul 12, 2006 Illinois

    Your so awesome. I want to be like you when I grow up.
  26. SpottedZombie

    SpottedZombie Initiate (0) Feb 7, 2012 Illinois

    Well, it seems I've been put in my place. I suppose we all have an absolutely equal chance to acquire tickets to Dark Lord. With that said, my preparations will be great, and I hope they pay off.
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  27. drewba

    drewba Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2009 Illinois

    Based on your replies in this thread and your ISOFT, I can only conclude one or all of the following is true;
    1. You're 12
    2. You're an excellent troll.
    3. You're being intentionally oblivious.

    Last year, the DLD Ticket thread was hundreds of replies long, filled with people that were shut out from getting tickets. I'm willing to bet none of it had to do with equipment, rather thousands of people creating so much traffic that your chances at acquiring DLD tickets are at best, a crapshoot.
  28. stxSS07

    stxSS07 Initiate (0) Nov 23, 2010 Illinois

    You're pretty abrasive for a new member on here who's first posts involve selling DLD tickets and using your friends as DL mules.
  29. weatherdog

    weatherdog Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2007 Illinois

    In 2010, granted not as bad as 2011, I ended up buying tickets on a crappy smartphone. I actually felt bad that people got shut out on actual computers.
  30. SpottedZombie

    SpottedZombie Initiate (0) Feb 7, 2012 Illinois

    It appears as if we all should attempt to use the worst connection possible, they seem to be the only ones who get tickets... Or perhaps since they're astounded that they got tickets, given they had bad purchasing circumstances, they are the only ones who speak up. 3000 is a big number.
  31. SithLord1968

    SithLord1968 Initiate (0) Mar 14, 2012

    BeerGeeks created this great beer pilgrimage of the last 6 to 8 years... so go drink your Miller lite and piss off.
  32. jeebus23

    jeebus23 Initiate (133) Mar 19, 2010 Illinois

    I am really not looking forward to Saturday. Wish they would go back to releasing tickets at like 4 am or whatever time it was the first year.
  33. robwestcott

    robwestcott Meyvn (1,090) Nov 3, 2008 Indiana
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    seriously ? read the post again mr. sith lord, uhm, i'm on your team. i was referring back to plinythefarter's silly initial rant which included his statement about hating beeK geeks. get it now ? sheesh. not as funny if you have to explain it.

  34. Corbet

    Corbet Initiate (164) Nov 7, 2010 Michigan
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    hai guys I already ordered 12 tickets by haxing the systems, I'll sell each ticket for $100.
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  35. TapeDeck

    TapeDeck Initiate (0) Mar 31, 2011 Illinois

    I'm going to get a ticket. I'm going to get it on time like a winner, or I'm going to Stubhub for it like a loser. But I'm going to get a ticket. I like this beer, and I like this event.
  36. awdturboiv

    awdturboiv Disciple (384) May 24, 2008 Indiana
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    I have been going to DLD since its inception. Yes, the ticket sales system is horrible now but local authority pressure warranted it. It was much better when the random 2AM Tweet announced ticket sales. From '08 to '09 the attendance went from 4-5K to almost 10K. This was unprecedented and a complete nightmare for most people.
    Luckily I live 2 minutes from the brewery and I have never had a problem securing a spot in line...6 AM arrival usually. I have been fortunate to secure tickets to the last 2 DLDs and the XV party.
    Things have changed, this is true. What is definately better is the "session" system. I can almost guarantee you will not wait longer than an hour to buy DL once in line, except maybe for the first session.
    You can still "party" at your parking spot, but I recommend getting there early...spots are limited and quite pricy...$25 and up. All parking is on adjacent private property and "tailgating" is up to the owner's discretion. Bottom line...it is just not what it used to be. This is not FFF fault by any means, Munster Police are rough, and by rights! Too many drunken idoits ruined it for the rest of us.
    Good luck Sat...it is only about the beer now, and MAYBE the bands...if metal is your thing.
  37. SteelersX

    SteelersX Disciple (371) Jan 30, 2011 New York
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    I'm so glad I went in 2007. An event like that will never happern at FFF again.
  38. MNPikey

    MNPikey Devotee (407) Feb 27, 2011 Minnesota
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    Connection speed means nothing unless you are comparing to someone with dial-up or slow DSL. You're limited by the speed of the site itself....

    I have very high end PC and it means nothing for ability to connect to the internet. I7 980x, EVGA Classified, 12GB Corsair Dominator GT, 2x EVGA 580SLI, Corsair AX1200, etc....

  39. Todd

    Todd Founder (5,550) Aug 23, 1996 California
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    Locking this one down. Got tired of cleaning up all of the nonsense and trolling. Some of you have been warned for your posts. Let's play nice kids. Thanks.
    Microbrewtaster and quilty like this.
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