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De Dolle Still Nacht Reserva

Discussion in 'Beer Trading Talk' started by MrHolland10, Dec 19, 2012.

  1. MrHolland10

    MrHolland10 Mar 2, 2012 Georgia

    Just seeing what people are asking/receiving for this guy?

    Thanks for the help.
     
  2. MrHolland10

    MrHolland10 Mar 2, 2012 Georgia

    I'm an idiot. Could have done that myself.. Thanks bud
     
  3. csano

    csano Sep 21, 2010 Washington

    Are people actually getting what they are asking for?
     
  4. evilcatfish

    evilcatfish May 11, 2012 Missouri
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    I was thinking the same thing. I could go buy a case right now if I really wanted
     
  5. kscaldef

    kscaldef Jun 11, 2010 Oregon
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    gopickitupformebro?
     
  6. evilcatfish

    evilcatfish May 11, 2012 Missouri
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    I'm gonna stop by my bottle shop in the morning and see what I can do. Its like 37 bucks a pop for this bad boy
     
  7. evilcatfish

    evilcatfish May 11, 2012 Missouri
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    And the dudes that BM'd me will get first priority, no offense
     
  8. BAstoutsNsours

    BAstoutsNsours Sep 21, 2012 Florida

    I've heard there is a bunch of this, no idea on how much got to the US
     
  9. Beerisheaven

    Beerisheaven Dec 5, 2007 Pennsylvania

    Something like 250 bottles or around that mark to the US.
     
  10. BAstoutsNsours

    BAstoutsNsours Sep 21, 2012 Florida

    See now someone else said ~500, where are these figures coming from or is it just word of mouth?
     
  11. hooliganlife

    hooliganlife Apr 12, 2007 Missouri
    Beer Trader

    Everywhere I have read said 360 bottles in the USA
     
  12. Beerisheaven

    Beerisheaven Dec 5, 2007 Pennsylvania

    Hooligan is correct. Chris from de Dolle said 360 to US out of run of round 4000 bottles.
     
  13. aasher

    aasher Jan 27, 2010 Indiana
    Beer Trader

    I should have a bottle for you this week.
     
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  14. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Mar 17, 2009 Massachusetts
    Beer Trader

    I saw some went up on Etre the other day.
     
  15. DaSolomon

    DaSolomon Oct 12, 2011 New York

    Is the De Dolle Still Nacht Reserva that people are looking for the same as the De Dolle Still Nacht Special reserva?
     
  16. tbadiuk

    tbadiuk Feb 9, 2009 Manitoba (Canada)
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    Don't think so, if you're refering to the 2005 one. This is a new 2010 batch that came out around the start of December. 4000 bottles at the brewery, 360 of those got sent to the USA. Most places got a single case of 6, so 60 locations x 6 bottles each approx.
     
  17. Duffman929

    Duffman929 Nov 27, 2010 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    Anyone know the price at the brewery?
     
  18. AlexFields

    AlexFields Dec 13, 2009 Tennessee
    Beer Trader

    My understanding is the 2010 is the same recipe as 2000 and the 2005 was a different recipe.
     
  19. tbadiuk

    tbadiuk Feb 9, 2009 Manitoba (Canada)
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    12, 12.5, or 13 Euro, it's one of those but I've gotten conflciting reports to which exactly.
     
  20. beerpirates

    beerpirates May 4, 2010 Belgium
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    I've been talking with Kris at de dolle and 360 bottles have been sended to the US !
     
  21. tbadiuk

    tbadiuk Feb 9, 2009 Manitoba (Canada)
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    Correct, and no store in the U.S. that I know of got more than a case of 6 bottles (there may have been some exceptions, but I haven't heard of any) so it was really thinly distributed. 60 stores x 6 bottles each = 360.
     
  22. beerpirates

    beerpirates May 4, 2010 Belgium
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    Yeah , and i know from the source that ALL bottles are sold out at de dolle ! :(
     
  23. JAXSON

    JAXSON Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Its basically the same beer, but each year (2000, 2005, 2010) should be distinct given how it is only made every five years, in small quantities, and uses different barrels/ time spent in barrels. Its basically stills nacht aged in Bordeaux barrels, so on its face not too dissimilar from the 2005. Though apparently Kris was trying to make a "clone" of the 2000 with this vintage, which I find exciting.
     
  24. Nightfall

    Nightfall Aug 16, 2006 Greece

    There was also a 2008 version in 750ml bottles that was given to friends & Co , if I am not mistaken it was never available for purchase though.
     
  25. bauermj

    bauermj May 4, 2009 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    People sure are in a hurry to trade this one away
     
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  26. kiki3drt292

    kiki3drt292 Jan 13, 2011 California
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    no definitely not. you see the same few people that originally made outrageous ISO's either keep bumping their threads or lowering their expectations. I'm sure one or two of the crazy offers got done though, they always do.
     
  27. AlexFields

    AlexFields Dec 13, 2009 Tennessee
    Beer Trader

    Can you think of any example ever where a rare or anticipated beer was released and there weren't numerous threads offering it or looking for it right afterward? Is there anything unique about this one?

    I'm obviously not in a hurry to trade this as I've passed on a number of solid offers as they weren't really the beers I was looking for. Some of them were bottles or combos of bottles that would probably trade for many of the things I've asked for on my threads. But I'm not looking to make any good deal or win a trade, I'm looking to trade my bottle for one of a particular few other bottles/combos that are similar in rarity and reputation/rating/pedigree. If nobody wants to trade any of those beers now, I don't have to do a trade now.
     
  28. AlexFields

    AlexFields Dec 13, 2009 Tennessee
    Beer Trader

    There's a difference between not having a good idea what a beer will trade for and trying to trade it for more than what it should trade for. Didn't seem unreasonable to me to offer x2 or x3 snr 10, say you're willing to add (and the things I was willing to add would've been like Rare, b1 CR, etc), and then put some big beers on your ISO list to see what happens.

    Some of the beers on my original ISO are the same stuff in listing in the new one--snr 10 for duck duck, for example, seemed reasonable to me before and still does.
     
  29. AlexFields

    AlexFields Dec 13, 2009 Tennessee
    Beer Trader

    Sure, I was trying to get some big beers and hoping it would happen.

    But no, I don't think that is the same thing as trying to "win." I've always understood winning a trade to mean getting the better end of a deal, or getting more for a beer than it can normally get on the trade market. That's not the same as just now knowing what you can or can't expect for something.
     
  30. claaark13

    claaark13 Nov 29, 2007 Indiana
    Beer Trader

    The SNR'10 stuff has been getting a little out of control.


    I'm one of maybe 10 USA members that I could list who actually care about De Dolle. If you don't want SNR'10 yourself and you don't think, "Wow, my trading partner would love to have this bottle!", leave it on the shelf for someone who wants to drink it. Stop buying up bottles that others in your distro-zone want to drink just to auction them off.

    I assure you all, Kris didn't send these bottles to the USA because he wanted them to be auctioned off on the trading forums. He could have just as easily kept them in Belgium and they would've sold.
     
  31. AlexFields

    AlexFields Dec 13, 2009 Tennessee
    Beer Trader

    I hear what you're saying. But a) I do want to drink the beer and I'm going to. My tasting buddy is way into de Dolle and really wanted this so now he's got two bottles that he didn't have to trade anything crazy for, and I'm really looking forward to them too. B) I had no idea if any of my regular tradin partners were looking for this or not when I found these bottles and if one of them were, I'd send it to them.

    But ultimately, i mean, doesn't the "If you don't want to drink it yourself leave it for someone else" argument apply to pretty much literally any beer? Does any brewer make their beers with the intention of having them traded? Trading is a good way for beers to spread around to people who don't have the opportunity of buying them at the brewery or on shelf or wherever as long as all parties feel the deals are fair.
     
  32. claaark13

    claaark13 Nov 29, 2007 Indiana
    Beer Trader

    You've got it in the trading forums.

    You can define "trading" however you'd like, but if you read my post, I used the word "auction".
     
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  33. claaark13

    claaark13 Nov 29, 2007 Indiana
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    Also, this emphasizes my point in a real-life scenario. Your buddy didn't have to trade anything crazy for them. Neither did the people who were so happy that their store received bottles that they were able to buy and drink, which could have been him as well.
     
  34. claaark13

    claaark13 Nov 29, 2007 Indiana
    Beer Trader

    I can't believe I'm saying this, but I hope Kris just keeps the next round within Belgium.
     
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  35. beerpirates

    beerpirates May 4, 2010 Belgium
    Beer Trader

    Does it matter i've somebody drinks hi's own beers that hi bought ?
    I believe that , when i pay money for a bottle i can do with it whatever i want , i can take picture's of it , use it as decoration , drink it , trade it etc ...
    Com'on people , nobody else except yourself can decide what you want to do with your own stuff that you bought / traded
    Same story i've you want to trade it away , it's not about winning , it's about what you want for it ,
    I've people agree on what your asking for it , then whats the problem ? i hope they are old enough to know what there doing ,
    It's all about 2 people doing a trade and being happy at the end of the day , right ?
     
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  36. AlexFields

    AlexFields Dec 13, 2009 Tennessee
    Beer Trader

    I'm trading one or more bottles probably, yes--we're also keeping at least two to drink and maybe more. I bought these bottles knowing it was a special beer that Id really enjoy and figured I'd decide later how many to save and whether to trade any. Is that unreasonable? Also before I had these I figured it was something that would trade for like Fou'Foune and not much more and I was surprised at how much interest there really was.

    Look through my post history and you'll see that my buddy and I had a thread up looking to trade FOR this beer before I found my bottles for sale. It's obviously something I wanted and not just meaningless trade bait.

    Also, re: auctioning, one of the offers I got was for a b2 beatification and the guy said he'd add to get it done. I messaged him back and said I thought b2 beat 1:1 seemed fair and that he shouldn't add (I also said I'm not really looking for beatification and is have to think about it for that reason). Is that auctioning? I'm looking for a reasonable trade for something i want, not whatever the most I happen to be able to get is.
     
  37. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Mar 17, 2009 Massachusetts
    Beer Trader

    What is fair? You thought fou foune was fair. But now juicy+genealogy of morals or b2 beat seems more fair. Maybe SNR and BCBCS for T20... LOL
     
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  38. AlexFields

    AlexFields Dec 13, 2009 Tennessee
    Beer Trader

    Someone posted a FT: t20 ISO: snr + coffee and something else thread a while ago and they told me the trade got done. Shrug.

    A beer's trade value depends on demand and availability. I didn't figure there was a lot I demand for this but obviously more people want it than I thought. I've had a number of offers more or less in line with what I'm asking which tells me my offer isn't unreasonable. I don't see what's so crazy about any of this or how it's any different than any other sought after beer release.

    I just made one of the deals I offered in my post for one of the rarest beers I was asking for, and have had other offers basically the same as what I was asking for. They seem fair to me. Don Quijote or V004 was obviously too ambitious; duck duck and deviation and juicy + apparently not.
     
  39. claaark13

    claaark13 Nov 29, 2007 Indiana
    Beer Trader

    I just grabbed a 12/13/12 bottling of that Schlafly T IPA, and you should too. You won't regret it. And yes, to answer your internal question, it blends well with Beersel Gueuze.
     
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