Founders is overrated but not in the pejorative meaning many want to throw around. Founders has become a victim of their own success. Founders has been put on a ridiculously high pedestal by overzealous beer geeks, now those same beer geeks want to knock them off this pedestal because Founders is no longer meeting their ridiculous expectations. Founders was never as good as people made them out to be, they certainly are not as bad as these complaints lead you to believe either. Just another example where realistic expectations benefit us all.