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Release Dissident and Abyss Update

Discussion in 'Beer News & Releases' started by gtermi, Sep 28, 2012.

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  1. mjshearer1

    mjshearer1 Aspirant (213) Dec 16, 2011 Michigan
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    I managed to snag one of these too, got it a couple days ago. This is my first Abyss ever so I'm stoked to try it!
  2. azureoval

    azureoval Aspirant (283) Jan 25, 2010 California

    Wow, I was so wrong about this release it is not funny. Dissident was so much easier to get this year. Nothing has moved this fast around here as The Abyss did. I wonder if this is how its going to be from now on ?
  3. dkuback3

    dkuback3 Initiate (6) Dec 30, 2012 Ohio

    I found this year's Abyss online and picked up a few bottles. I enjoyed the 2011 vintage much more; it had a better bourbon backbone for me.
  4. matttttYCE

    matttttYCE Initiate (0) Jul 15, 2010 Arizona

    That's exactly how I felt about 2010, leading me to only get one bottle of 2012, which I still have yet to try because I'm not even that excited about it.
  5. stealth

    stealth Defender (607) Dec 16, 2011 Minnesota
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    I wonder how 'different' the vintages are, versus how much expectation one has after having <insert hyped annual beer here> and then waiting a year or some time to have it again, all the while that expectation and memory feeds upon itself - like your classic fishing tale where the fish grows with each telling.

    That being said, I've been drinking '11 Abyss throughout the year since I got so much of it last year and when I cracked open a '12 I really did not notice anything to be lacking. Never had '10 so I can't compare to that.
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  6. Wingfan13

    Wingfan13 Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2009 Texas
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    Considering there are dozens of things that can effect your perceived taste and relying on memory from a year ago of that taste, these opinions shouldn't be taken too seriously. A beer is close to impossible to brew identically year after year but they get pretty damn close. With a few exceptions there is no way you could possibly say for sure that the 2010 is different than 2011. What you ate, what you drank, what mood you were in etc could imprint in your mind how you perceived the beer tha last time you had it. That is why jokes are made about "X" beer is no where near as good as the 2010 version.

    It is also funny when people say "I just had a 2008 Abyss and the 2012 is no where near as good". Really ? You are drinking a 4 year old beer.
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  7. gtermi

    gtermi Meyvn (1,214) Apr 21, 2010 Texas

    It's sad that The Abyss still hasn't hit in Texas... Guess I might have to trade for it
  8. Wingfan13

    Wingfan13 Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2009 Texas
    Beer Trader

    Yeah, it is amazing how long it takes to get here. I have heard 3 more weeks but it wasn't from the most reliable source.
  9. gtermi

    gtermi Meyvn (1,214) Apr 21, 2010 Texas

    Yeah I heard 2-3 weeks. It is by far my favorite beer, but this is just a joke having to wait this long
  10. Wingfan13

    Wingfan13 Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2009 Texas
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    I mean, I guess they are aging it for us. :wink:
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  11. gtermi

    gtermi Meyvn (1,214) Apr 21, 2010 Texas

    Haha good point!
  12. mmikey8

    mmikey8 Aspirant (297) Aug 2, 2012 California
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    Still waiting for it in So Cal, but was lucky enough to try on tap at Bruery Provisions.
  13. besaunders

    besaunders Initiate (0) Nov 8, 2007 California

    Waiting for Abyss? It has come and gone.
  14. mmikey8

    mmikey8 Aspirant (297) Aug 2, 2012 California
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    Kept checking with Total Wine, and they kept telling me they weren't sure when they were going to receive.
  15. besaunders

    besaunders Initiate (0) Nov 8, 2007 California

    It's possible they could get a later bunch via their distributor, but it was 2 weeks ago we were seeing it in San Diego.
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  16. RonMex

    RonMex Initiate (0) Oct 21, 2010 Oregon

    I tried the 2008-12 vertical at the pub. Obviously, the bottles had different age on them, so it was not an apples to apples comparison. Of note, the 2008 was less carbonated and not nearly as vibrant as the other vintages (presumably due to past its prime). The 2009 or 2010 was probably my favorite (honestly prolly couldnt distinguish in a blind tasting). The 2012 seemed most similar to the 2010. The 2011 stood out like a sore thumb. Thinner and a bit muddled.

    Just my experience...
  17. Rollzroyce21

    Rollzroyce21 Meyvn (1,028) Oct 24, 2009 California
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    Which TW? I'm finding that each one is more or less beer-centric than others.
  18. mmikey8

    mmikey8 Aspirant (297) Aug 2, 2012 California
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    Tustin for the most part, but also called HB and Brea. Maybe it sold it really fast and I missed it, but they could never give me a release date.
  19. sirtomtom

    sirtomtom Initiate (197) Dec 10, 2010 California

    Tustin Total Wine received and sold out of the 1 or 2 cases they got on November 30th(They also got Sam Adams Utopia that day too). It's possible that they are trying to get more from their distributor or an employee is just stringing
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  20. mmikey8

    mmikey8 Aspirant (297) Aug 2, 2012 California
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    I kind of got that feeling when they release Westy 12. I'm checking all the time, so will keep doing so. Thanks!
  21. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Poo-Bah (12,188) Mar 18, 2010 California

    The TW in Northridge may or may not have held back all but a few bottles for staff to buy. I am in there 3 times a week and I never saw it in person or on the website. I doubt you are going to get any by now.
  22. mmikey8

    mmikey8 Aspirant (297) Aug 2, 2012 California
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    I actually just checked the website. Not even listed anymore. I mean it's a great beer, but come one, let's distribute here.
  23. soughtbygod

    soughtbygod Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2011 California
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    what he said i already got mine in so cal it was sold at costco for crying out load
  24. Chebyshev

    Chebyshev Initiate (0) Mar 13, 2011 California

    This year Deschutes really messed up with the release of this beer here (Sacramento area), and it sounds like other places as well. We got 1/3 of the cases we have gotten in previous years and they all sold out in a day for $18/bottle as opposed to the usual $12 or $13. The only place that didn't gouge was Whole Foods. I'm wondering if this is due to new large accounts for Deschutes such as Costco, Safeway, or other large chain grocery stores. I really hope this isn't a trend with them and they are not abandoning their loyal customers for large accounts. This strategy is no better than the macro breweries.
  25. SHODriver

    SHODriver Poo-Bah (1,522) Aug 13, 2010 Louisiana
    Beer Trader

    I never thought I'd end up trading for a beer that I was in the distro range of but somebody on another forum in NM came through for me since it hangs around for a lot longer.
  26. azureoval

    azureoval Aspirant (283) Jan 25, 2010 California

    Yeah I know what you mean. I figured it would be a little harder to get this year but did not expect it to be so sparse. Luckily I still have some 2010 left to tide me over till next years release.
  27. besaunders

    besaunders Initiate (0) Nov 8, 2007 California

    Which Costco was that?
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