"Dry January is pure evil to bars reeling from COVID"

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Todd, Jan 19, 2022.

  1. Todd

    Todd Founder (6,634) Aug 23, 1996 California
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    According to Johnny Oleksinski at the New York Post, participating in Dry January is now a "wholly selfish endeavor." :grimacing: What's your take?

    NY Post. I know. I'll save you a click:
    https://nypost.com/2022/01/18/dry-january-is-pure-evil-to-bars-reeling-from-covid/
     
  2. zid

    zid Poo-Bah (1,731) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    I think I know Pabst's take.
     
  3. beer_beer

    beer_beer Zealot (596) Feb 13, 2018 Finland
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    They could have better supply of NA beers. They are selfish.
     
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  4. DokiDokiLitFam

    DokiDokiLitFam Devotee (467) Jun 3, 2019 New Jersey

    Self-righteous sobriety? Are there people who actually do Dry January just for the bragging rights?
     
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  5. beer_beer

    beer_beer Zealot (596) Feb 13, 2018 Finland
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    Maybe they want it to be extended to February?
     
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  6. Shanex

    Shanex Poo-Bah (1,765) Dec 10, 2015 France
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    If I was closely following dry January, which I am not, it’d be for health related reasons, after the Holidays season which are never sober.

    For some other reason, I am mostly drinking at home during rough winter days. Don’t blame me for not going out in the cold, we have spring and summer to make up for the bars and pubs.
     
  7. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Poo-Bah (1,883) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Would you go to a bar and spend the same amount of money on a NA beer as a regular one?

    And are people going to order the same amount of NA beers as they do regular beers when they're out?

    What if you're a wine or cocktail drinker? Whiskey person?

    I'm not saying people are selfish who do dry January. But I don't think bars having more NA beers would solve the problem. Also, what are they doing with all that stock come February 1st? Should they change their inventory just for one month?

    Most of my bars do carry Athletic for what it's worth.
     
  8. Scotchboy

    Scotchboy Poo-Bah (3,033) Dec 7, 2010 Idaho
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    I was drinking around 10-12 beers a week from November through December and the holidays. Something like an extra 4000-4500 calories by my simple math. Dry January is a needed reset for me. Has nothing to do with me holding it over anyone's head.

    Drinking so much that I become physically and mentally unhealthy seems like more of a selfish endeavor to me but whatever.
     
  9. Jaycase

    Jaycase Poo-Bah (1,815) Jan 13, 2007 Illinois
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    Well, there is always the option for people to remain on the wagon for good come Feb 1st. This would then get rid of his mild annoyance and also help, oh wait,...
     
  10. beer_beer

    beer_beer Zealot (596) Feb 13, 2018 Finland
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    Yes, they could adapt. There are NA whisky/rum/gin alternatives too, especially for cocktails. And of course NA wine, plenty. Could make a lot of money too, if using some smart marketing strategy.
     
  11. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (5,438) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Maybe BA can start a 'movement' to change the dry month from January to February? :thinking_face:

    Because choosing the shortest month would be better! :stuck_out_tongue:

    Cheers!
     
  12. Harrison8

    Harrison8 Poo-Bah (5,261) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
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    I guess Sober October is not attended well enough to get an article, or are things just that slow for news in NYC? Maybe he should have a pint to relax? Certainly sounds like he could find a good seat.

    To be fair, I don't think Dry January has ever had any significant amount of "holier than thou" vibe. Certainly some people could present it that way, but it's the same with other health related decisions, i.e. nutrition choices, exercise regiments, rules on when to consume, etc. etc.. Regardless, there will always be others who are upset when you make decisions in your own best interest, so ultimately, do what is right for you.
     
  13. Resistance88

    Resistance88 Disciple (367) Apr 9, 2015 California
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    That guys an asshole .
    What a pointless self righteous article :sunglasses:

    People who worry or whine about what other people do are cowards and can fuck off.
    So you aren't profiting from your marked up beer that you sell. Deal with it.
    Here's a headline : Business owner sad people are doing stuff
     
  14. jesskidden

    jesskidden Poo-Bah (2,429) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Have you ever read a BeerAdvocate thread about beer and weight loss or fitness? Some have even featured "beefcake" style photos...:astonished:
     
  15. Shanex

    Shanex Poo-Bah (1,765) Dec 10, 2015 France
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    You have me worried about the term « beefcake » and I’d rather not Google it, what does it mean in a few words instead of a photo?
     
  16. jageraholic

    jageraholic Disciple (345) Sep 16, 2009 Massachusetts
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    I don't think I would call anyone making a decision not to drink for any reason selfish.
     
  17. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Poo-Bah (3,479) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    I would think there might be an element of curiosity that could exist that would get customers into the bars to experience these NA beverages if the bars did a little promoting of it. The trend is for many people to have a healthier lifestyle, so this might be a way for the bars to embrace the situation and join in (and profit from it).
     
  18. LesDewitt4beer

    LesDewitt4beer Meyvn (1,120) Jan 25, 2021 Minnesota
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    With the exception of music work I personally have not been going to bars/restaurants for months now due to the high transmission of the covid/omicron virus but my wife & I order food for pick up from local places. We don't feel safe now sitting there drinking. However I do support liquor stores by masking up & going beer shopping fairly regularly and I'm gonna continue to do it. If I need to 'dry out' it will happen when it needs to happen and not when a shower of people do it. IMHO Dry January is lame and it seems rather queer to schedule a dry out. (No offense to folks doing it. It's just not for me.) I feel sorry for struggling businesses and would agree that an observed Dry January, especially now, is causing further economic damage to them and others within the food/bev/entertainment industries. The days will come soon when bars are packed but for some not soon enough. Time for a beer now!
     
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  19. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Poo-Bah (3,479) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Picture the Chippendales and you got it. (The men, not the furniture.:wink:)
     
  20. jesskidden

    jesskidden Poo-Bah (2,429) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    The male version of "cheesecake" pics - the latter being 'G' (maybe into 'PG') photos of attractive young women in skimpy outfits or bathing suits, the sort that might decorate the calendar in a barber shop or the front office of the local gas station. (So, not the same calendar one might find in the employees-only Men's room or the inside lid of the mechanic's Kennedy box).

    Heck, since we're discussing the New York Post do they still have Page Six girls? (Haven't picked or thrown down in disgust a copy of The Post since I retired - there was always a issue bouncing around the shop.)
    Not the Disney chipmunks, either.:grin:
     
  21. budsNpils

    budsNpils Initiate (118) Aug 6, 2021 Texas
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    1 of my theories here but I would think that after a month of sobriety people would be hitting the bars/pubs and restaurants to do some catching up. Might be slow January but I would think it would pick back up in February. Not to mention people were just super active/busy for Christmas/new years . As much as I'd like to we can't be going balls to the wall 24/7, sometimes life calls for a break.
    I do feel for local and small businesses on their last leg tho. If dry January was going to make or break your business I'd be reevaluating my business plan.
     
  22. ESHBG

    ESHBG Disciple (396) Jul 30, 2011 Pennsylvania

    I would expect a drug dealer to be upset when their users dry up (pun intended) so no surprise here.

    Any goal one is aiming for is scheduled, not sure why this would need to be any different.
     
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  23. kp7

    kp7 Initiate (90) Feb 8, 2021 Massachusetts

    Seems like just another bizarre perception of how our bodies work. "I was binge drinking for 4 weeks so I'm going to stay sober for 4 weeks to offset it." Um... Pretty sure it doesn't work that way. If these "mostly young people" as the article says spent some more time on the wagon of moderation I bet they would be happier as they could drink without regret the year around...and probably remember more of the holidays as well.

    On a side note, if the breweries/bars are feeling the impact of the capriciousness of young drinkers, maybe they could brew/serve some more classic styles instead of going all in on the NEIPA/slush/desert stout craze.

    And yes, I realize that this post is a self-righteous complaint against the self-righteous other.
     
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  24. FBarber

    FBarber Poo-Bah (6,092) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    Seems to me that Mr. Oleksinski's article is a smashing success. People are talking about it.
     
  25. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Poo-Bah (2,028) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    I suppose I could just go xSTRAIGHTEDGEx and really make some change.
     
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  26. FatBoyGotSwagger

    FatBoyGotSwagger Poo-Bah (1,957) Apr 4, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Depends on how hard one binge drinks but if you binged for the buzz then just drank 4 weeks on and 4 weeks off will be good for you.

    Being overweight is far more unhealthy than drinking beer everyday.
     
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  27. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Poo-Bah (9,733) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    January is always the slow month. Folks have all the holiday gatherings to go to, and all the bills to pay. Having a quasi-organized movement like this just hurts more.

    I guess folks don't want to do it in February, cuz ya need drinks for the Superb Owl. Can't do it in March cuz St. Paddy's. April is tax day, so folks gotta drink then. May, you're into Summer drinking season........
     
  28. LesDewitt4beer

    LesDewitt4beer Meyvn (1,120) Jan 25, 2021 Minnesota
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    Most of my goals have no schedule. I can't speak for anyone else but myself. Cheers!
     
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  29. Providence

    Providence Crusader (793) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    I will start drinking twice as much to help out.
     
  30. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Poo-Bah (2,040) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    Not having a cocaine addiction is annoyingly self righteous in a normal year, but it's down right selfish in a year where covid and access to prescription stimulants has Bolivian peasant farmers reeling!
     
  31. ilikebeer03

    ilikebeer03 Poo-Bah (1,800) Oct 17, 2012 Texas
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    What?! I'll do whatever I want.

    It's not my responsibility to keep someone else's establishment running.
     
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  32. dennisthreeninefiveone

    dennisthreeninefiveone Initiate (134) Aug 11, 2020 New Jersey
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    Doesn't have to be a month, just a period of time. Like say the day after the Super Bowl until the 1st day of the baseball season. I try that every year, without much sucess! :confused:
     
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  33. cid71

    cid71 Initiate (141) Mar 2, 2009 New Jersey
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    Hes nothing but a troll
     
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  34. o29

    o29 Disciple (342) Sep 29, 2020 Texas
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    But wait, he's right! Taking care of yourself is selfish. How self-obsessed does one need to be to actively take precautions to preserve one's own long-term health? Very selfish, indeed!

    I suppose we should all be encouraging others not to drink since that is a selfless goal still aimed at improving health. I bet Johnny would really get behind that goal.
     
  35. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (5,438) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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  36. DIM

    DIM Poo-Bah (3,393) Sep 28, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    Meh.

    Hoss' steak house says the same about folks who go Vegan. Frito Lay says the same about folks who join weight watchers. Exxon says the same about Tesla drivers yadda yadda yadda...
     
  37. jesskidden

    jesskidden Poo-Bah (2,429) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Farriers said the same thing about the automobile... Oh, wait.
     
  38. DIM

    DIM Poo-Bah (3,393) Sep 28, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    lol

    Not gonna lie, had to look that one up.
     
  39. Urk1127

    Urk1127 Poo-Bah (2,012) Jul 2, 2014 New Jersey
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    I’d like to assume it’s some type of tongue in cheek thing but if it’s not some sort of trolling of very dry humor, I can not imagine taking time off alcohol for a “cleanse” or any health reason to be selfish lol. Plus covid is still a very real thing. But I’m the outlier introvert who prefers to stay home.
     
  40. Urk1127

    Urk1127 Poo-Bah (2,012) Jul 2, 2014 New Jersey
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    I have a straight edge tattoo on my hand lmfao. The irony of it all