Finnish brewery to recreate 200-year-old shipwrecked beer

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  1. tiong

    tiong Initiate (90) Jul 6, 2011 Finland

    Hopefully they are able to distribute it outside of Finland and Sweden (where they are currently distributing).
     
  2. papat444

    papat444 Initiate (0) Dec 28, 2006 Canada (QC)

    "Bottles of found beer were still drinkable after being preserved by cool temperatures, pressure from the sea, and total darkness."
    I want to see that review:grinning:
     
  3. BottleCaps80

    BottleCaps80 Initiate (0) Jan 12, 2013 Iowa

    ISO: 200 yr. old sea floor aged grog.
     
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  4. jesskidden

    jesskidden Poo-Bah (2,544) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    How exactly can you "replicate" a beer if "...the analysis was not able to determine if the beer was made solely of barley malt or whether it also contained other grains such as wheat."

    Not mentioned anywhere in the article (that I can find, anyway), but it can probably be assumed they've been able to culture the yeast? That has been done before with other such "found" bottles from shipwrecks, the most notable commercially-available brand being UK's Flag Porter.
     
  5. Crusader

    Crusader Disciple (372) Feb 4, 2011 Sweden

    From what I've read there were no redeemable yeast cells in the bottle so it wont have the same yeast strain.
     
  6. jesskidden

    jesskidden Poo-Bah (2,544) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    :grimacing: So, they don't have the yeast, nor even know the basic ingredients? Kinda hard to "recreate" a 200 year old beer under those circumstances...:wink:
     
  7. Crusader

    Crusader Disciple (372) Feb 4, 2011 Sweden

    This is what they say:


    http://www.wownews.se/?a=9305
     
  8. Crusader

    Crusader Disciple (372) Feb 4, 2011 Sweden

    They've found remains of malt and hops, obviously, but whether they can pinpoint the type/types of malt and hops used I don't know. Either they can't, or they're not sharing that information with the media for whatever reason.
     
  9. JLaw55

    JLaw55 Poo-Bah (1,526) Jul 10, 2014 Missouri
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  10. stealth

    stealth Zealot (571) Dec 16, 2011 Minnesota

    in before iso's
     
  11. stealth

    stealth Zealot (571) Dec 16, 2011 Minnesota

    really though, super fascinating stuff!
     
  12. hophugger

    hophugger Poo-Bah (2,475) Mar 5, 2014 Virginia
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    Interesting, I'd try one...what the hell !!
     
  13. BigRedDog

    BigRedDog Initiate (0) Jul 23, 2014 Indiana

    I'd try it too. I'm intrigued.

    Eventually I'm sure some brewery will take a crack at recreating beers like this. Cough..Dogfish Head...cough
     
  14. Sweatshirt

    Sweatshirt Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2014 New Hampshire
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    After a certain age a beer is pure novelty. I'd still try it.
     
  15. Breaking_Beard

    Breaking_Beard Initiate (0) Oct 17, 2014 Michigan

    I tried one and didn't like it. Then when I found out how rare it was, the taste changed and it was way better.
     
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  16. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania

    Probably too new. The molecular archaeologist whose work motivates DFH and collaborates with them in doing the analytic work on which they base their "reconstructions" is generally interested in stuff from way more than only 200 years ago.
     
  17. BigRedDog

    BigRedDog Initiate (0) Jul 23, 2014 Indiana

    They still seem to have a propensity for recreating forgotten styles, that's more what I was mentioning. I understand that they focus on "ancient ales", but who's to say they won't branch out. I love the ancient ales they have made and honestly would like to see them recreate something like a this beer from 200 years ago.
     
  18. MikeP64

    MikeP64 Initiate (166) Jan 24, 2015 South Carolina

    ...talk about oldest beer in your fridge.WOW. It would also be cool to replicate the bottle!
     
  19. Lodisgrisen

    Lodisgrisen Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2014 Finland

    I actually live in Åland and i can say this beer tastes like sour white wine. Stay away from it.
     
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  20. Monkeyknife

    Monkeyknife Poo-Bah (3,632) Jan 8, 2007 Missouri
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    I love this quote:

    "In the paper, the authors describe the beer as smelling "of autolyzed yeast, dimethyl sulfide, Bakelite, burnt rubber, over-ripe cheese, and goat, with phenolic and sulfury notes." Yum."

    I can say that goat is officially a flavor note I've never used in a review.
     
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  21. oldsyd

    oldsyd Initiate (166) Oct 27, 2006 Iowa
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    What other ancient beers have been brought back to life using ancient yeast? Is it reasonable to think that an old bottle really has viable yeast suitable for brewing in it? I'm wondering if it's a marketing gimmick. I haven't heard much about Fossil Fuels Brewing lately.
     
  22. DCH

    DCH Disciple (315) Jun 12, 2013 New York

    Not as good as the 201 yr old sea floor grog.
     
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  23. Breaking_Beard

    Breaking_Beard Initiate (0) Oct 17, 2014 Michigan

    The 1809 release was so much better.
     
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  24. MNAle

    MNAle Poo-Bah (2,412) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota
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    But, then, you don't live in Finland...
     
  25. StartedwithSAM

    StartedwithSAM Initiate (0) Feb 17, 2015 Virginia

    It's always interesting to me to see these attempts at recreating what ancient peoples used to enjoy, the beer was consumed more because it was cleaner than the water, lol. All attempts obviously won't always come out amazing or even palatable but it's just interesting to read about it.
     
  26. jco3

    jco3 Initiate (0) May 4, 2012 New Hampshire
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    What about Dogfish Heads Midas Touch, wasn't that based on the same idea? Except much older?
     
  27. jco3

    jco3 Initiate (0) May 4, 2012 New Hampshire
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    Sorry, Dog, wrote before I read
     
  28. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania

    That one was re-created by using information gathered from analysis of dried residue on the inside of a drinking vessel, etc.

    The Chateau Jiahu is a closer match in the sense that the container was still sealed and had liquid inside of it.

    But both were much much older. :slight_smile:
     
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