Do Bourbon County Stout and KBS just dominate other bourbon barrel stouts?

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  1. Rollzroyce21

    Rollzroyce21 Meyvn (1,028) Oct 24, 2009 California
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    Man.. I think I tried some strange Epic BBB counterfeit cause I do not agree with this even being mentioned here at all.
  2. doobliebop

    doobliebop Initiate (71) Dec 24, 2010 Colorado
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    Uncle Jacobs needs to be on these lists. I brought a KBS to the release party to try them side by side and UJ blew it away.
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  3. kojevergas

    kojevergas Poo-Bah (7,612) Aug 15, 2010 Texas
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    Beer Geek Brunch Weasel Cognac is amazing, so I always figured Brunch Weasel Bourbon would be be as good - and thus better than both KBS and BCBS. That said, I love KBS and BCBS.
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  4. YogiBeer

    YogiBeer Initiate (0) May 10, 2012 Illinois

    Beer geek brunch weasel cognac is absolutely unreal. Not even mad that it was $13 for 8.5oz.

    Also, I cast my vote that parabola young or old is better than bcbs and kbs, as is BA BORIS. Had lots of all. I also like espresso yeti wayyy better than DL and FBS but that's just me.
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  5. jsm1289

    jsm1289 Initiate (0) Mar 11, 2011 New York
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    won't somebody please think of parabola and the abyss?
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  6. dumptruckzzz

    dumptruckzzz Initiate (0) Oct 19, 2010 Pennsylvania

    oh man good call those beers havent been mentioned at all. i bought a 4 pack of kbs 2 years ago and i drank one of them and i gave the other away, i dont know what to do with the other two besides getting just real massively drunk off them
  7. MichiBrew

    MichiBrew Initiate (0) Nov 26, 2010 Michigan

    Seriously? KBS is excellent...BBPT5th is waaaaay has been noted, a year on a BCBS is gold...
  8. darkmoon66

    darkmoon66 Aspirant (246) Oct 8, 2011 California
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    BCBS, KBS, Parabola, BA Boris, BA Plead the 5th, Big Bad Baptist, Black Xantus,The Abyss, ect. are all awesome. You need to re-evaluate your expectations and/or get your tastebuds examined if you think any of those are bad.
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  9. Kuester

    Kuester Initiate (0) May 14, 2012 Colorado

    It needs to be reiterated how fantastic Uncle Jacobs is! I truly feel sorry for those who haven't tried it. Just wish it was more affordable per oz!
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  10. Azzy

    Azzy Initiate (0) Jul 16, 2012 Texas
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    I prefer BCBS to Parabola and KBS. But Karbach's Hellfighter is really nice too. BCBS is delicious though. DEEEEEELicious
  11. 4DAloveofSTOUT

    4DAloveofSTOUT Poo-Bah (2,340) Nov 28, 2008 Illinois
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    Its called an opinion. You definately have an opinion that BCBS and KBS are superior beers. You have some curiousity and want to find something else that fits what your enjoying right now.

    my advise: do some beer research... make some trades...keep an open mind and you will find your answer to your question. Only you can make the final decision on the question that you pose. But Yes there are better beers out there besides BCBS and KBS; be very fortunate that you can get these beers(BCBS & KBS) on a regular basis. Cheers and happy hunting!
  12. dumptruckzzz

    dumptruckzzz Initiate (0) Oct 19, 2010 Pennsylvania

    I agree with this, its called an opinion. Please see my above post for reference
  13. YogiBeer

    YogiBeer Initiate (0) May 10, 2012 Illinois

    How much is it, usually?
  14. Kuester

    Kuester Initiate (0) May 14, 2012 Colorado

    It's been a while, but I believe around $20 per 12oz. Same as Rumpkin.
  15. YogiBeer

    YogiBeer Initiate (0) May 10, 2012 Illinois

    Sweet LORD.

    Evil twin needs to get in on that shit.
  16. Diotima

    Diotima Initiate (0) Jan 9, 2013 Wisconsin

    It doesn't stack up with the others in this thread in terms of intensity, but the 2008 BBA Schafly stout is a wonderful beer.
  17. ncaudle

    ncaudle Defender (602) May 28, 2010 Virginia
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    holy crap, that's the bar prices around here. if you could find it on shelves it was closer to $10
  18. okcommuter

    okcommuter Initiate (195) Dec 25, 2012 Michigan

    I tried BCBS for the first time this year and I think the hype got my hopes up. I thought it would taste a lot better, like it was made out of unicorn tears or something. I still have a couple I will try with some cellar time on them. I think there is a lot of hype surrounding many BA beers, but for what it's worth, New Holland's Dragon's Milk is pretty darn good. It is also easier to find, if it is available in your area. If you look to your left, you will see where my allegiance lies.
  19. BoneyardBrewer

    BoneyardBrewer Initiate (105) Apr 24, 2005 Michigan

    1. BB Plead the 5th
    2. BCBS
    3. KBS
    4. Parabola
  20. AlexFields

    AlexFields Meyvn (1,279) Dec 13, 2009 Tennessee
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    I think there are probably several dozen bourbon barrel stouts I've had that I liked better than KBS or BCBS (both of which are also great beers, don't get me wrong), so I guess I can't really relate to the feeling of dissatisfaction with hunting down rarer stuff.
  21. starrdogg

    starrdogg Champion (827) Jun 21, 2010 District of Columbia
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    I think there has been some misinterpretation on what I was trying to say with this thread. I'm not saying that BCBS and KBS are the greatest bourbon barrel stouts out there, necessarily. I'm saying that it's so rare that I seek out a new or rare bourbon barrel stout that's better than them that I'm dissuaded from wanting to make the effort to trade for anything else.

    These beers are two of the very best of their style, and since I can just buy them on the shelf where I live, why should I bother going out of my way for lesser or marginally better beers? I've had a ton of bourbon barrel stouts, including most of the stuff mentioned in this thread already, and I'd say there are really only two that are so much better than BCBS and KBS that I'd seek them out via trade again: Bourbon Vanilla Dark Lord and Silva Stout. That's it.
  22. Rollzroyce21

    Rollzroyce21 Meyvn (1,028) Oct 24, 2009 California
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    There should be a "Barrel-aged Imperial Stout" category.
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  23. GrindFatherBob

    GrindFatherBob Initiate (0) Apr 29, 2010 New York

    Silva Stout has only been mentioned twice in this thread? It easily beats out BCBS for me, I guess if it were distributed it would get a lot more attention.
  24. xanok

    xanok Disciple (369) Aug 13, 2009 Connecticut
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    Parabola is just as good as both of these, if not better.
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  25. JeepCop

    JeepCop Initiate (105) May 16, 2010 Kansas
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    Okay, after having revisited BBPt5th this evening, I've concluded it falls in at #3 for me. BCBS and Parabola still hold the top 2 spots. Bourbon County Stout has a smoothness and finish to it that I have yet to find elsewhere. If there is a better beer in the style, I would love to find it.
  26. LynnHomeBrewer

    LynnHomeBrewer Aspirant (207) Aug 3, 2010 Massachusetts

    Firestone-Walker Parabola.
  27. LynnHomeBrewer

    LynnHomeBrewer Aspirant (207) Aug 3, 2010 Massachusetts

    I agree! I'd say its tie between KBS and Parabola withe regular BCBS in top 10. BCBS is to syrupy for me
  28. alexipa

    alexipa Devotee (439) Oct 7, 2011 Colorado
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    Depends on where you get it, but at the brewery it's $10 (along with all small batch Avery brews) and $12 everywhere else in Colorado.
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  29. LynnHomeBrewer

    LynnHomeBrewer Aspirant (207) Aug 3, 2010 Massachusetts

    Indeed, although Black Xantus is Oak barrel aged instead of Bourbon barrel
  30. Rocket80

    Rocket80 Initiate (156) Nov 18, 2011 California

    BCBS and Parabola are absolutely delicious but my personal favorites are Epic BBB and the H24 Pugachev's Cobra.
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  31. starrdogg

    starrdogg Champion (827) Jun 21, 2010 District of Columbia
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    I had Pugachev's Cobra this weekend for the first time. That beer was not good. It was waaaay too sweet and boozy, like a bad version of Black Tuesday.
  32. paulys55

    paulys55 Zealot (587) Aug 2, 2010 Pennsylvania
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    Have we missed any? lol
  33. Brandywine

    Brandywine Initiate (0) Aug 20, 2012 Washington

  34. gpawned

    gpawned Initiate (0) Jun 5, 2012 Illinois
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    This is all crazy talk. It's like you guys are just yelling things like, coffee is WAY better than chocolate! NO! S'mores kick Vanilla's ass any day of the week! Shit you have no idea what you're talking about, Scotch is hands down so much better than Bourbon.

    Clearly everyone is going to prefer a certain flavor profile. And chances are depending on the age of the bottle and what you had to eat or drink beforehand you'll completely change your opinion the next time you try some of these side by side (the order probably makes a big difference too).

    Fresh KBS '12 had lots of Bourbon and some coffee. Today it has mellowed quite a bit but the coffee is coming through nice and strong.

    BCBS '12 is quite a bit thicker and has a lot more bourbon character than '12 KBS since it is 7 months younger. Also the vanilla is strong with this one.

    Central Waters '11 is like a thinner, less boozy BCBS '12 but the flavor profile is similar (somewhere between BCBS and Parabola). 1414 certainly makes up for all its little brother lacks. Can't wait for 15.

    Parabola '12 is drinking like someone poured Woodford over your s'mores. DRINK that shit now. holy crap.

    Abyss is a bit on the drier side of things with some nice smokiness.

    Cuvee Delphine certainly is a nice twist for the Belgian lover or if you just want something different.

    Last year's Eclipse EC12 is really nicely balanced.

    BA BORIS is too thin and light on the bourbon for my taste but those who like to age their BA stouts for a year or two might like that sort of thing.

    Apple Brandy Khukov and Rum Hunahpu are both magnificent if you like thick and sweet and boozy and complex.

    Surprised I didn't see anyone mention Olde Rabbit's Foot. That is a gem worth trying.

    How bout Jackie O's Bourbon Dark Apparition. That baby is mighty fine.

    Against the Grain/De Molen Bo & Luke? That sucker is Pappy aged. Try it if you ever have the chance. Damn good. Let it sit out over night and it transforms from a BB stout to a smoked stout...weird magic trick.

    Stop arguing about which is the best and drink more delicious beer.

    Edit: I'm sure 100 people are going to disagree with me about what these things taste like. I prefer that vs. someone disagreeing with me about which one is better. Maybe next time I try it, I'll look for the flavors you said you noticed. (Looking for green pepper the next time I try aged should look for Spaghetti O's the next time you try Hoppin' Frog Sweet Evil).
  35. Irishize75

    Irishize75 Initiate (0) Nov 4, 2012 California

    Personally, I think BBPT5 is in a class by itself. Although, I love KBS, I agree with some that it probably showcases the coffee a little more than most big bourbon barrel stouts, so it's kind of a different beast. BCBS is great, but I don't think it's appreciably better than Parabola.
  36. DevilsCups

    DevilsCups Initiate (0) Mar 3, 2010 New York

    Black Xantus is a blend of bourbon, oak and wine barrel aged stout. Basically like a baby Parabola.

  37. hopswap1

    hopswap1 Disciple (365) Apr 27, 2012 Illinois
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    Any updates on peoples opinions with the black note release? I'm planning on doing a small tasting of bcbs, kbs, bbpt5, parabola, and black note(all will be newest releases). Most likely will be doing this blind to make sure my personal opinions on each beer from previous tastings don't affect my rankings from this group. Any other top notch bourbon barrel stouts I should include? I'm excluding black tuesday, cbs, and bcbs varieties and trying to stick to things a bit more basic.
  38. vurt

    vurt Savant (942) Apr 11, 2004 Oregon
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    Not sure what you're getting at here. Ballast Point already has an imperial stout, and it's called Sea Monster.
  39. VncentLIFE

    VncentLIFE Meyvn (1,417) Feb 16, 2011 North Carolina
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    Abyss is worth your time, so is Event Horizon, BA Sexual Chocolate, ORF, Fullsteam IGOR, Silent Night, BA Blackout, BA Siberian Night, Black Note, and BA BORIS.

    So yes, searching out everything else. Dont pass up on Peruvian Morning either.
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  40. jstilwell

    jstilwell Disciple (334) Oct 21, 2008 Massachusetts
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    BA sexy C from the pappy's
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