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"Extras" poll

Discussion in 'Beer Trading Talk' started by cavedave, Aug 7, 2012.


What do you send as extra

  1. I always send extras, average more than two bottles

    155 vote(s)
  2. I always send extras, average one or two bottles

    89 vote(s)
  3. I always send extras but the quantity varies greatly

    80 vote(s)
  4. I sometimes send extras, average one or two bottles

    13 vote(s)
  5. I sometimes send extras but the quantity varies greatly

    5 vote(s)
  6. I don't usually send extras

    3 vote(s)
  7. I never send extras

    1 vote(s)
  1. cavedave

    cavedave Poo-Bah (2,062) Mar 12, 2009 New York
    Beer Trader

    I always send extras, usually two or more bottles, but sometimes only one, or sometimes many. I have gotten extras in over 90% of the trades I have made, they vary from one bottle to as many as six bottles. Extras are just that, extra, and if I don't receive it is no big deal, but I admit sometimes I have been stupidly outdone with extras in a trade, and in other trades I have sent a few good'uns and received none.

    Now that we can poll, I thought this oft-covered topic might be ripe for polling.

    What are your experiences and thoughts?
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  2. franklinn

    franklinn Initiate (0) May 29, 2012 Vermont

    I only didn't send an extra on my first two trades, but since then I've always included some. The number varies greatly, based on what I have at home/readily available and the size and scope of the trade
  3. ehammond1

    ehammond1 Initiate (0) Jul 4, 2008

    As far as I remember, the only time I didn't send extras was when I was sending 12 agreed-upon bottles in a 12-bottle shipper, and we explicitly increased the size of the trade to fill the shipper.
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  4. kzoobrew

    kzoobrew Initiate (0) May 8, 2006 Michigan

    I always send extras though how many largely depends on who I send to and the trade that was worked out. If it is one of my regular trading partners in a neighboring state which happens to share a lot of distribution I throw in what I can but is may be minimal due to options. Someone outside of the distribution of my locals with a lot of wants I can hit is in for a fair number of extras. If I am sending a rather large box I will send what extras I can but am not going overboard due to safety and financial concerns. If I am trading just a sixer I have often included 6+ extras to make the box worth shipping.
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  5. FosterJM

    FosterJM Poo-Bah (2,602) Nov 16, 2009 California
    Beer Trader

    All varies really. Depending on rapport with the person, depending on the wants I can hit, depending on size of the original trade. Always generally more than 2 though. I just sent a 6 pk shipper and I included 4 extas. Was only a trade for 1 beer and a glass. Seems fair to me. Sent 2 22oz, 1 16oz can and a 12oz IPA, not in his distro area.

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  6. MaxSpang

    MaxSpang Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2011 Ohio

    The more the merrier. I throw in at least 3 bottles for most of my trades, but if it's a regular trading partner then I'll throw in all kinds of crap.
  7. NiceFly

    NiceFly Aspirant (275) Dec 22, 2011 Tajikistan

    I do not trade much, but when I do it is an event for me.

    I like to send a box that the receiver is really happy with when the open it. Since my cellar is as deep as a rain puddle that means a bunch of extras.

    Not that is should be a contest, but I like to send better than I get. Otherwise I get pissed off and some of you have really pissed me off in a past life;).
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  8. OrificeBizarre

    OrificeBizarre Initiate (0) Aug 4, 2012 Texas

    i usually send extras i can and i include stuff from my area like candies
  9. Ungertaker

    Ungertaker Devotee (443) Apr 30, 2010 Minnesota
    Beer Trader

    I didn't include extras on my first trade (but shipped them ten months after). Since then, I have always included a couple. Regular partners seem to get borderline ridiculous with the extras we end up including (I always shoot for wants in the extras with them).
  10. Pahn

    Pahn Meyvn (1,448) Dec 2, 2009 New York
    Beer Trader

    if it's a small trade i might send 1~2 extras, but usually more.

    i'm not sure what i'd do if i was trading lots of main trade bottles... but it's also unlikely that i'd do that, since most of my trades are built around 1 particular beer on 1 side of the trade.

    at the moment, most of my trades are like, "i'll send an X and some other stuff, you send some stuff," so the idea of something being 'extra' is a bit of a stretch anyway.
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  11. RC0032

    RC0032 Initiate (65) Mar 10, 2009 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    Is it that time of the month again? An extra thread!! Ya!!!!!
  12. Thehuntmaster

    Thehuntmaster Initiate (0) Sep 2, 2009 South Africa

    I do international trades, so it is usually agreed to not send extras. If shipping cost was not an issue however, I would always through in a few nice extras!
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  13. match1112

    match1112 Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2011 Illinois

    The amount of extras I send depends on the person I'm trading with and the box I have on hand to ship in. I don't like to pay to ship air so I pack it full of beer. Also I don't always have access to heavily sought after beers so I try to kill them with quantity.
  14. dvelcich

    dvelcich Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2008 Illinois

    I definitely average more than two extras. I even throw in one or two when we agree to no extras (this means you Foster). The only trade I can remember not including an extra was an in-person with cadaugherty. I rushed out of the house without grabbing something, and I regretted it because, not only did he hook me up on the trade, he remembered to bring an extra. :rolleyes:
  15. FosterJM

    FosterJM Poo-Bah (2,602) Nov 16, 2009 California
    Beer Trader

    You bastard!!! Now I look like a schmuck on the interwebz! At least you have me in person and know how awesome I am! At least not as handsy as Jeff though.

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  16. cavedave

    cavedave Poo-Bah (2,062) Mar 12, 2009 New York
    Beer Trader

    I couldn't find it, so perhaps you could put a link into this thread so we could compare that poll with this one. It might be fun to see the different results with time factored in. Thanks.

    Haha yeah I guess it is "that time of the month" again;)
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  17. thebouch01

    thebouch01 Devotee (432) Jun 26, 2008 Pennsylvania
    Beer Trader

    I probably average 3-4 extras per trade. I always include 1-2 solid locals and then try to hit wants as best as possible. In a recent trade I was able to add 4 wants with little effort, so they went in the box. If everything doesn't fit in the box, I grab a bigger box...
  18. cavedave

    cavedave Poo-Bah (2,062) Mar 12, 2009 New York
    Beer Trader

    >copying thebouch01 into list of people I really want to trade with<
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  19. daysinthewake

    daysinthewake Initiate (0) Nov 13, 2010 California

    I always shoot for 3-4 extras. Sometimes more.
  20. ablackshear

    ablackshear Initiate (128) Sep 17, 2010 Colorado
    Beer Trader

    Not a frequent trader, but I try to include local stuff from small breweries that the trader would probably never otherwise get, and I'll take a look at wants and either include one of those or something that I think they'd want based on those
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  21. mikecharley

    mikecharley Disciple (399) Nov 6, 2008 Pennsylvania
    Beer Trader

    I generally try to include one extra for every 2 agreed upon bottles. Sometimes a little more, sometimes a little less
  22. DaveHack

    DaveHack Champion (803) Mar 28, 2011 Pennsylvania
    Subscriber Beer Trader

    I always send extras....I usually hook up regular partners as best as I can. If someone makes a very fair trade, or if i feel I'm getting 'the better end of the deal' and even it with extras. I always take the time to see their wants, distribution, and favorite style. This ensures I don't send things my partner hates that are also sitting on their local shelf
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  23. ejeffer11

    ejeffer11 Aspirant (254) Feb 15, 2008 New York
    Beer Trader

    typically a couple, but sometimes I only include one really good extra. most trading partners have been very generous, but if I don't receive any extras, no big deal.
  24. dvelcich

    dvelcich Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2008 Illinois

    Shut up and take it, and btw, you looked like a schmuck long before I came along. ;)
  25. pschul4

    pschul4 Zealot (562) Jan 7, 2011 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    I've always included at least 34oz of extras (1 bomber + 1 12oz, or more) But for pretty much all of my future trades I'm going to be sending out 2 pipeworks bombers as extras until everyone realizes how delicious their beers are
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  26. FosterJM

    FosterJM Poo-Bah (2,602) Nov 16, 2009 California
    Beer Trader

    Well played sir. Well played.
    What is this a porn? "Shut up and take it" You Nappy guys scare me....;)

  27. boogercrack

    boogercrack Initiate (170) May 24, 2012 Texas
    Beer Trader

    Fairly newish trader here, and I seem to find selecting extras more fun than actually setting up the trade.

    It's so much more interesting than actually agreeing on "you send this, i'll send that".

    I'll ponder their wants list, highly rated hads list, and local distribution charts, and try and hit their wants or drill them with something that i'm making an educated guess on that they'll like based off of their reviews that they might not have heard of before.

    I've had a couple of small trades that I sent more in extras volume wise than the trade. I've been destroyed with extras before on some trades.

    It's a pretty awesome community.
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  28. thagr81us

    thagr81us Initiate (0) Apr 28, 2010 South Carolina

    Mine really depends on the trade at hand if I send or not. I usually do, but not always. I did just send 4 extras with a trade headed to Arizona though...
  29. dmeadows

    dmeadows Initiate (0) Aug 6, 2002 New York

    I always include extras and do my best to see that at least one is from the recipient's want list.
  30. BigTomZ

    BigTomZ Initiate (0) Apr 14, 2009 Virginia

    The number of extras I send depends on the space left in a shipper and quality of the extras. at 1 bottle. If I am sending 1 bottle I try to make it something really good or limited. If I have room for more I might send several locals.
  31. Sarlacc83

    Sarlacc83 Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2008 Oregon

    Unless I agree not to do extras with the other trader, I include enough to fill the styro. From there, if I've only got a spot or two, I try to include something really nice. If I've got a couple spots, I try to get some new bottles from new breweries in there.
  32. Allsmoke

    Allsmoke Initiate (0) Aug 11, 2007 Virginia

    I usually do about 3 extras. That seems like a doable amount without jacking up the shipping too bad. But reading through this, I usually just look at the shipping address, then hit up seekabrew to see what I can get them that I think is good but they can't get there (with a preference to my local brews here)

    I never look at wants lists. Not because I'm being a dick, but because I haven't taken the time to set up my own wants/gots stuff so I never think about that.

    Does that make me an unintentional trading douche-bag?
  33. ShogoKawada

    ShogoKawada Meyvn (1,247) May 31, 2009 Pennsylvania

    back when I traded I tried to throw in some goooood extras, but sometimes due to time, space, or budget, it was knocked down to good locals. Usually more than one or two, but varies wildly. I've traded out with some regular partners where we're throwing 8-12 extras in each box. Gets exhausting, but the payoff is worth it.

    I used to send cantillon as extras. What an idiot.
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  34. quirkzoo

    quirkzoo Initiate (0) Jul 7, 2011 Colorado

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  35. miketd

    miketd Zealot (515) Mar 2, 2006 Ohio
    Beer Trader

    I always send them, unless it is agreed upon before the trade "no extras"(I still might send a couple). For me it's a good way to send out local favorites or just good stuff I have sitting around that I've had before. Don't really care if I get extras back, but they are appreciated.
  36. axeman9182

    axeman9182 Initiate (0) Aug 5, 2009 New Jersey
    Beer Trader

    I always try to include extras, hitting wants if possible. My usual goal is to include either one bomber and one small bottle, or three small bottles. If I have some homebrew laying around that I'm happy with I'll throw bottles in as well (not counting that towards my target amount for extras). I'll also throw in more extras if the trader is helping me out in some way (agreeing to wait until we ship, putting in legwork around town to find beers, taking a hit on rarity end of the trade).
  37. EasyReader

    EasyReader Disciple (371) Mar 30, 2009 North Carolina
    Beer Trader

    Like most who have posted, I always send extras. I usually send a few; if I have something nice handy, I'll send it. I try to always send a good local or two, and always enjoy receiving them as well. I've gotten some well selected locals that have turned out to be the real gems in the trade.
  38. harrymel

    harrymel Initiate (0) Dec 15, 2010 Washington

    Second this motion. Please place to a vote.
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  39. cavedave

    cavedave Poo-Bah (2,062) Mar 12, 2009 New York
    Beer Trader

    I too have done the same as you and Mr. Kawada based on the advice I was given by a great BA who shall remain nameless that if you don't know what to extra, "You can't go wrong with a Cantillon."
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  40. atoulouk

    atoulouk Initiate (0) Apr 25, 2011 Indiana
    Beer Trader

    I would say that I average about 2 extras, but most of the trades I have done have been smaller in scale. It all depends on what I have on hand and how much distribution I share with who I'm trading with. I'm probably not going to run to the store to buy things that the other trader can get around them for the sake of sending a certain number of extras, but I always send at least 1.
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