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Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by SerialTicker, Jan 22, 2013.
We need Mythbusters to do a show on recommended beer glassware for popular styles of beer.
PtY for me in Styrofoam.
A big factor for me is in allowing for a good pour. If your pouring into an oversized tulip you can get a good amount of head on a beer to really release it.
I pour pretty much every beer in the same 8oz snifter.
I don't think that would be a good idea, it would result in a lot of good beer going to waste! I can envision these douche-bags shooting bottles of Rare out of cannons or some chit like that!
Depends on the style. A hefeweizen is something I most definitely want in a particular glass so the sediment can be rooted out.
Big hefty double IPAs and imperial stouts are something I usually put into a nice bulbous glasses that can release the aromas a bit.
An IPA or Pale Ale works just fine in a standard pint glass!
That being said...I'm not gonna hoot and hollar if a bartender serves me any/all brews in a pint glass. It gets the job done. Not everyone can be sophisticated craft beer drinkers like us BA nerds. After all...we are nerds.
From the majority of the serious responses it looks like wrong glass = tastes great, less smelling.
"The Majestic Pint
Dr. Michael Lewis, Ph.D., professor emeritus of brewing science at U.C. Davis, and highly regarded as one of beer’s leading advocates, is on a personal and professional campaign for a move back to what he calls the “majestic pint.” Simply put, he wants to dropkick the shaker glass back behind the bar where it originally came from. In a paper he just presented at the Master Brewers Association of the Americas (MBAA) World Brewing Congress, he states some jarring points about the spirits shaker:
Dr. Lewis’ Arguments Against the Shaker Pint
…almost all beer, whether craft-brewed or made by the national brewers, is served in the ugly, nondescript “Shaker” glass, or straight-sided pint, that fails in every dimension to promote and support the product.
The same glass is used throughout the bar and restaurant trade to serve water, soda, iced tea and milk; this assures beer of similar low-level commodity status instead of the premium status it deserves.
Though the straight-sided pint glass can be tarted-up with a logo to improve the perception of the beer it contains, the glass still offers no technical support for the product and cannot contribute in any significant way to enhancing the consumer’s experience.
…the glass [shaker pint] is almost perversely designed to dissipate those very items the glass should enhance—that is: to help stabilize foam and to help entrap beer aroma. Both these benefits best accrue when the glass is narrower at the top than below i.e. some variation of the tulip-shaped glass.
In speaking with Dr. Lewis about the majestic pint glass mission, he shared that as soon as one leaves the U.S., there is scarcely a shaker pint glass to be found. Based on his—and maybe confirmed by your beery travels too—the shaker pint is a phenomenon unique to the good ol’ US of A.
The MBAA has a new and very useful educational Beer Steward Certificate program that I’ve been working my way through as of late. In chapter five they address serving beer, and ask an interesting question: “How many $100 bottles of wine would a restaurant sell if the wine was poured into an iced tea glass?” Good point if you ask me."
While I agree with Vinnie and Natalie, why do they themselves sell shakers? hmmm
I think the biggest differences are shown in the smell and appearance (for appearance I always think about using weizen glass with a hefeweizen) but I am certainly not a stickler for always using the proper glass - I pretty much stick with with my tulip, snifter, and weizen glasses most of the time.
Yes and no. Beer isn't destroyed by a pint glass, but specialty glassware certainly accentuates it.
Much of it depends on the features - the curves, the opening, a nucleation point, etc, etc. Also, you experience beer with multiple senses, not just your tastebuds. Beer looks like shit in a shaker pint glass, but lovely in specialty glassware. And the right glassware with a nucleation point keeps the head up, which keeps the appearance and the aroma up. Changing the mental angles of sight and smell will enhance your tastebuds, even if the beer technically should taste the same.
Bottom line - it's rather pointless to not use a nice piece of glassware. You can certainly get by on a single Duvel tulip for 100% of your beers, and you don't need a huge collection, but the shaker pint should die.
The tulip or a cognac snifter are my go-to glasses. Def the smell factor is huge. But also isn't there a difference in the carbonation release/retention? I thought I read somewhere that skinnier glasses release carbonation slower than wide glasses. Thus drinking styles like a lambic & certain IPAs stay carbonated a bit longer & don't gain that syrupy taste as quickly?
It makes a HUGE difference as far as smelling the aromas and i believe a little in the taste.For example: i have had a shit ton of Smuttynose IPA in my time and have had it both out of my tulip and a pint glass and just like most ppl on this thread the tulip makes a difference as far as the aromas of the beer but i'll go a little further and say in the taste as well.Smuttynose or any beer for that matter doesnt smell or taste the same(at least to me) in a pint glass as it does out of a tulip...CHEERS
Taste and smell are so closely related, so if a glass has an effect on the smell, it will in fact have an effect on the taste.
My Samuel Adams perfect pint glasses do a fine job of concentrating aromas. But, I do feel a little fancier when I use my Cigar City snifter.
Snifter is my favorite. The Sam Adams glass is really nice as well. Its actually pretty simple why the shape of glass matters. More surface area will let off more aroma. The sense of smell and taste are intertwined. Plug your nose and drink your favorite beer....the flavor will change dramatically. The top of the glass of a snifter is smaller in diameter than the rest of the glass. This holds the aroma in the glass and around the top of the glass longer. The glass matters.
Shut up already; it's science!
I don't think it's as massive an issue as some would have you believe, but it does matter. The difference between using a tulip vs a weizen glass for a particular beer won't be as great as the difference between actually pouring into a glass vs drinking from the bottle/can.
Certain beers like barleywines, imperial stouts or Belgian strong ales will be best suited for a snifter because of the complexity of their aromas. The narrowed opening will enhance aroma (which is linked to taste perception) and will accomodate these styles' minimal carbonation. Meanwhile, an IPA could use a tulip because of the aroma enhancement and the slightly larger, angled out opening allows the brew to maintain its head. Pilsner glasses keep the carbonation nice and lively for Pils and other lagers of which this attribute is a hallmark.
Plus, different glasses make you look cool.
To me glass style does matters. Even though I only have two types of beer glasses. Two 16 oz nonic's and a 20 oz snifter. Thinking about getting a tulip. I love the snifter because it makes so much easier to swirl and agitate beer. Thus, releasing more aromas and flavors(and warms the beer a bit quicker). Especially, since I love smelling beer.
Like some has said, certain glasses does make a different for the array of beer styles. Which could be enhancing aroma, support head, and/or showcasing the beer's body. It is better to use a specially glass to enhance the beer experience. But sometimes, it comes to personal preferences.
If your entire hand is wrapped around a pint glass, how can your hand possibly cover more surface area on a snifter? Your hand only has so much surface-area covering capability, and that capability is way exceeded by the surface area available on a pint glass.
A better question would be, does the style of beer matter when drinking a beer? This site has made people so organized and rating-focused that I think sometimes they fail to recognize that beer comes before catEgorization, which is really only a tool for pundits and bloggers
I believe certain glasses can enhance the drinking experience depending on style/glass. I've had people say they don't taste a difference but that's not what it's about for me; rather enhancing specific characteristics that you need to look for in a beer. Aroma, drinkability, and just plain comfort come into play depending on which beer I'm drinking and which glass I choose.
I feel like snifters and the like make you look like a chick.
If you don't know the obvious answer to this question, it just means that you haven't tried enough beer.
It doesn't really matter as long as you use a straw.
I don't know about you, but I rarely see ANYONE completely wrap their hand around a pint glass of any variety.
It's usually only finger pads, and typically not even all 5.
More frequently though, I see others and myself "palming" snifters.
Why stop there?
Drinking beer from any glass instead of a bottle makes you look like a BA.
i voted no. The glassware may have some effect but not enough to care much about.
So we've learned that...
the point/purpose of just about anything will be lost on some people either through apathy or disbelief.
Welcome to Earth.
yes, you are correct on this. A pilsner glass does not show off the aromatics of a beer the same way that say, a wide mouth goblet or snifter does. There is a reason brandy and bourbon glasses are wider too.
It's just like narrow hips don't show off a woman's...
Just have a friend pour it into your cupped hands, you can trap all of the aroma while having an easily adjustable opening
I don't associate masculinity or femininity with drinking or glassware. But knowing which glass to use for which occasion does display a certain level of knowledge; that's not to say that that some dude who uses a pint for everything doesn't have more knowledge than the guy with a 10-cabinet goblet collection. Some people may see it as too much effort for too small a reward to use appropriate glassware, and that's fair enough. As I said, I don't think it has tremendous impact on your beer. I just don't understand when or why using the ideal tool for a job became uncool.
Just bought 8 styles of glasses BA recommends today. Usually pour all beer into a pint, but theres been so much uproar about it in the forms lately. Cost me $85. Hope glass makes a real diff. I also bought a boot haha
The hypothesis that different parts of the tongue are responsible for different flavors has been largely disproven.
That said, I definitely think it's true that certain styles of glassware may empirically make certain aspects of a beer more prevalent, but I've never seen any real science supporting that fact. Even those points in Dr. Lewis's paper barely rise above common sense (I would hope the actual paper has more technical details and that the folks at CraftBeer.com simply didn't report them).
Personally, as much as I might like to say that enhancing flavor/aroma is the main determinant of my glassware choices, historical use is really my main factor for a given beer.
If you're tongue is wider in the middle than at the front like everyone else then you have more taste buds in the middle of your tongue than in the front. While its true there's no such thing as flavor zones or whatever there are definitely areas with higher concentrations of taste buds.
Pretty much my go to glass for most everything. Don't really dig stems.
The Sam Adams glass is great. I don't favor the brewery.
I must have 40 or so glasses but I always end up using the same ones:
Low ABV beers - pint/pub glass, sometimes a mug
High ABV beers - goblet/chalice, sometimes a mug
German wheat beers - Weizen glass
It does make a slight difference to the flavour & aroma but I find it is minimal overall. I find temperature has more of an effect then choice of glassware.
I laughed out loud at this as it brought back memories of a work trip I was on in San Francisco. A work colleague/fellow beer lover from the area gave me a bottle of PtE. While sitting in my hotel room the night before flying home (a hotel that didn't have a bar I could grab a glass from) I resorted to drinking it out of a styrofoam coffee cup. That was my first PtE and I enjoyed it in style. For drawing that memory out of me I thank you...