Fat Heads Portland closing, will reopen as a new brewery

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  1. Strangestbrewer

    Strangestbrewer Crusader (465) Oct 17, 2014 Oregon

  2. derftron

    derftron Pooh-Bah (1,651) Feb 8, 2012 Oregon
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    I was literally just talking about this with somebody the other day. The size and scope never made sense. I didn’t go very often, but they made some killer beer. Unfortunately, so does everybody else in this town.....and the pearl sucks
     
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  3. NWer

    NWer Pooh-Bah (2,145) Mar 10, 2009 Washington
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    Unfortunately? For who? And why does the Pearl suck?
     
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  4. vurt

    vurt Grand Pooh-Bah (4,102) Apr 11, 2004 Oregon
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    I figured @derftron meant it was unfortunate for Fat Head's. It certainly isn't unfortunate for beer consumers.
     
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  5. kbuzz

    kbuzz Initiate (0) Jan 22, 2011 North Carolina

    As a native Pittsburgher (who worked for years within walking distance of the original location) and a current Charlottean (who is eagerly anticipating the opening of the Charlotte location as announced some time ago), I am extremely disappointed in this news.

    First because I genuinely want to see this brewery succeed in everything it sets out to accomplish. Secondly, because I fear that this news might impact the opening of the Charlotte location either via delay or complete cancellation. I feel that the latter could go potentially both ways though. Will they now have more resources to pour into the Charlotte launch? Or are they going to be second guessing their attempt at broadening their presence outside of the Ohio/Pennsylvania markets? Another factor in all of this is that they are currently expanding to another location in Ohio. So I'm not sure if that expansion combined with winding down their production in Portland might be a death penalty for Charlotte...or just a delay...or neither. I've literally heard not one peep about the Charlotte location since it was announced. So that doesn't bode well for me either.

    Charlotte is insanely different than Portland however, with a LARGE amount of the population being midwesters or northerners, so I feel that Charlotte would be much more welcoming of a Fat Head's location than Portland was.
     
  6. RedMedicine

    RedMedicine Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2005 Oregon

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  7. shnsajax

    shnsajax Initiate (0) Jul 2, 2013 Idaho

    So how do people feel Modern Times will do in Portland next year? I know its not the same situation, but still an expansion into Portland and not a local.
     
  8. ballardbeer

    ballardbeer Zealot (657) Nov 10, 2013 Washington

    which of the 14 pages did we make such a claim?

    honestly, there's probably a lot of really funny material to pull out of that thread. i was once a FH "hater", but fell in love with IBUsive one day and never looked back.
     
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  9. weaverr

    weaverr Zealot (717) Jun 10, 2008 California

  10. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,497) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    The same thought crossed my mind. Frankly, I never really felt as if the pub/restaurant was a good fit for that area of PDX.

    That being said, Fathead beers turned out to be better than I had expected (based on my experience with the Pittsburgh location), though I never really warmed up to the restaurant/pub location. There are a lot of different options in that part of Portland, and I know that whenever I was trying to decide where to go for a beer after work (as I work in SW PDX), I always thought of Baily's, the Upper Lip, Deschutes and Lardo/Grassa/Beer O'clock before Fat Heads. I think it's been more than a year since I last went over there.
     
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  11. distantmantra

    distantmantra Pooh-Bah (2,954) May 23, 2011 Washington
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    Sounds more like a rebranding and not an outright failure. No one is losing their job over this.

    I feel like Modern Times gets Portland and won't fuck things up.
     
  12. ElijahSF

    ElijahSF Initiate (0) Aug 30, 2013 California

    Not a fan of their beers and the feel of that place is straight up Applebees. Gigantic portions.
     
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  13. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,497) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    I actually think Fathead beers were pretty well received in town (at least the IPA's were). I'd see their stuff on tap pretty often around town, and the beers seemed to sell pretty well, Some of the DIPA's weren't make in a style that I'm overly fond of, but you could tell they were well made. Outside of some of the TIPA's they made, I never heard a negative comment about their beer. You wouldn't see their IPA's or DIPA's languishing on any tap list for days and weeks at time.

    I've never been to Charlotte NC, so I can't really comment about the success of FH there. Your observations make sense, and so I hope this works out for you (and the city).

    I don't know if you've ever been to the FH in Portland. I'm sure you've read some of the criticisms about the menu/cuisine there, which is a bit atypical for what you'll find around town (and in most brewpubs). I have no idea if that played much of role in the restaurant's popularity. The times I went, the tap selection was always outstanding (large selection, with a lot of house beers and guest beers). So food be damned, there was plenty of reason to visit the pub.

    That being said, I've always felt the location of the restaurant was problematic. The area around Fatheads is particularly busy and traffic filled, and parking can be just miserable at times. It's also a bit off the beaten track in the Pearl, and just seems to be in an awkward location. I know that probably all sounds like relatively small potatoes to you, but in a place like PDX, where there are just so many places you can go to find a great beer selection, things like convenience and easy/free parking are often times a major consideration. Perhaps that played a role as well in the decision by FH to go elsewhere.

    In any event, I hope the Charlotte location build out comes to pass for you and the city. I will say that the situation you're describing sounds fairly similar to what transpired here. After the initial announcement that FH was coming to PDX, I don't think we heard another peep about the new brewery for more than a year. In fact, for quite some time there was a lot of speculation about where the new location was going to be located as I recall.
     
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  14. derftron

    derftron Pooh-Bah (1,651) Feb 8, 2012 Oregon
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    unfortunately for fat heads......certainly not us beer drinkers :slight_smile:

    Maybe "suck" is a little harsh. The Pearl just isnt an area that I think of when I want to relax and have a beer. its a parking, driving, pedestrian nightmare filled with tourists and trust fund kids. just not my cup of tea
     
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  15. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,658) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    Doesn't make sense to me. Glad to say I got to visit before they closed, but when I was there I was visiting in the morning on a weekday, and the place was doing great business--which is not what you would find at any brewery here in Ohio, in the morning, on a weekday. Place was easy to get to on the way to and from other breweries, at least on foot, so much so that I ran into it on the way to somewhere else. Having completely forgot Fat Head's opened in Portland, it was an awesome surprise and I'm glad we stopped because it was one of the standout beer experiences in town.

    This seems like it had more to do with a bullshit franchise scenario with Tom Cook than the actual success of the brewery. They should have never gotten involved in that sort of business arrangement in the first place--judging by the beers they were producing there, the quality of food* getting put out, and foot traffic during odd hours, if they'd found a way to be their own masters, they'd have probably become a permanent fixture like they are at their already overpopulated pubs here in Ohio.

    Regarding quality of food, nevermind the style or portions--that is the Fat Head's shtick, and part of the reason they're named that in the first place as the original joint in Pittsburgh was a sandwich bar, not a brewery. Maybe they should have scoped out the food scene in Portland a little more, but it didn't seem to deter anyone I saw there from ordering a fat head-sized sandwich.
     
  16. ChugChugPass

    ChugChugPass Initiate (0) Jun 16, 2017 Washington

    Sounds like it was the opposite of what most here think, it waa successful enough for a franchise owner to break free and do their own thing.
     
  17. breadwinner

    breadwinner Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2014 California

    Even though, personally, Fat Head's beer is markedly better than MT, MT will probably do great, because their vibe fits Portland a heck of a lot better. Portland was a bizarre location to choose for Fat Head's from a cultural compatibility standpoint.
     
  18. weaverr

    weaverr Zealot (717) Jun 10, 2008 California

    The Fat Heads location is situated in a perfect location for tourism. Within 4 square blocks (tiny Portland blocks), there's Rogue, Deschutes, 10 Barrel, Fat Heads, Backpedal, a couple McMenamins, and Henry's (not a brewery, but 100 taps). There's a significant parking garage in the middle of all of it, plus access to the streetcar. These aren't your top tier local breweries, but they almost all have national recognition. That's the reason you can walk into any one of them any day of the week and the person sitting next to you at the bar is almost definitely not from Portland. For any local or beer geek, that's probably not your preferred bar environment, but it's a great business model if you're a nationally distributed brewery.
     
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  19. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,497) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Based on my limited experience, I think this is accurate. That always struck me as a bit odd, as this is generally not the case at the Pittsburgh location. The times I visited there, the place was always packed, mostly with locals (from what I could tell).

    Personally (and this is just speculation on my part), I always wonder about the sustainability of any brewpub/restaurant that relies almost solely on tourist trade. Especially during the "off season" (otherwise known as winter time in PDX), you have to wonder how a place that relies exclusively on tourist dollars can stay in business.
     
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  20. weaverr

    weaverr Zealot (717) Jun 10, 2008 California

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