Online Extreme Beer Fest: Cyberspace (2021)

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  1. Todd

    Todd Founder (6,504) Aug 23, 1996 California
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    Yes. That’s my understanding.
     
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  2. Todd

    Todd Founder (6,504) Aug 23, 1996 California
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    Heads up! We're at 90% sold and anticipate selling out by this Friday.
     
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  3. HawkEye19

    HawkEye19 Initiate (118) Jun 15, 2006 Minnesota

    I'm very curious as to what regulations need to be changed in Minnesota, as I have had wine, hard alcohol and beer all shipped here from retailers.
    It's very disappointing to see that excuse used.
     
  4. HawkEye19

    HawkEye19 Initiate (118) Jun 15, 2006 Minnesota

    Half Time ships to Hudson, Wisconsin, but not to North Hudson? Very odd
     
  5. Todd

    Todd Founder (6,504) Aug 23, 1996 California
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    From what Half Time has said, it has to do with state restrictions in Minnesota. Why is unknown to me, but I'm interested in learning more and it's not because they don't want to ship to Minnesota.
     
  6. MNAle

    MNAle Poo-Bah (2,195) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota
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    The last I knew, beer shipped commercially into MN can only be received by a licensed distributor. But, it has been a number of years since I looked into this (and I am definitely NOT an attorney).

    I have no idea how others skirt this law / regulation (e.g. Tavour - perhaps their shipping partner has the required license?).
     
  7. HawkEye19

    HawkEye19 Initiate (118) Jun 15, 2006 Minnesota

    Odd how beer of the month clubs can ship here to Minnesota. Wouldn't they also he bound by the same law/regulations
     
  8. MNAle

    MNAle Poo-Bah (2,195) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota
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    I have no idea how some of these business operate legally.

    I found this at sovos.com (Sovos ShipCompliant)

    This is SEVERELY excerpted. (IOW, this is probably more complicated that this excerpt implies.) This also may be out of date. As I said above, I'm no lawyer. Everything below is a quote from the web site.

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    When reviewing this information, keep the following in mind:
    The rules we’ve compiled here only reflect regulations that a state would impose on a beer supplier located in a different state...

    Minnesota

    How is beer defined?
    340A.101 15a. Low-alcohol malt liquor. “Low-alcohol malt liquor” is a fermented malt beverage containing two percent or less of alcohol by weight. Notwithstanding any law or rule to the contrary, if either; (a) the term “low alcohol” appears on the label of the beverage container; or (b) a brewer has provided written certification to the Department of Public Safety establishing an alcoholic content of two percent or less by weight; no further label shall be required on that container.
    16. Malt liquor. “Malt liquor” is any beer, ale, or other beverage made from malt by fermentation and containing not less than one-half of one percent alcohol by volume.

    Can I Self-Distribute to retailers?
    No

    Can I ship Direct to consumers?
    No

    LICENSING
    WHAT LICENSE IS REQUIRED?
    Malt Beverage Importer’s License

    HOW MUCH DOES THE LICENSE COST?
    $1,600 annually

    DO I NEED TO HAVE MONEY HELD IN BOND?
    No

    IS THERE A REPRESENTATIVE LICENSE?
    Yes – not required to have a salesperson, but representatives need to receive an id card for $35 annually

    REGISTRATIONS
    DO I NEED TO REGISTER PRODUCTS FIRST?
    Yes – Brand

    DO I NEED TO POST PRICES?
    No

    DO I NEED TO FILE MY DISTRIBUTOR AGREEMENTS WITH THE STATE?
    Yes

    DO I NEED TO FILE MY TERRITORY ASSIGNMENTS WITH THE STATE?
    No

    DISTRIBUTION PROCESS
    HOW CAN I GET SAMPLES OF PRODUCTS TO RETAILERS?
    No more than 3 gallons of any brand, limited to brands not purchased by retailer in previous 12 month

    DO I NEED TO BE AWARE OF FRANCHISE RULES?
    Yes

    ARE THERE PRIMARY AMERICAN SOURCE RULES ON DISTRIBUTOR’S PURCHASES?
    Yes – brands may be only registered by primary sources or their authorized agent; wholesalers may only purchase from brand registrants

    DO I NEED TO MAKE SURE MY BEER COMES TO REST AT THE WHOLESALERS WAREHOUSE?
    Yes

    FILINGS
    WHAT’S THE STATE’S EXCISE TAX?
    $2.40 per barrel for beer at an under 3.2%ABW; $4.60 per barrel for beer above 3.2%ABW

    AS AN OUT OF STATE SUPPLIER, AM I RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING EXCISE TAXES?
    Yes

    DO I NEED TO FILE A REPORT WITH THE STATE ON WHAT I’VE SOLD?
    Yes – monthly LB41, includes tax payment

    -- https://www.sovos.com/shipcompliant/resources/beer-distribution-rules-by-state/#minnesota
     
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  9. Todd

    Todd Founder (6,504) Aug 23, 1996 California
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    Update: Less than 100 packages remain!
     
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  10. GRG1313

    GRG1313 Poo-Bah (3,853) Jan 15, 2009 California
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    Ok, ok....I bought my package today. I've attended several Extreme Beer Fests in Boston where we made it a family vacation with my wife and adult daughters and their husbands. I believe that we had an Extreme here in Los Angeles that I attended, as well. (Was that the Festival or was it another?)

    In any event, and while we've gone to dozens of beer festivals for a decade or more across the country, BA's Extreme was always our favorite, even when it was held in that crazy small location and we had to wait outside in very cold weather (especially for we Los Angelinos!) But, it was always a great festival and unique experience. Candidly, even the "bad" beers were good and fun to try! They were always well organized and well run so I have no reason to believe that this new format will be anything but well done.

    So, my kids in Denver and I, here in Los Angeles, bought tix for this new "unique" experience. I'm hoping for the best. While not the same as a crowded "in person" Festival, I'm looking forward to trying this format and hopefully trying 10 unique beers. I hope this works for everyone's sake! I'm keeping a positive attitude.
     
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  11. Btweedie87

    Btweedie87 Initiate (58) Oct 16, 2017 Rhode Island

    Really looking forward to this. Got mine a few weeks ago and cannot wait for the beers and the virtual tastings. Gonna be fun
     
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  12. TylerKitchens

    TylerKitchens Aspirant (270) Apr 9, 2014 Massachusetts

    Are people already getting the packages?
     
  13. Todd

    Todd Founder (6,504) Aug 23, 1996 California
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  14. TJSoundguy

    TJSoundguy Initiate (108) Jul 13, 2013 New York

    OK, I'm in. Package purchased. Looking forward to the tastings & the discussion.
     
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  15. Todd

    Todd Founder (6,504) Aug 23, 1996 California
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    Update: Less than 50 packages remain!
     
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  16. Todd

    Todd Founder (6,504) Aug 23, 1996 California
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    Update: Only 10 packages remain!
     
  17. Todd

    Todd Founder (6,504) Aug 23, 1996 California
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    Extreme Beer Fest: Cyberspace is officially sold out!

    Thanks for the support and stay tuned for more updates...
     
  18. sulldaddy

    sulldaddy Poo-Bah (4,126) Apr 6, 2003 Connecticut
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    Wow! Congrats! Must have scratched an itch for a lot of folks!
    Definitely looking forward to this event!
     
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  19. Todd

    Todd Founder (6,504) Aug 23, 1996 California
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    For 2,750 folk to be exact. Looking forward to exploring the box with all of you in February!
     
  20. cryptichead

    cryptichead Poo-Bah (1,677) Jul 3, 2014 Illinois
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    In hindsight, would you have aimed for a higher ceiling? Or is 2,750 the logistical capacity for an event of this type? I guess since this is a first of its kind, there will be a lot of learnings for the next one. Can't wait!
     
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  21. Todd

    Todd Founder (6,504) Aug 23, 1996 California
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    In hindsight, and with nearly a month before the sales deadline, we could've definitely aimed higher. And yes, there's plenty of learning that we'll apply to future virtual fests.
     
  22. lisaaz

    lisaaz Initiate (73) Jun 28, 2009 Arizona

    I ordered the beer, and put the dates on the calendar.

    Next, are there any suggested food pairings for the various beers? Gotta eat something with all the drinking that will be going on.
     
  23. Todd

    Todd Founder (6,504) Aug 23, 1996 California
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    Thanks for the support!
    I usually post survival guides for our in-person fests, but this just inspired me to do one for Cyberspace. More to follow...
     
  24. Todd

    Todd Founder (6,504) Aug 23, 1996 California
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    Quick Update & Some Fun Stats

    First, an update. I'm currently working on access to the fest forum and content. Basically you'll enter in a code that'll be emailed to you and your account will be synced and granted access. More on this soon.

    Second, some fun stats.
    • Out of 2,756 total orders, 1,364 of the emails associated with orders matched an existing BeerAdvocate user account and 797 emails matched an email associated with ticket purchases from our in-person events within the last two years or so.
    • Packages were purchased in every state that Half Time ships to, including DC.
    • The largest number of orders came from Massachusetts (531) and New England accounted for roughly 30% of all orders. Deep roots!
    • After MA, the 5 states with the most orders were: CA (250), NY (221), PA (219), VA (175), and NJ (147)
    • Breakdown of orders by state:
      • AK: 4
      • AZ: 31
      • CA: 250
      • CO: 76
      • CT: 141
      • DE: 18
      • DC: 28
      • FL: 81
      • ID: 9
      • IL: 107
      • IN: 45
      • IA: 6
      • LA: 2
      • MA: 531
      • NE: 12
      • NV: 17
      • NH: 96
      • NJ: 147
      • NM: 7
      • NY: 221
      • ND: 1
      • OH: 96
      • OK: 12
      • OR: 37
      • PA: 219
      • RI: 34
      • TX: 125
      • VA: 175
      • WA: 53
      • WI: 32
    Finally, thanks again for your support! Looking forward exploring the beers and hanging out with @SamCalagione, guest brewers, and thousands of you in Cyberspace next month!
     
  25. gclaw4444

    gclaw4444 Initiate (79) Jul 30, 2015 Massachusetts
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    I'm surprised it's so heavily dominated by MA. I suppose it's mostly MA people going to the in-person fest and those are the ones more likely to want to participate in the online fest. I would have guessed since it's just as easy for everyone (where Halftime ships to) to "go" to the fest it would be a more even spread.
    This does remind me that i'll have to stop by KO pies this month, and i'd encourage the other 530 Massholes to do the same.
     
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  26. Todd

    Todd Founder (6,504) Aug 23, 1996 California
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    Yeah. BA was born in MA, and most of our fests were hosted in MA, so I'm not surprised.
    There's still plenty of time to order some Waffle Cabin too.
     
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  27. JoshuaCormier23

    JoshuaCormier23 Disciple (322) Nov 5, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Less than a month until extreme!!!
     
  28. Todd

    Todd Founder (6,504) Aug 23, 1996 California
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    Hell yeah! Can't wait.
     
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  29. jamesloc

    jamesloc Initiate (59) Aug 8, 2018 New York
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    Sounds sick!
     
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  30. jamesloc

    jamesloc Initiate (59) Aug 8, 2018 New York
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    LOl same :slight_frown:
     
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  31. gpapp9631

    gpapp9631 Initiate (6) Jun 19, 2015 New Jersey

    Is anyone else having trouble getting Halftime to acknowledge the pick up option? I sent two separate emails with no answer and then called Mamaroneck, only for them to tell me to call Poughkeepsie. Once I called there, I was told they would have to call me back and then no call. Wondering if there is a specific contact I should be asking for.
     
  32. Todd

    Todd Founder (6,504) Aug 23, 1996 California
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    Updates from Half Time:
    1. Packages will begin to ship out next week.
    2. Tracking numbers will generate and be emailed to customers based on when regional carriers are in receipt of the packages themselves.
    3. Customers who have asked to pick up their packages at our stores will be notified once they are ready for pickup.
    So please keep an eye open for emails from @halftimebeverage.com!
     
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  33. Todd

    Todd Founder (6,504) Aug 23, 1996 California
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    Looks like we posted at the same time. See #3 in the above update.
     
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  34. Sehnsay

    Sehnsay Initiate (13) Dec 5, 2020 Pennsylvania

    Very excited for this! Cant wait to drink with all of you, though I wish we were back at the cycle o rama.
     
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  35. Todd

    Todd Founder (6,504) Aug 23, 1996 California
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    Hell yeah!

    Extreme Beer Fest was slated to be hosted in Brooklyn this past Sep. and Los Angeles this past Dec. Beyond bummed, but we'll do in-person fests again one day!
     
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  36. Todd

    Todd Founder (6,504) Aug 23, 1996 California
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    Heads up! Late last night I sent an onboarding email to those who purchased the package. Please check your inbox or spam folders for instructions. Thanks!
     
  37. 9percenthurdle

    9percenthurdle Initiate (21) Sep 6, 2018 Massachusetts

    Has anyone received their box yet?
     
  38. Todd

    Todd Founder (6,504) Aug 23, 1996 California
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    Yep. Most have by now. You should also check your email (and spam folder). I've been sending updates for weeks in the fest forum. I'll drop you a convo.
     
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  39. elNopalero

    elNopalero Poo-Bah (4,131) Oct 14, 2009 California
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    Maybe it's the dry(ish) January talking, or maybe it's staring at that photo of the F2020X3 on @Todd's Year in Beer article on the BA homepage right now, but my present-self is now wishing my past-self had the foresight to get on this in time. Enjoy it all, folks! Such an awesome line-up.
     
  40. onezendad

    onezendad Initiate (44) Apr 16, 2018 Canada (ON)

    I have been getting FB memories the last few days of 2019 and 2020 EBF and realizing even more how much I miss going to a festival.
     
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