Do Bourbon County Stout and KBS just dominate other bourbon barrel stouts?

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  1. krl2112

    krl2112 Crusader (732) Nov 10, 2012 Illinois
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    Have you tried CW BB Stout? I think it is better FRESH than BCBS is. However, I think BCBS is better with age. Plus CW is about $13/4pk whereas BCBS is about $22/4pk.
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  2. KWMiles

    KWMiles Initiate (0) Oct 23, 2012 Minnesota

    BB Plead the 5th kicks ass. Maybe better than BCBS...heresy, I know.
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  3. ao125

    ao125 Initiate (0) Dec 1, 2010 Virginia

    DuClaw's Retribution is by far my favorite in this category. This is one case where buying and drinking local for me has its rewards.
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  4. Oneinchaway

    Oneinchaway Initiate (120) Jun 12, 2011 California
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  5. cbeer88

    cbeer88 Crusader (719) Sep 5, 2007 Massachusetts

    I guess I couldn't disagree more.

    2012 BCBS is the first vintage I've had fresh that I'd even call a great beer - it's always been way too hot and boozy. With age it turns into something special though...

    KBS is kind of the opposite - spectacular fresh, but closer to middle of the road with age.

    I think Parabola is the king of this category. Just a few more off the top of my head that are at least as good, if not better than KBS/BCBS... Silva Stout, Abyss, Black Tuesday, CW, EC Eclipses, Cuvee Delphine, Lindley Park... and I have yet to try many of the most well known ones like BA Dark Lord, BA Huna, Black Note, BA Pt5, etc.

    You can't argue with the accessibility and price of BCBS and KBS relative to many of these others. But on taste alone they're no better.
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  6. DCgolfpro

    DCgolfpro Devotee (479) Oct 26, 2011 Maryland
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    I think Big Bad Baptist is the best bourbon barrel aged COFFEE stout. Im my opinion, it's far superior to KBS.
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  7. keysburg

    keysburg Initiate (138) Mar 28, 2012 Massachusetts

    I personally like trying new things. Sometimes trying a new beer leads to disappointment. If you want to know what you're getting, drink something you know you like.

    I did really like Smuttynose's Zinneke, FWIW.
  8. mychalg9

    mychalg9 Champion (849) Apr 8, 2010 Illinois
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    Had my first Black Xantus lately and holy crap if that isn't a great beer
  9. SeaOfShells

    SeaOfShells Initiate (0) Feb 22, 2011 California

    I'm going to jump on the Parabola band wagon. For me, it stands head and shoulders above the rest.
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  10. stupac2

    stupac2 Zealot (518) Feb 22, 2011 California
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    I seem to be one of the few who has gotten less and less impressed with KBS as I tried more BBA stouts. BCBS is among the best, but I'll be passing on KBS from here on out.
  11. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Meyvn (1,102) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Jumping on the kbs hate train... parabola, bayeti, and uncle jacobs all blow it out of the water. As far as bcbs goes, I think that it is an amzing stout, and in that top tier with the ones I just listed. Depending on my mood I could put any of those three ahead of bcbs or vice versa. Once you get to. The cream of the crop its hard to pick a front runner simply because palates are different and change.
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  12. ShogoKawada

    ShogoKawada Meyvn (1,247) May 31, 2009 Pennsylvania

    cough cough double black cough cough
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  13. Sam_Frank

    Sam_Frank Initiate (0) Nov 29, 2012 California

    still haven't had either :slight_frown:
  14. CityofBals

    CityofBals Initiate (0) Sep 12, 2012 Illinois

    BCBS with age > BBpt5 (never had a four year old bottle, so that will be the real comparison) > KBS. Fresh, BBpt5 > BCBS > KBS.
  15. dvmin98

    dvmin98 Poo-Bah (1,854) Nov 1, 2010 North Carolina
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    If you haven't had Barrel Aged Big Sound from Cigar City, you're missing out. Easily one of my top 2 or 3 bourbon aged beers. Not to mention the People's Porter BA from Foothills isn't too bad, especially for the price point. I've had two kegs of it over the past year.
  16. imbibehour

    imbibehour Poo-Bah (6,277) Mar 18, 2008 Maryland
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    I think it all depends what you want out of one. Some are those coffee profiled, others have different angles.. just hanging with KBS and BCBS keeps me plenty pleased, as do many of the others in this thread that have already been mentioned. Good problem to have.

    I do go out of my way sometimes to try other things, but I don't go with the intention wondering/hoping is this beer (style) going to be better than my favorite. If it is then great! But if it isn't then great! It's all win win...

    stick with what you like, and don't kill yourself trying to get others if you're happy where you are.
  17. ShemRahBoo

    ShemRahBoo Defender (604) Jan 28, 2010 New Jersey
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    I don't get all the big bad baptist dominating KBS posts. Both great beers but the big bad baptist I recently tried is dominated in aroma and flavor by straight up coffee. Not a bad thing but the other components were hidden and not in sync as well as KBS.
  18. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Poo-Bah (12,229) Mar 18, 2010 California

    They are definitely up there and classics in the category, but there are plenty of similar beers that give them competition.
  19. MetalMountainMastiff

    MetalMountainMastiff Initiate (0) Oct 1, 2012 California
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    I've been meaning to ask about this....Is this a trade worthy beer???? I enjoyed it and its local to cali? is it worth keeping for trade? I have 2 but should I get more. Also am I wrong or is Nectar Ales, a firestone brand?
  20. MacNCheese

    MacNCheese Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2011 California

    The answer is no. Lots of great barrel aged beers out there.
  21. MetalMountainMastiff

    MetalMountainMastiff Initiate (0) Oct 1, 2012 California
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    For got to add I've never had either yet...But Stones Bourbon Imperial Stout is AMAZING! if anyones had all and could compare them.
  22. PittBeerGirl

    PittBeerGirl Poo-Bah (1,583) Feb 27, 2007 Ohio

    Between BCBS, Parabola, Abyss, and KBS - Abyss is definately the only one I find to be top notch with BCBS trailing behind in 2nd place.
    Its the availability factor for KBS and BCBS

    For the record top notch BA stouts for me are- BA Speedway, BBPT5, BA Blackout, The Abyss, Full Pint Rye Rebellion, jackie os bourbon barrel sweet chocolate love
  23. Thickfreakness

    Thickfreakness Initiate (0) Oct 2, 2010 New York

    Black Tuesday
    Voodoo Black Magick
    Black Xantus
  24. beercanman

    beercanman Initiate (0) Dec 17, 2012 Ohio

    BA old rasputin is my personal favorite.
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  25. EnronCFO

    EnronCFO Zealot (502) Mar 29, 2007 Massachusetts
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    Agreed on the mouthfeel. Took me a few tries to really appreciate the flavor as it needs to be drunk slowly and warmed up a bit to really appreciate. But I don't care for the mouthfeel at all. Then again, I run into the same problem with many bourbon aged stouts.
  26. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Savant (957) Mar 17, 2009 Washington
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    It gets a wide distribution. BX is available in MA.
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  27. ChefBergo

    ChefBergo Initiate (0) Nov 9, 2011 Illinois

    Bourbon Barrel Plead the Fifth kicks KBS and BCBS out of the water....its a F@#KIN JUGGERNAUT
  28. Casedogg43

    Casedogg43 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Indiana
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    In short: No

    Others as good or better.
    Lobe BCBS, KBS overhyped in IMO.
  29. DocJitsu

    DocJitsu Devotee (477) Dec 28, 2009 Florida

    Eclipse Elijah Craig (12) is pretty amazing. I haven't had BCBS yet, but the Eclipse is truly heavenly.
  30. unibroue4ever

    unibroue4ever Initiate (120) Oct 20, 2010 Quebec (Canada)
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    Did a tasting two weeks ago with both and bsbs was a big winner!
  31. Dirty25

    Dirty25 Initiate (0) Jan 22, 2012 Germany

    I think KBS fresh is the best. After a couple years BCBS is the best.m Parabola and all the other BA beers are good but KBS rules all freshed.
  32. Beejay

    Beejay Poo-Bah (2,000) Dec 29, 2008 Virginia

    I don't care so much about Bourbon County.. But Daymn KBS is a fine ass beer.

    That being said, I've been impressed with what smaller breweries have been putting out. Blue Mountain's Dark Hollow is awesome. Hardywood Park seems to be constantly doing good things with bourbon barrels, and Listermann brewing Co's Cincinnatus is stellar.
  33. jsurfs82

    jsurfs82 Disciple (329) May 13, 2008 Ohio

    There are so many good beers now. Some alot easier to get for some than others but Big Bad Baptist is amazing, GI BCBS 2012 is amazing, Founders always nails it when it comes to balance. There are some amazing non bourbons out there too. Founders Imp Stout, Dark Horse Plead The Fifth, Cigar City Marshal Zhukov, even Great Lakes Blackout Stout. So many good beers all very close in rating. I forgot to mention even some guys are disguising their stouts as Imperial Porters such as Ballast Point Victory at Sea. It's an amazing Imperial Coffee Stout, take Founders Breakfast Stout and add a shot more of espresso.
  34. jsurfs82

    jsurfs82 Disciple (329) May 13, 2008 Ohio

    People that say "OMG Parabola obliterates KBS" and vice versa STFU all these beers are all phenomenal and any given day one is better than the other. This goes for most mentioned brews on this thread.
  35. HopFace

    HopFace Aspirant (241) Feb 29, 2012 Colorado
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    My 2 pennies:

    I love both KBS and BCBS but have to say there are better brews out there. I think Parabola with 1 year on it is fantastic. My number 1 though would have to be Brewdog Paradox Jura. That beer was amazing fresh and still GREAT now. Did a side by side with 4 people of BCBS vs Paradox Jura and it wasn't even close. Everyone said Paradox Jura was leagues better.

    I haven't had BB Blackout but that will change in 2 weeks.

    PS: ISO: Big Bad Baptist
  36. sacrelicio

    sacrelicio Initiate (0) Feb 15, 2005 Minnesota

    Parabola. Case closed bitchez.
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  37. BuckeyeOne

    BuckeyeOne Zealot (517) Mar 9, 2008 Washington

    In a word - No.
  38. sacrelicio

    sacrelicio Initiate (0) Feb 15, 2005 Minnesota

    I think most BB stouts that I have had are pretty equal in quality. A couple rise above - BCBS and Parabola, but all of them are pretty equally amazing.
  39. poopinmybutt

    poopinmybutt Initiate (84) May 25, 2005 Nebraska

    agreed...this years is by far the best fresh version of it that i've had, been buying since 2006.
  40. Rollzroyce21

    Rollzroyce21 Meyvn (1,028) Oct 24, 2009 California
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    Hmm... I kinda agree with your ranking here, except BA BORIS last and throw in some Eclipses here and there.

    Note: Never had VBM and BX
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