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Employees buying up limited releases

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by cactusleon, Feb 4, 2013.

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  1. cactusleon

    cactusleon Mar 4, 2006 New Jersey

    technically and in the long run yes, but if a business just sold to employees and no outside cutomers they wouldnt be in business very long
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  2. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Dec 9, 2011 Colorado
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    How about taking an employee out for lunch?
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  3. cactusleon

    cactusleon Mar 4, 2006 New Jersey

    thats what i said to the on worker there, its only beer, yes i would have like to have it but what could i do?

    its my go to store, i never chase beers or hoard, just looking for a good beer that they need to make more of ASAP
  4. bradcochran1234

    bradcochran1234 Jan 22, 2011 Georgia

    It doesn't count for people who are being greedy and trying to buy 2 cases from a store that only gets 4. And the only reason he didn't grab all 4 was because there wasn't a hand truck present. I show no love for people who are following trucks around to buy everything the day of a release. That stuff pisses me off and I will typically tell those costumers who I only see during those times to piss off. There are some crazy people out there and they don't have a sharing mentality.
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  5. cactusleon

    cactusleon Mar 4, 2006 New Jersey

    im not on that friendly terms with the employees there lol
  6. Nectar

    Nectar Jan 17, 2013 New Jersey

    If you do get a job there, please don't buy the limited releases. Id like a chance to get them. Thanks :)
  7. draheim

    draheim Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    Or doing his laundry? Or walking his dog?

    I hope you're kidding.
  8. aasher

    aasher Jan 27, 2010 Indiana
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    There's a whole lot of entitlement floating around in this thread....
  9. cactusleon

    cactusleon Mar 4, 2006 New Jersey

    hey, if i do, that the only reason im getting the job lol
  10. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Dec 9, 2011 Colorado
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    YuuuuuuuuuuuuuP I sure am.
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  11. cbeer88

    cbeer88 Sep 5, 2007 Massachusetts

    I don't think employees should be able to purchase the more limited stuff. Share one bottle amongst all the employees so everybody can taste it, but otherwise consumers spending money are what keeps your store afloat and stores should be more respectful of that. Best Buy or Walmart employees don't get to the purchase the hot deals in the weekly circular for precisely this reason. There are plenty of other ways to provide employee perks without touching the most limited stuff.
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  12. Snowrs

    Snowrs Oct 10, 2009 Indiana
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    I don't take them out to lunch but I do on occasion bring in beers that I acquire that can't be had in my state as a thank you as we'll as letting them broaden there beer experience. I will be getting Surly soon and I will bring a few to my fav local shop so they can try out that brewery. That is just part of being a BA.
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  13. fishtremble

    fishtremble Jan 18, 2010 Michigan
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    Yeah I have worked retail in my youth and I really don't think the store employees are the ones wiping out allocations unless suddenly that job pays a whole hell of a lot more than it use to. I could barely afford a budweiser hobby on that income so this doesn't really upset me too much. I think it is much more the people who go and grab their whole damn family and friends to each grab a six pack that makes it so tough for many of us to find anything remotely limited on the shelves within days of release.

    This topic used to get deep under my skin because I would waste my valuable time and gas driving all over for the chance to try something new and strike out more often than not, but basically there is still plenty of damn good beer for me to drink on the shelves everyday so until Vitus or La Fin Du Mond become a hard to get beer I can't cry. This is suppose to be a hobby not work so if the day comes that this becomes a chore I'll move on to something new and satisfying. Hell finally broke down over X-Mas and got myself a brew kit so now instead of being sore about missing out I'll just try to brew my own.
  14. cactusleon

    cactusleon Mar 4, 2006 New Jersey

    i wish i could do stuff like that, but this is the place i get my beers from lol
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  15. ESeab

    ESeab Jan 3, 2013 New Jersey

    That guy is awesome, good for him
  16. imbrue001

    imbrue001 Aug 6, 2010 Pennsylvania

    You have to let employees buy it first so they can taste it, and in turn, brag about how awesome it is to customers that can't have any.
    draheim, OneBeertoRTA, Errto and 2 others like this.
  17. nachos

    nachos Jun 4, 2012 Minnesota
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    summary of thread: Involves limited release. Some people did not get any, other people did. Some people happy, other people sad.
  18. cactusleon

    cactusleon Mar 4, 2006 New Jersey

    if anyone tells me how good Lagunitas Sucks was this year ill kill u all lol
  19. ESeab

    ESeab Jan 3, 2013 New Jersey

    Why? What if the employee came in on their day off and bought the allocated bottle/ 4-pack / 6-pack? Is that allowed? Share a bottle? If a store had 10 bottles and 20 customers want it should the store owner say, "you can buy this bottle, but only if you share it so everyone has a fair chance at trying it "

    Basically point is, an employee has every right to be a customer.
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  20. Tashbrew

    Tashbrew Dec 29, 2007 California

    I've been trying to find Cantillon in Northern CA for years. I might hear about it, but I live several hours from the Bay Area and can't leave on a whim when word it out that it's on the shelves. I know very little lands anywhere these days...but the stories about it never even gets on the shelves because the employees bought them...makes me sad. All said and done it's easier to fly to Brussels buy it there at reasonable prices tour the brewery and check it my luggage, and bring a shipper box and check it as well. (of course it will be more expensive overall but not too much and you actually get to acquire Cantillon..)
  21. cactusleon

    cactusleon Mar 4, 2006 New Jersey

    with that being said, then an employee should not be allowed to buy or hold a beer while on the clock or getting paid...
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  22. leedorham

    leedorham Apr 27, 2006 Washington

    Why? Seems like a rule you just now made up.
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  23. ESeab

    ESeab Jan 3, 2013 New Jersey

    Touche my friend. I'm just happy I don't have this problem and our store doesn't sell out of anything in one day (yet. I'm making a big push to make our store more know to the craft world)
  24. cactusleon

    cactusleon Mar 4, 2006 New Jersey

    its not a rule just an opinion, and yes i did just make it up, but its commenting on his post where hes saying an employee can come in on his day off
  25. Errto

    Errto Oct 20, 2009 Connecticut

    Agreed. Every job is shitty in some way or another. And yes jobs ought to have perks. But there's no automatic reason beer store employees ought to be entitled to this particular perk. And yes I did just use the "e" word. There's an awful lot of complaining on BA about entitled beer consumers, but clearly the same ideas apply to employees too.
  26. leedorham

    leedorham Apr 27, 2006 Washington

    Seems like you're just upset you didn't get your beer.
  27. PeterJ

    PeterJ Dec 5, 2012 California

    Not really a problem. My employees get first pick. Same limits as the customers though and they can't hold any for anybody eider. And you're also assuming that employees care about every single limited release. They really don't.

    You mean stop buying from the store because they were sold out of beer? Are you that ridiculous?
  28. JoeyDankNug

    JoeyDankNug Aug 4, 2011 New York

    It's really up to the store.do you want to make your customers or your employees happy?id make my customers happy
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  29. cactusleon

    cactusleon Mar 4, 2006 New Jersey

    yeah i was a bit upset, i wanted this beer, its not like i walked out happy that i couldnt buy it, but im not mad by any means, ive stated this many times in this thread, its just beer, i found another beer that day ad enjoyed it
  30. KevinGordon

    KevinGordon Dec 16, 2012 North Carolina

    nah, I stand behind my statement. Employees get first grabs. Are we not customers too? Are we not paying the same money you're paying? Of course we are. AND we have to deal with the crazies as stated above. Our management goes out of their way to make sure BOTH customers and employees are happy. We as employees go out of our way to make sure our customers are happy. But believe me when I say, we are getting ours.

    That being said, there has been many times I have given a customer beer that I was saving for myself.
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  31. Giovannilucano

    Giovannilucano Feb 24, 2011 Wyoming

    Hhaha I have been known to do this!
  32. cbeer88

    cbeer88 Sep 5, 2007 Massachusetts

    That's more of a gray area if they get the same fair shake at it as everybody else, but I'm not sure how you'd realistically pull that off. If it was a big timed release with ample notice and they had to wait in line like everybody else or something, then sure, that would probably be fine.

    But even then... It's not that employees can't be customers, it's that their paycheck only exists so long as the customers are happy, and thus a good employee should put the other customers' needs before their own. Maybe I take an old school view of customer service, but the customer is king. There are plenty of other ways to provide employees with nice perks that don't involve gobbling up 75% of a tiny release allocation.
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  33. SammyJaxxxx

    SammyJaxxxx Feb 23, 2012 New Jersey
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    I think it is bad business to let the employees buy a beer if you don't have enough for your customers.
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  34. leedorham

    leedorham Apr 27, 2006 Washington

    I think the solution is to let your employees buy whatever amount any individual customer could with the caveat that they cannot run their mouth about snatching it up. Just buy the beer and if somebody asks why it's gone, don't go telling them "on account of all the employees buying it up."
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  35. leedorham

    leedorham Apr 27, 2006 Washington

    In beer stores, your employees are typically some of your best customers and spread the most word-of-mouth advertising. It's good business to keep them happy & loyal.
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  36. cactusleon

    cactusleon Mar 4, 2006 New Jersey

    and if u gave me a beer u were saving for urself, it wold be a store id be a returning customer for, its all about customer service, holding a beer in the back for an employee is where it affects the customer in a negative way, like i said before, the title may be a bit misleading, but im ok with employees buying the beer, its when they start holding is when they arent there or whatever and im there while the beer is in the store and im willing to pay is where it would bug me a bit
  37. cactusleon

    cactusleon Mar 4, 2006 New Jersey

    but if they spread the word then u can even get their beers then its a lost cause
  38. Giovannilucano

    Giovannilucano Feb 24, 2011 Wyoming

    I remember discussing something in this regard, and since we all have many ways to think about it, some will converge and some will not.

    In this issue, I act like I would in all other areas of my life, and never worry about taking more then my share. Even if I was an employee at a bottle shop, I do not think of myself first. Since this is the way I am, I do NOT in any way suggest you do the same. No one has to follow, understand, or even respect your personal choice to be humble or kind. In my case, I go out of my way to bring beers to EVERY one I meet, whether it be other bottle shops, work, coffee houses, and the like.

    I do agree employees get first dibs but with the choice to choose first we forget that we can also choose to pass up as well.
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  39. KevinGordon

    KevinGordon Dec 16, 2012 North Carolina

    dont hate the players, hate the game. It freaking sucks to only get 1 or 2 cases of something special. But as stated, employees are customers too paying the same money. Its a consequence of having knowledgeable and well trained employees, instead of listless morons working in these places (debatable)
  40. JoeyDankNug

    JoeyDankNug Aug 4, 2011 New York

    I'm a manager at a bar and when we recently had bourbon county stout on draft I didn't let employees drink it.
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