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Fantome Brett - pure culture

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by OrgasmicChemist, Aug 1, 2012.

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  1. OrgasmicChemist

    OrgasmicChemist Initiate (0) Nov 2, 2010 Texas

    I recently re-read Zymurgy Sept/Oct 2011 and in their Saison article they mention they got a pure Fantome Brett from the Bruery... Does anyone have this culture or know where to get some of it?

    Thanks for any help
     
  2. quirkzoo

    quirkzoo Initiate (0) Jul 7, 2011 Colorado

    I am not a chemist so forgive me if my question is obvious, but why not just culture straight from a bottle?

    When you say "pure Fantome Brett" do you mean, pure as in 100% brett with no bacteria?
     
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  3. atomeyes

    atomeyes Disciple (383) Jul 13, 2011 Ontario (Canada)
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    i've read ppl trying to culture Fantome dregs and it not always turning out so hot.
     
  4. olympuszymurgus

    olympuszymurgus Zealot (582) Nov 24, 2009 California
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    Shoot Patrick Rue a message. My experience is he is totally rad about dealing with the craft dweeb crowd, he was one of us only a few years ago.
     
  5. OrgasmicChemist

    OrgasmicChemist Initiate (0) Nov 2, 2010 Texas

    As others noted below, Fantome dregs don't always turn out great. Also they almost always have laco and pedio in them... I wanted to brew with the pure Brett for other non-super tart beers.

    I wrote the Bruery, who shockingly wasn't willing to give me any yeast, but said East Coast Yeasts sells an 'identical' strain. Does anyone know this is true?
     
  6. nathanjohnson

    nathanjohnson Initiate (0) Aug 5, 2007 Vermont

    ECY03.
     
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  7. FUNKPhD

    FUNKPhD Initiate (0) Apr 13, 2010 Texas
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    The avatar makes it more convincing.
     
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  8. yinzer

    yinzer Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2006 Pennsylvania

    Just pointing out that probably is the yeast that was referenced, but it's not a 100% Brett which I believe the OP is asking for. That is unless ECY08 is all Brett.

    And of course ECY is very hard to get. I think that right now w/the heat it in store pick-up only.

    I brewed with that yeast and right now it's more pepper that anything ( it took it to over 90*F. I'm going to let it sit six months. It's probably only three months right now.
     
  9. stakem

    stakem Poo-Bah (4,964) Feb 20, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I can vouch this statement.
     
  10. danybrew

    danybrew Initiate (0) Feb 8, 2010 Belgium

     
  11. OrgasmicChemist

    OrgasmicChemist Initiate (0) Nov 2, 2010 Texas

    I think I missed something here.... :/
     
  12. RochesterAaron

    RochesterAaron Initiate (68) May 24, 2007 New York

    Danybrew == Fantome
     
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  13. OrgasmicChemist

    OrgasmicChemist Initiate (0) Nov 2, 2010 Texas

    Yes Danybrew... hasn't been easy so far! :slight_smile:
     
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  14. Patrick

    Patrick Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2007 Massachusetts

    I've only used the dregs from the regular saison twice, but both times the beer has turned out nicely.
     
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  15. yeastoftheeast

    yeastoftheeast Initiate (0) Jan 29, 2013

    I supplied the Bruery with the Fantome "brett" during my brew seesion with them on Batch 50. I first isolated this curious strain from a bottle of Black Ghost many yrs ago. Since then I have added the strain to other saison yeasts in ECY03 to complement. Hope to bring it back this Spring.
     
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  16. DrewBeechum

    DrewBeechum Meyvn (1,235) Mar 15, 2003 California
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    Hey, yeah, go with Al on this. I managed to wheedle some of the Bruery's supply by virtue of being my lovable self and having a talk at the NHC in San Diego.

    It makes for truly phenomenal beers, go figure, and finally captures that elusive strawberry note in Fantome that you just can't find any other way.
     
  17. atomeyes

    atomeyes Disciple (383) Jul 13, 2011 Ontario (Canada)
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    i'd love to watch and see the method behind isolating yeast strains.
    i assume it is basic microbiology (culturing agar, using a microscope, etc), but still...
     
  18. danybrew

    danybrew Initiate (0) Feb 8, 2010 Belgium

    difficult !!!
     
  19. ljkeats

    ljkeats Devotee (405) Jun 27, 2007 Massachusetts
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    The actual isolations aren't that hard, provided you have the basic equipment (IMHO).
    It's the testing of each individual colony that grows up that's a bear. Potentially thousands of small batches of beer.
    Unless you have access to more technical means (and $) to determine if one culture is different from another...
     
  20. yeastoftheeast

    yeastoftheeast Initiate (0) Jan 29, 2013

    Finding this particular strain in recent or other Fantome releases may prove elusive. Then again, the mysteries of Fantome go beyond yeast I think!
     
  21. atomeyes

    atomeyes Disciple (383) Jul 13, 2011 Ontario (Canada)
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    I think I may need to make a road trip to Soy this May....

    FIND THE ELUSIVE FANTOME BUG!
     
  22. oregone

    oregone Disciple (357) Jul 2, 2008 Oregon

    *please see three posts up



    :wink:
     
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