Feel the Burn: Stone Brewing Co. Releases Crime & Punishment

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  1. Todd

    Todd Founder Aug 23, 1996 Colorado
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    ESCONDIDO, CA (Nov. 4, 2013) – It takes a certain kind of person to drink a beer infused with the world’s boldest, fiery chilies – they are called masochists. Only those at the center of a Venn diagram combining pain-seeking individuals, the most audacious beer enthusiasts, and avid chile lovers have the palate stamina and discerning taste to handle such a beer. If you’re not anywhere in this Venn diagram, you should heed this as a warning and stay far, far away (especially those who have a penchant for whimpering and whining in online forums). However, for those who dare sample two insanely intense beers: You’re in for something special…and both unforgettably and unforgivingly spicy.

    This chapter of the #LiquidArrogance story started back in 2010, when Stone Brewing Co. CEO and Co-founder Greg Koch decided to ruin a beautiful bourbon barrel-full of Lukcy Basartd Ale by dumping a variety of chile peppers from his personal back-yard garden into the beer. That was a criminal act. Concurrently, Greg annihilated another delicious beer by adding more of his estate-grown chile peppers into an oak barrel-aged batch of Double Bastard Ale. As a result of the elevated alcohol level, there was an increased transference of pain-inducing capsicum into the beer. It was punishingly hot. With these discoveries, the beers were naturally named Crime and Punishment. Since these beers are near and dear to Greg’s heart — and to the tiny fraction of the populace that fit in the aforementioned Venn diagram – the beers were re-brewed this year and, thanks to the increased capacity of a new 500ml cork-finished bottling line, are being released nationally for the first time today.

    With the release of these two brutal behemoths, there have been rumors circulating that one or two international human rights advocacy groups are organizing protests against Stone Brewing for engaging in “cruel and unusual” punishment. However, these reports could not be immediately verified at press time.

    Any that dare to approach the beers should do so with heightened awareness and a preponderance of extreme caution.

    The peppers used to create this searing duo were sourced from Stone Farms as well as other suppliers. The list of scorching edibles includes red and green jalapeño, Fatali, Caribbean Red Hot, habanero, Ghost, Black Naga, Super, Moruga Scorpion, 7 Pot, Aji Amarillo, Scorpion, Giant White Habanero, 7 Pot Douglah and Douglah peppers.

    Both beers are ready to drink now, or may be properly cellared for months or years. When to open the bottles depends mostly on the procrastination level of the imbiber.

    This is the first time that Stone has released beers from their limited Stone Quingenti Millilitre Series for national distribution. Previously, they were only available at special events and Stone Company Stores in Southern California. These releases also mark the unveiling of Stone’s barrel-aging program, which the beer company has been ramping up significantly since first barrel aging its beers in 1996. It’s no surprise that Stone has been barrel aging beers, but to what extent has heretofore been largely kept quiet. But no longer, as someone at Stone is evidently a bit of a blabbermouth.

    With a new facility dedicated to the aging and bottling of these rarities, the beers may not actually be so rare in coming months. With more than 1,300 barrels, ranging from bourbon to wine, brandy to Scotch whisky and more, the company has plans to release future Stone Quingenti Millilitre Series bottles nationwide.

    “Expanding our barrel-aging program to include national distribution is something we've been working towards for many years,” said Stone Brewmaster Mitch Steele. “Now that we have the ability to produce more of the Stone Quingenti Millilitre Series due to our new aged and bottling facility, our fans should expect to see many new barrel-aged flavor combinations as well as some re-brews of favorites we've released in the past.”

    “Barrel aging opens up a whole new spectrum of possible flavor combinations when it comes to beers,” said Stone Research and Small Batch Manager Steve Gonzalez. “You get some flavor from what was in the barrel before, whether wine or spirits, and then you get the wood flavors as well. Experimenting with various flavor combinations from the beers and the barrels is really intriguing, and I’m excited to share what we've been working on for years with our fans.”

    Crime Quick Facts
    Name: Crime
    URL: http://www.arrogantbastard.com/500ml/#crime
    Stats: 9.6% ABV
    Availability: Limited 500ml bottles and draft, beginning November 4
    Hops Bill: CLASSIFIED
    Distribution: AK, AL, AZ, CA, CO, CT, DC, DE, FL, GA, IA, ID, IL, IN, KS, KY, LA, MA, MD, ME, MI, MN, MO, MT, NC, NE, NH, NJ, NM, NV, NY, OH, OR, PA, RI, SC, TN, TX, VA, VT, and WA

    Punishment Quick Facts
    Name: Punishment
    URL: www.arrogantbastard.com/500ml/#punishment
    Stats: 12% ABV
    Availability: Limited 500ml bottles and draft, beginning November 4
    Hops Bill: CLASSIFIED
    Distribution: AK, AL, AZ, CA, CO, CT, DC, DE, FL, GA, IA, ID, IL, IN, KS, KY, LA, MA, MD, ME, MI, MN, MO, MT, NC, NE, NH, NJ, NM, NV, NY, OH, OR, PA, RI, SC, TN, TX, VA, VT, and WA


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  2. Robtobfest

    Robtobfest Oct 21, 2009 Connecticut
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    My ass is on fire thinking about these beers! Jesus! Look at that list of peppers!
  3. cjoc83

    cjoc83 Jul 31, 2010 Pennsylvania
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    Interesting that they decided to release this as their first foray into barrel aged national distro... I still have yet to try a beer with chiles though, and Stone usually being pretty reasonably priced, I might just have to pick one of these up.
  4. OneBeertoRTA

    OneBeertoRTA Jan 2, 2010 California
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    They've been selling these at the brewery for a while. I like Crime but it hurts my heartburn worse than sours.
  5. xShoWTeKx

    xShoWTeKx Jan 21, 2013 South Carolina
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    And I was just looking to see if this was coming to SC too.
  6. cjoc83

    cjoc83 Jul 31, 2010 Pennsylvania
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    How hot actually is it? They make it sound in the video like it's going to be like biting into a ghost pepper... I mean I like spicyness, just hope it doesn't overpower everything else.
  7. DeviousSpirits

    DeviousSpirits Mar 23, 2009 Michigan
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    Wasn't it just reported that Southern Charred was to be the first nationally-distributed release from the Quingenti Millilitre Series? Is there some misinformation going on here?
  8. OneBeertoRTA

    OneBeertoRTA Jan 2, 2010 California
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    crime and Punishment aren't hot at all. You can definitely taste the peppers but it's more of the flavors not the kick. It's not like GFK or an order of lamb Vindaloo. Just a high flavor unique brew.
  9. Wylde

    Wylde Oct 9, 2008 Ohio

    Any ideas on the price for this? Pretty sure I want to try this but not if its too much, especially being a 500ml bottle
  10. Aaronkv

    Aaronkv Jul 9, 2013 California
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    They were $18 at the Stone company stores.
  11. skunkpuddle

    skunkpuddle Feb 14, 2011 California
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    Had this beer last night and it is quite hot and in my opinion it was absolutely awful. Never liked peppers in beer though so I'm not exactly their target audience.
  12. offthelevel_bytheplumb

    offthelevel_bytheplumb Aug 19, 2013 Illinois

    Oh man, I can't stand Stone, but this looks delicious!
  13. Aaronkv

    Aaronkv Jul 9, 2013 California
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    I had these the first time. Never again! Couldn't even finish a taster sized glass. But if you love Spicy this is for you.

    When I was buying Southern Charred someone was buying Crime excited to finally be trying Lucky Basartd. Good luck with that one, so many people wont even know what they're buying!
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  14. tdmccarthy

    tdmccarthy May 6, 2010 Illinois

    These sound awesome. I'll definitely be looking for them.
  15. AnalogErik

    AnalogErik Jul 23, 2013 Minnesota
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    This will be a share. Ive only had two pepper beers, and both were a little rough. Mango Magnifico and Surly Dumpster Fire. Dumpster kicked my ass.
  16. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Dec 9, 2011 Colorado
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    Habenero Sculpin was pretty intense. Has anybody had the Stone brews and the Habenero Sculpin? If so, how do they compare.
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  17. fredmugs

    fredmugs Aug 11, 2012 Indiana
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    Anyone know how this stacks up against Ghost Face Killah?
  18. Alex_Mraz

    Alex_Mraz Nov 4, 2013 California

    I can't wait to try these! Picking some up on monday.
    What are some other good spicy beers? I've had the Chili pepper spicy ale by Six Rivers, and it was alright.
    Looking for some other good ones for my boyfriend.
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  19. Spinaltapped

    Spinaltapped Oct 24, 2013 Illinois
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    We're supposed to be getting a keg of each at work, so I'll give it a shot. I'm not overtly optimistic (pepper beers are not my cup of tea), but Stone rarely disappoints.

    Let's hope it's more Prarie Bomb than Ghostface Killah.
  20. gillagorilla

    gillagorilla Feb 27, 2013 Maryland
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    Have you had their Tropical Heat Ruination (Habanero peppers and Mangoes)? It is quite balanced for what it is, at least compared to other spicy IPAs that I've had. I prefer it over Habanero Sculpin.
  21. MetalMountainMastiff

    MetalMountainMastiff Oct 1, 2012 California
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    Crime on tap was okay...I wish I hadn't paid for it. I would have much rather have had Lucky Bastard.
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  22. gillagorilla

    gillagorilla Feb 27, 2013 Maryland
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    Yeah, I kinda wish they had released Lukcy Basartd along with all of these. I love DB but I haven't had LB yet.
  23. beertunes

    beertunes Sep 24, 2007 Washington
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    "stay far, far away". OK, we get it. We're not worthy. We will obey and stay away.
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  24. SerialTicker

    SerialTicker Jun 18, 2012 Michigan

    Scorpion's the one you gotta be scared of. I have some Trinidad (Scorpion) pickles in my fridge and they KILL my bowels.
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  25. SawDog505

    SawDog505 Apr 9, 2010 New Hampshire
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    If this comes to New Hampshire I will be shocked! We only get the normal line, not any special realises Old Guardian, RIS, Double Bastard, Anniversary Ale, Ruinten, or the Vertical series. I was very happy Enjoy By made it to New Hampshire that was progress. I would love to try these fiery beasts. Will see?
  26. MetalMountainMastiff

    MetalMountainMastiff Oct 1, 2012 California
    Beer Trader

    This could not be a more true statement.
  27. FarmingtonRiver

    FarmingtonRiver Jul 7, 2004 Connecticut

    Double Bastard is currently on NH shelves... waiting on final state approval but both these beers will be in the Granite state ... IRS in 2014 as well as Ruin Ten and others....
  28. dianimal

    dianimal Apr 18, 2012 California

    I'm not a fan of super spicy beers and will be staying away from these.

    Are they going to bring back Lukcy Basartd? I couldn't get enough of that last year!!
  29. SawDog505

    SawDog505 Apr 9, 2010 New Hampshire
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    Wow awesome news, I won't have to travel to Mass for these anymore. So happy thanks for the information! Seriously such great news!
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  30. gillagorilla

    gillagorilla Feb 27, 2013 Maryland
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    I believe they will, but we will not be seeing it this year. (Friend of a Stone Rep)
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  31. SerialTicker

    SerialTicker Jun 18, 2012 Michigan

    "Lukcy Basartd" just pisses me off every time I see it.

    Dat deliberate misspelling.
  32. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Mar 18, 2010 California

    The price tag for these is not something I want to pay for potential drainpours.
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  33. Spinaltapped

    Spinaltapped Oct 24, 2013 Illinois
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    Just saw a video via email about how spicy it is. Arg. I think I'm going to try samples first. It seems REALLY spicy.
  34. pmarlowe

    pmarlowe Nov 27, 2010 District of Columbia
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    These were pretty gross when I had them at Oakquinox many years back.
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  35. MarcWP

    MarcWP Dec 2, 2012 Arizona
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    Just what I expected and was not at all interested in buying these. My only interest lies with the Southern Charred. What's the word on that?
  36. lordofstarside

    lordofstarside Feb 5, 2012 Nevada

    It's supposed to be released nationally as well...my state made the website distro list but the guys at all three of my local shops said their vendor told them our state wasn't getting any. So either my local vendor or Stone is mistaken (hopefully the vendor)
  37. BottleCaps80

    BottleCaps80 Jan 12, 2013 Iowa
    Beer Trader

    How ironic!
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  38. SerialTicker

    SerialTicker Jun 18, 2012 Michigan

    ...well, no shit. That was the point. :rolleyes:
  39. ajthegreat

    ajthegreat Nov 11, 2010 Vermont
    Beer Trader

    I WA
  40. SanFranJake

    SanFranJake Nov 2, 2012 California
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    $17.49 at my local BevMo and grabbed Punishment though still looking for the Charred.
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