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Discussion in 'Beer News & Releases' started by draheim, Jun 21, 2013.
Thanks for the insight! Being a sour-head I am really looking forward to this one!
How much does a bottle normally run?
It's OK. Most BAs have a difficult time talking to a woman when they can see her face.
$15ish is the norm in our area.
Tried it tonight at the Bend release on tap in a Teku glass. Pretty damn good IMO. Bottles $14 each. Not that sour at all.
My brother had a couple at the brewery tonight. He didn't detect any sourness...it was more of a dark chocolate bitterness, if anything. Very rich and sweet and awesome. Can't wait to try it this weekend.
Had xxv in portland tonight.....I definitely enjoyed it, surely complex, smidge of sour. Strangely the xxi they were also pouring had more of a tart taste. The xxiv was quite good,still jammy. All on draft at the pub. I look forward to xxv out of the bottle. Bought a few for kicks.
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Nah. I'm married. Its something about the angle of her head. seems unnatural.
So for the skimming reader...is this on shelves yet? Need to know so I can post an ISO for a couple bottles.
No just released yesterday, give it a few
bottles still available at the portland pub? was thinking of swinging down there later and grabbing a few.
better start calling the liquor stores in town for an estimated eta...
Arrived at stores today in NorCal
I paid $15 at 99 Bottles.
Yeah looks like a bad photoshop.
Picked up several bottles at Deschutes-Portland last Thursday ~ $14 each. Had a snifter pour at the pub.
Tried one over the weekend and enjoyed it (doesn't seem like an innoculated "sour", but does have tartness thanks to currants), will add the full review ASAP.
Added it to the database for those of you who want to review/rate/tick it.
Where specifically are you referring to? Depending on location, distro time can vary greatly in NorCal.
San Jose and Santa Clara
No, he's referring to pre-1817 (Daniel Wheeler invented the Malt Roasting Drum) when Pale Malt was roasted over a wood-burning flame, which gave off a smokiness, to create "Brown Malt."
That said, Black Butte (from my notes) is typically oxidized so I'll be passing on this, as per usual.
Thats funny I have never had an oxidized Black Butte and I have had them all and am cellering <sp> almost a dozen of various vintages, maybe they poke a hole in the cap before they reach Pennsylvania
LetsPour had this on their site yesterday for $17 with a 1 bottle limit. Got my bottle, and super excited to get it in the mail! This'll be my first Black Butte anniversary brew.
Just had XXV on draft, and now I really miss XXIV. Let this beer warm up a lot to taste the complexities, which are there, but definitely an off flavor was present. Slight metallic. I know this beer is probably too young, and I see what they are trying to do with the "tartness", but it needs more of that cocoa nibs flavor, which will hopefully come back in down the road..
Yes maturity will help, just had it again today at the brewery, I like it even better after 2 weeks. Probably go again tomorrow for more, happy 4th to me.
FYI, Craftshack just put this up on their website at $15.99 and 1 bottle limit. I wouldn't be a good BA if I didn't tell the bros! I got mine already.
I hate how deschutes puts out beers with a 'best after' date. With other beers I have the choice with those to age or drink it. But with these it's like telling me 'you can, but we don't advise it'
Just don't like sour stouts & porters, that's all.
$12.99 at Cedar Hills (PDX) New Seasons this past weekend. Lots available, glad I waited.
At which store?
I got a couple bottles of the 22 double top secret stach. very limited
I saw it twice in Jane & Joplin Macadoodles within the last 3-5 months if not sooner. Would've purchased more if my beer budget for the rest of the year wasn't already spent....
It was still there last night, but I had just placed an order with them a week ago. As much as I wanted it, I need to free up cellar space before adding more.
Had Deschuttes not announced that the 'tartness' was intentional, I'm pretty sure this thread would have devolved into a "Black Butte XXV is infected" discussion.
Alpine should follow Deschuttes lead and announce that they have "introduced subtle tart flavors" when they release their barrel aged stouts and porters.
It will be interesting to see if the tartness develops with time. If it does, one could interpret that they had a clever PR way of handling an infected batch of beer.
Try it before you judge, they soured a small portion and blended it. I am not a sour fan either but had this and am pleasantly surprised. I then bought (5) 22's to cellar.
Remember, they flash pasteurize since the 09 Abyss debacle. I suspect the slight sourness was intentional, unsure on how it will develop as the beer ages though.
Is anyone else really tired of Deschutes messing with a good thing? Both Abyss and Black Butte Anniversary continue to receive wholesale changes rather than moderate tweaks to make the beer better than the original incarnations with Black Butte XXIV maybe being the only exception. Bring back '06 Abyss and Black Butte XX dammit!
/doesn't help the matter by at least trying a bottle of the new versions
Maybe with Abyss, although since I've only ever had '10, '11, and '12 I guess I've never had a "good" Abyss.
W/ the BB anniversary beers I see it more as a way for Deschutes to play around with their flagship beer a little bit and experiment. I liked the XXIII a lot more with a couple years on it, and was very impressed by XXIV. Again though, never had the XX so I don't know what I'm missing.
...or maybe you don't know what oxidation tastes like.