ever use the hop Waimea?

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  1. Wiffler27

    Wiffler27 Meyvn (1,045) Aug 16, 2009 North Carolina

    it's a New Zealand hop with super high alpha % but can also be used for aroma. anyone ever use it?

    a local brewery makes an insanely good NZ IPA with Waimea, Motueka and Nelson. this thing is 7.4%, creamy as all hell and a great flavor, i get lime and citrus to it. it looks amazing in a glass too. it's a NE style IPA using only NZ hops, it's easily one of my favorite beers.

    I want to make an IPA that is creamy, citrus-y, and juicy yet smooth. i know a lot of that depends on yeast/malt but i'm more intrigued by the hop selection.

    i want to use 3 hops for this beer. so far i'm leaning Waimea + Simcoe + X. i'm not going for a pure NZ IPA but I do want a NE style IPA. What I know so far is my 3rd hop will be one of these:


    -Citra
    -Galaxy
    -Galena
    -Herkules
    -Mandarina Bavaria
    -Mosaic
    -Summer

    my favorite thing about homebrewing is the endless choices in recipe selection
    my least favorite thing about homebrewing is the time between brewing and drinking
     
  2. pweis909

    pweis909 Poo-Bah (1,965) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    I brewed this a few months back. Hops came across as tangerine.Strongly so.

    Style: American Pale Ale
    TYPE: All Grain

    Recipe Specifications
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    Batch Size (fermenter): 5.25 gal
    OG 1.059
    FG 1.006

    Ingredients:
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    5 lbs Brewers Malt 2-Row (Briess) (1.8 SRM) 50.0 %
    4 lbs Goldpils Vienna Malt (Briess) (3.5 SRM) 40.0 %
    8.0 oz Carafoam (Weyermann) (2.0 SRM) 5.0 %
    8.0 oz Caravienne Malt (22.0 SRM) 5.0 %
    0.28 oz Nugget [13.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min 12.3 IBUs
    0.28 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 10.0 min 1.9 IBUs
    0.28 oz Nugget [13.00 %] - Boil 10.0 min 4.5 IBUs
    1.00 oz Waimea [17.50 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 20min 17.8 IBUs
    0.50 oz Nugget [13.00 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 20.min 6.6 IBUs
    0.50 oz Centennial [10.00 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 20min 5.0 IBUs
    0.28 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 20min 1.6 IBUs
    1.0 pkg Safale American (DCL/Fermentis #US-05) Yeast 12 -
    2.00 oz Waimea [17.50 %] - Dry Hop 10.0 Days
    0.50 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Dry Hop 10 days
    0.50 oz Centennial [10.00 %] - Dry Hop 10 Days
    1.83 oz Centennial, dry hop in keg [10.00 %]
    1.00 oz Waimea, dry hop in keg [17.50 %]
     
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  3. Wiffler27

    Wiffler27 Meyvn (1,045) Aug 16, 2009 North Carolina

    interesting that it came through strongly with all the other hops. i'm thinking 1 oz Waimea at 60 and then like .33oz per hop (3 different kinds: Waimea + Simcoe + X) at 10 and then ~1oz each at whirlpool and ~1oz each at dry hop
     
  4. pweis909

    pweis909 Poo-Bah (1,965) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    As I look over my dry hops, I feel I shouldn't discount the impact of the second dose of centennial. They sometimes get described as orangey, although I have always gotten more of grapefruit aroma from them. It could be that centennial + waimea = tangerine? But I used 4 oz of late addition Waimea, so maybe it is not too surprising that something stood out.
     
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  5. Lukass

    Lukass Meyvn (1,413) Dec 16, 2012 Ohio
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    I'd save the 1 oz that you are planning on adding at 60 for another late addition instead. Bitter with a high alpha hop to get the same amount of IBUs that you are aiming for. Just want to make sure you get the full benefits of the Waimea :slight_smile: after 60 min in the boil, it will attribute hardly any flavor/aroma, just bittering.
     
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  6. DrMindbender

    DrMindbender Savant (926) Jul 13, 2014 South Carolina

    I have had bad luck with a few NZ hop strains lately being bad and creating some of the only bathes I've every dumped...I got some Waimea from Yakima Valley and from Northern Brewer and both were bad. I've used Waimea many times before to get big passion fruit flavor and aroma, but both of these 8oz bags from different sources gave me rotten walnuts in the final product. I used some Moteuka from Yakima Valley that have the same off flavors. I've never had that happen in any batch before or after that.

    Not saying to steer clear, just check these hops for off smells and appearance before you use them...the ones I used had a slight brown tint to them, which should have told me to not use them in the first place.
     
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  7. jmarsh123

    jmarsh123 Meyvn (1,319) Mar 31, 2010 Indiana
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    I used this in a single hop pale a while back and was a big fan. It smelled really piney, but was more Amarillo/Cascade like in flavors. I like it.
     
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