Dark Lord Day 2016

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  1. chewymangos

    chewymangos Initiate (0) Jun 12, 2014 Indiana

    There may not be and hasn't been in years past. I can't remember if they made the same statement about not being allowed to get a second allotment on past years web pages.
     
  2. kodt

    kodt Pooh-Bah (2,010) Mar 6, 2013 Illinois
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    They would have to go through the line twice, they won't let one person pick up two allotments, but if you wait in line again I don't see how they would catch you (unless they mark your hand or something)

    Every year since 2011 I think they have said 1 allotment per person. In 2009 and 2010 you could get like 4 allotments if you had the tickets.
     
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  3. chewymangos

    chewymangos Initiate (0) Jun 12, 2014 Indiana

    I guess that was kind of my point. Will they have some new system or way to weed out the mules or people going through a second time? Doubt they announce it ahead of time anyways if there is some system. Anybody who tries and fails, just leaves 5 extra paid for bottles behind for them so it's more money they make. They didn't outright encourage it before, but it meant more customers through the line and more bottles paid for and sold. Now all bottles will be paid for ahead of time so they can double their earnings if the don't allow somebody back through a second time.
     
  4. chewymangos

    chewymangos Initiate (0) Jun 12, 2014 Indiana


    Gotcha and thanks for the info. I won't be attempting it but was just curious if there would actually be measures in place to deter it.
     
  5. NikkoE82

    NikkoE82 Initiate (0) Jan 1, 2012 Indiana

    I only just noticed this on the etix site. Did they have this feature last year?

    "If a certain group is not desired, select the 'Best Available' tab, number of tickets desired, then 'Add Tickets'."
     
  6. myersk27

    myersk27 Initiate (0) Oct 21, 2011 Indiana

    I don't recall that being an option last year.
     
  7. dragonofblood

    dragonofblood Initiate (0) Apr 22, 2005 Canada (ON)

    Me either. I like it.
     
  8. croush

    croush Initiate (0) Mar 20, 2015 Illinois
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    Their website says that you & the person you bought a ticket for must enter at the same time, so I think there would be some easy way to manage it. Basically, if me & my buddy have to enter at the same time and they take away my ticket when I/we get our allocation, I wouldn't have a ticket to get back in line for a second allocation.

    Of course, I've never been before, so maybe that's how it was done in the past and people still managed to skirt the system.
     
  9. kodt

    kodt Pooh-Bah (2,010) Mar 6, 2013 Illinois
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    I think what he is saying is enter with two tickets (just hide one in your bag) and no buddy. Use the first ticket to get an allotment, go through line again and use the second ticket.
     
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  10. chewymangos

    chewymangos Initiate (0) Jun 12, 2014 Indiana

    There have been 2 entry points in the past. A person could exit their initial entry point and walk around to the other entry and present their second ticket because their name will be on both tickets. The more I thnk of it, the harder it would be to stop or enforce. Unless you are incredibly unlucky and they recognize you a second time and refuse you, I think you'd probably make it through a second time.

    In the scenario you listed, then yes, you and your buddy would both have to go up at the same time or he could just pass his ticket off to you once inside and you would go through a second time.

    I assume they will stop measures of people using the same ticket for a second allocation, but won't be able to manage somebody buying a second ticket for themselves.
     
  11. toolbrew

    toolbrew Pooh-Bah (1,550) Feb 26, 2008 Indiana
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    Agreed with above - if I purchase two and my name is on both tickets (like last year), I need to be present with my guest so my guest can enter. Or, I just go in and keep the second ticket/lanyard to myself.

    The best way to ensure against one person using two tickets is to require the guest's name at the time of purchase - similar to Rare Day.
     
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  12. croush

    croush Initiate (0) Mar 20, 2015 Illinois
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    Well, I guess that shows I'm not sneaky enough to do stuff like this. It seems like they don't have a good setup for preventing it...or perhaps it's just not that big of a problem in their eyes to put stricter measures in place. Maybe just give one ticket for both people, so you don't have that second ticket to come back in with.
     
  13. kodt

    kodt Pooh-Bah (2,010) Mar 6, 2013 Illinois
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    Yeah except with Rare day you had a couple days to claim your tickets and enter your friends name. With DLD you have minutes.. and assuming all of your buddies are trying to get tickets at the same time, and tickets continue to leave carts and become available sporadically for about an hour.. it would be a logistical nightmare to try to coordinate that and nail down a guest name.

    Yeah honestly I don't think it is a big problem, I doubt many people are going to bother going through line twice to get two allotments, and if they really want to do that.. great.
     
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  14. myersk27

    myersk27 Initiate (0) Oct 21, 2011 Indiana

    I love this idea.....and if they did that then I'd for sure only buy 1 ticket because as of right now I really don't know who my guest would be. But I'm sure that by the end of the day on saturday I would know. I'd be fine with it either way honestly.
     
  15. myersk27

    myersk27 Initiate (0) Oct 21, 2011 Indiana

    yeah there are like 18 guys in my tasting group and it would be a nightmare trying to figure out the guest situation during ticket purchase time.
     
  16. SeanBond

    SeanBond Pooh-Bah (2,578) Jul 30, 2013 Illinois
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    Alright guys, no more coming up with clever ways at getting around the bottle limit! This will (hopefully) be my first chance to get a BA DL bottle, and I don't want you evil geniuses ruining it for me!!!

    I'm pretty excited about DLD this time around (I mean, more so even than the last couple). I think this manner of handling tickets is going to cut down on a lot of time-wasting and issues for everyone. Coupled with the fact that we may have nice weather (which would be a first in my hopefully 3 years going)...This should be a blast, and let everyone concentrate on what really matters, which is expending MAXIMUM EFFORT (Deadpool reference) on consuming delicious beer.
     
  17. chewymangos

    chewymangos Initiate (0) Jun 12, 2014 Indiana

    Requiring guest names would certainly cut down on mules and those buying for extra allocations. I personally like the flexibility of buying a second ticket and in case my guest can't go, being able to find somebody else in place of them. Rare day was also a much smaller event in comparison size wise and could be a nightmare for them to accurately group guests and tickets together.
     
  18. croush

    croush Initiate (0) Mar 20, 2015 Illinois
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    ...and I think we can all count on bad weather now that you've thrown that out there!
     
  19. chewymangos

    chewymangos Initiate (0) Jun 12, 2014 Indiana

     
  20. SeanBond

    SeanBond Pooh-Bah (2,578) Jul 30, 2013 Illinois
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    Touché!

    I just meant that I don't want to get screwed out of a decent bottle choice by people scamming the system (whether or not that's even a danger, who knows). I will be more than happy to come away with two decent variants (for me and my gf), or even two of the same "decent" variant, but I don't want to be walking around with 2 bottles of Malort barrel-aged tequila Dark Lord (which isn't a variant, before @blue-dream yells at me again).
     
  21. Dontcounttoday

    Dontcounttoday Initiate (0) Apr 23, 2010 Illinois

    There will be 0 effort to police people using 2 tickets if they're willing to go through the line multiple times. They won't let you use 2 tickets at once, but they cannot event attempt to scan the faces of 6000 people to make sure someone hasn't already gone through. They have never put any further effort to stopping that sort of thing and I wouldn't expect it this year.

    IMO, its not worth being salty over. If someone wants to pony up $400 and go through the long lines multiple times, its not worth worrying about.
     
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  22. beerjunk

    beerjunk Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2015 Illinois

    Stop. Just stop.
     
  23. JJH1018

    JJH1018 Zealot (663) Sep 13, 2013 Illinois


    But on last years tickets it said 1 of 2 or 2 of 2. They could just not allow you in unless the other person is with you even if you're the primary ticket holder and not the guest.
     
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  24. RexKramer

    RexKramer Initiate (0) Jan 19, 2011 Illinois

    I'm over here dastardly twirling my mustache, thinking up schemes to stockpile as much BADL as possible. mwahahahahaha

    In all seriousness, if someone wants to buy 2 tickets and get 2 allotments, good one 'em. The # of tools doing this has to be minute compared to the number of folks just looking to get their 1 allocation and variant. I like the reduction in cash on hand at the festival and it's got to make things much, much easier to manage for 3Fs.

    Let's pray for good weather, plenty of tables, and plenty of great bottles to share.
     
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  25. myersk27

    myersk27 Initiate (0) Oct 21, 2011 Indiana

    they don't check for those things....if your guest isn't with you then you get in and the staff/volunteers move along to the next person.
     
  26. JJH1018

    JJH1018 Zealot (663) Sep 13, 2013 Illinois

    Very true. They just want to get people in and out as quickly as possible. Especially last year since the weather was miserable.
     
  27. kodt

    kodt Pooh-Bah (2,010) Mar 6, 2013 Illinois
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    Besides imagine your guests get sick and can't go now the primary holder won't be let in either? That would never work
     
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  28. Chris_H_2

    Chris_H_2 Initiate (0) Jan 3, 2013 Illinois
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    this happened to me last year. i flew solo and met some friends there. one of my friends went through the line with me so i could get my sick friend's beer. evidently diabetes in a bottle is the cure-all for the flu.
     
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  29. zach60614

    zach60614 Initiate (0) May 1, 2012 Illinois

    Sounds like a great idea. The question is, with all the ticket mishaps with DLD in the past, do I trust it to work?
     
  30. kodt

    kodt Pooh-Bah (2,010) Mar 6, 2013 Illinois
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    Yeah, can't wait for the next controversy.

    "I picked best available it screwed me over!"
    "My buddy picked Group A and got in but i picked best available and it gave me Group E!"
    "I went for Group B and got nothing, then tried Group C and everything was sold out!, I should have done best available"
    etc..
     
  31. SeanBond

    SeanBond Pooh-Bah (2,578) Jul 30, 2013 Illinois
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    "It's the most wonderfuuuuul time of the yearrrrrr!"
     
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  32. theburden

    theburden Initiate (0) Dec 17, 2002 Illinois

    yes there will.
     
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  33. chewymangos

    chewymangos Initiate (0) Jun 12, 2014 Indiana

    Just great, as if the dilemma to go for Session A or a much later one to improve my odds wasn't tough enough already. Now they go and add a Best Available option.
     
  34. ericfoster83

    ericfoster83 Devotee (379) Sep 16, 2010 Indiana

  35. Phobicsquirrel

    Phobicsquirrel Initiate (0) Oct 1, 2013 Oregon

    Had a great time last year, hopefully group A again.

    Does anyone know of a place in Munster that sells shippers with styrofoam?
     
  36. myersk27

    myersk27 Initiate (0) Oct 21, 2011 Indiana

    that's very encouraging!! thanks!
     
  37. ajcuster89

    ajcuster89 Zealot (671) Apr 14, 2014 Vermont
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    Any idea if they are going to sell those bottles of coffee again?
     
  38. SeanBond

    SeanBond Pooh-Bah (2,578) Jul 30, 2013 Illinois
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    I don't think Dark Matter or 3 Floyds has commented on that yet, but I'd assume so (Dark Matter has mentioned that DLD info is live on FFF's site, so I assume they're bringing the usual goods). DM is there every year, and their tent is definitely a highlight for me (especially when they're handing out those delicious candy bars for free)!
     
  39. dragonofblood

    dragonofblood Initiate (0) Apr 22, 2005 Canada (ON)

    Hope so. I missed out on the coffee last year (the line was just too damn long) but I'm definitely looking to get a couple bottles this year.

    Question at thread: Does anyone know of any good southern BBQ places around the Munster Hampton that also serve good craft beer?
     
  40. Drucifer

    Drucifer Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2012 Illinois

    Bomber's BBQ is pretty great
     
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