Eclipse Worth The Price?

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  1. Brehnert

    Brehnert Initiate (175) Mar 17, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    My local store has a few Eclipse varieties (Brandy, Grand Cru, Four Roses, Rittenhouse Rye) but they're charging about $35/bottle! I've never had this before but figure it might be worth picking up just as trade bait since it seems so many people are looking for this. I just can't get past that that insane or is this beer really that good/rare???
  2. Agold

    Agold Defender (641) Mar 13, 2010 Pennsylvania

    Got mine for $30. I liked them a lot and I was happy having spent the money on them, but worth it depends on what you think. I think it is one of the beers that is more accurately priced. It doesn't sit around a long time, but you don't have to get on a list to get one (depending on where you are).

    Heard the 4 roses was not very good though so that might be one to avoid.
  3. OneBeertoRTA

    OneBeertoRTA Devotee (497) Jan 2, 2010 California
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    I prefer Parabole but Eclipse easier to get. Both great.
  4. SpdKilz

    SpdKilz Meyvn (1,359) Jan 8, 2009 Illinois
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  5. DarthKostrizer

    DarthKostrizer Meyvn (1,219) May 13, 2011 California
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    $35 is quite a bit of money. I personally love most treatments but I would not pay $35 for them especially when you can purchase futures (now sold out) for either $20 or $22 depending on treatment
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  6. peteinSD

    peteinSD Initiate (0) Apr 25, 2010 California

    i'd buy 'em and trade $4$ for goose island bourbon county stout.
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  7. Brehnert

    Brehnert Initiate (175) Mar 17, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    So maybe I'm better off just waiting until next year and jumping on some futures. Honestly, I'm not even looking to buy it for myself, it just seems like everyone wants it so it'd be a good one to have around for trades. On a scale of 1 to 10, how would you guys rate it's trade value?
  8. Brehnert

    Brehnert Initiate (175) Mar 17, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    I would definitely be interested in doing that if people were interested. What do BCBS and BCBCS sell for?
  9. litheum94

    litheum94 Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2008 California

    The Eclipse varients are really damn good. I've enjoyed the five or so that I've been able to try.

    That said, I don't think I'd ever buy one myself. It's just too much money, and there are much cheaper stouts (Parabola, BA Old Raspy) that are just as good.
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  10. SpdKilz

    SpdKilz Meyvn (1,359) Jan 8, 2009 Illinois
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    BA Old Raspy is $20+ a bottle for a 500ml... Eclipse is around $30 for 650ml. It's not crazy different price wise when comparing to BA Old Raspy, and for sure not to 2009 BA Old Stock which still lingers around here for $25+ a pop.
  11. ChanChan

    ChanChan Devotee (474) Dec 12, 2009 California
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    I've had the Elijah Craig 12th and 18th anniversary on-tap for $7.00 for a 6-OZ pour of each! They were both fantastic, I preferred the Elijah 12th. I bought a bottle of the Brandy edition for $30.00. Its pricey but worth it. Parabola would be just as good if not better tho!
  12. davey101

    davey101 Meyvn (1,080) Apr 14, 2009 Connecticut
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    Four packs run around $22-25. BCBCS was about $15
  13. SpdKilz

    SpdKilz Meyvn (1,359) Jan 8, 2009 Illinois
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    I honestly think you'd be hard pressed to find someone to trade most of the Eclipse beers for BCBS $4$. The Eclipse stayed around Chicago for months (still know a few places with them sitting there) and BCBS 2011 was insanely hard to get. If I could get 3-4 BCBS 2011 for the Eclipse I had, I'd do it in a heartbeat. But I feel (i.e. know) that won't happen often. But good luck!
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  14. litheum94

    litheum94 Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2008 California

    BA Raspy goes for $18 where I'm at, so that's why I mentioned that. It's the first time I've ever said BA Raspy is a cheaper option. :slight_smile:
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  15. SpdKilz

    SpdKilz Meyvn (1,359) Jan 8, 2009 Illinois
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    Well hell, if that was the case by me I'd buy them up! Fantastic beer!
  16. BOBPINCH666

    BOBPINCH666 Initiate (0) Feb 21, 2011 New York

    …in other words - Rittenhouse is easily worth ≈$35 (≥EC12/18), the rest no. Certainly not Brandy or GC…
  17. Tnudish

    Tnudish Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2012 Wisconsin

    Do you know how much founders imperial stout you can buy for one Eclipse?!?!?!
  18. RBassSFHOPit2ME

    RBassSFHOPit2ME Meyvn (1,126) Mar 1, 2009 California


    Especially not with Parabola sitting on the shelf for $14.99...
  19. Levitation

    Levitation Initiate (0) Aug 7, 2009 California

    i'd guess a 4. pretty much anyone could mailorder them a year ago, and they were distributed pretty widely on top of that. plus, they're not very good. even guys i pegged as eclipse shills have been rating them poorly.

    i'm eager to see the $35 asking price for this year's treatments aged in the barrels of $20 bourbons. that's when barrel-aging has officially jumped the shark.

    maybe i have a terrible sense of humor, but it genuinely makes me lol that a man given free rein with 6 different barrel treatments couldn't blend a good one. i think it conclusively says a lot about his palate.
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  20. OneBeertoRTA

    OneBeertoRTA Devotee (497) Jan 2, 2010 California
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    I wish Parabola's were on the shelf. I went on a mission to snag up my one and two bottle allocation from every store within 60 miles. I've drank at least a dozen and would love many more at the shelf price if they were out there.
  21. OneBeertoRTA

    OneBeertoRTA Devotee (497) Jan 2, 2010 California
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    I have the max on this year futures and would gladly trade most marquees for 2 BCBS a pop even though it's not $4$.
  22. HighWine

    HighWine Initiate (146) Dec 11, 2010 Illinois
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    I agree. That said, I like Eclipse. What CHI area stores so you know still have them?
  23. chcfan

    chcfan Devotee (466) Oct 29, 2008 California

    Not sure if they made an additional batch but if they only did one, I would not recommend trading for a 2+ year old coffee beer. It was fantastic relatively fresh, but is probably just a shell of its former self at this point.
  24. maximum12

    maximum12 Poo-Bah (3,694) Jan 21, 2008 Minnesota
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    I'd say a resounding yes.

    Eclipse makes some of my favorite barrel-aged stouts. The Rye was especially stellar.

    That said, this is one BA brew that doesn't age well. After 15-18 months Eclipse is a pale shadow of what it is fresh (the Evan Williams was an exception). So if you're going to pull the trigger, do it soon & drink it soon.
  25. azorie

    azorie Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2006 Florida

    No just no but hell no. I cannot even find that beer in the list got a link to it? many called Eclipse....
    No beer is worth that, at least not one under 15% abv. But that's just me, but there are many suckers out there overpaying for beer.
  26. FosterJM

    FosterJM Poo-Bah (2,719) Nov 16, 2009 California
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    IMO, Some are and some arent. Last years batch was a crap shot and the bottle variations make it a little iffy at times. Was I glad I bought one of each sure. Would I do it again. Probably not all of them. Only ordered 3 this year, but am still pissed I didnt buy more EC12. That IMO is the best one. And Leviation is right the Grand Cru was a joke.

  27. pschul4

    pschul4 Zealot (562) Jan 7, 2011 Illinois
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    Go in with a couple buddies on 1 bottle. That's what I did. It's worth the price to try once but I wouldn't be stocking up on bottles
  28. mdomask

    mdomask Aspirant (274) May 27, 2012 Illinois
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    I know Lush Wine and Spirits in West Town has a couple bottles left. Their other locations might have a few, too.
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  29. TheJollyHop

    TheJollyHop Initiate (0) Sep 2, 2009 California

    I agree. Only the Rittenhouse and Four Roses variants are worth that price.
  30. ASUBeer

    ASUBeer Aspirant (212) Nov 4, 2011 North Carolina
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    Personally I thought the Brandy was amazing.

    EC18 is also very good.

    Those are the only 2 2011s I've had.
  31. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Defender (637) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado
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    A personal decision all the way. Everybody's taste and price tolerance is different.
  32. aasher

    aasher Poo-Bah (2,653) Jan 27, 2010 Indiana
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    I really liked the EC 12 and EC 18 but the answer from me is still hell no. I've never understood why they're so expensive.
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  33. Zhiguli

    Zhiguli Initiate (140) Jul 12, 2012 California

    for me they're so worth it that i bought futures for the 2012 varietals. by far the dopest tasting i've ever been to was the Eclipse night where the beers were paired with the bourbon the beer was aged in. bourbon as chaser is rather nice
  34. OSUBeerStudent

    OSUBeerStudent Initiate (0) May 2, 2008 Washington

    I had four 2011 variants. Here's what I would pay for each one in the future:

    4 Roses - $0, really terrible
    Brandy - $5-10, ok but not better than much more common and less expensive BA stouts
    Grand Cru - $5-10, was ridiculously muddled, not how a grand cru should be, but might pay a bit to try one out with some age
    EC 12 - $20, by far the best of the four and comparable to other less expensive BA stouts. Still wouldn't pay the $30 again let alone $35. For that price you could (theoretically) get two 4-packs of KBS, more and better beer.

    Just to prove yet again that it depends on individual taste.
  35. stupac2

    stupac2 Zealot (518) Feb 22, 2011 California
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    I enjoy the Eclipses, but I think at that price I'd only buy the 18 (white wax).

    Also, for whatever weird-ass reason the Grand Cru was a lot better on tap than out of the bottle. It was my favorite at the party, then pretty disappointing from the bottles. Strange.
  36. da_bulls

    da_bulls Initiate (0) Jun 7, 2012 Illinois
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    Are you talking about the Rittenhouse Rye or most of the Eclipse's in general don't age well?
  37. SpdKilz

    SpdKilz Meyvn (1,359) Jan 8, 2009 Illinois
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    In my opinion and experience, most do not age well.
  38. maximum12

    maximum12 Poo-Bah (3,694) Jan 21, 2008 Minnesota
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    Yup. Most of them don't age well. The Rye in particular. That's a world-class A+ beer for me fresh, but after one year, it's just very good. But that's just one man's opinion (albeit one who generally likes barrel-aged beers aged).
  39. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Savant (968) Mar 17, 2009 Washington
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    Screw that. The bourbon costs less and tastes better. The Eclipse series is the biggest joke in craft beer hype. But no one wants to admit it.
  40. mindspin315

    mindspin315 Initiate (194) Feb 23, 2011 New Jersey
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    I bought the Grand Cru, Rittenhouse Rye, and EC 12 from last years batch. Drank the Grand Cru thought is sucked so I traded the other 2 for Huna's. I drank the EC18 with a friend a couple weeks ago and thought it was pretty good I feel like they vary so much from barrel to barrel version. But I can probably say that these are a joke at the price they go for and all the hype.
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