Firestone Walker NOT releasing Sucaba in 2017, but wait, there is a new beer!

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  1. TboneRN

    TboneRN Defender (636) Mar 30, 2014 Minnesota

    From Firestone Walker's Facebook page:
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  2. scream

    scream Meyvn (1,350) Dec 6, 2014 Wisconsin

    not now and never will be on FB !
  3. Yellowlt4

    Yellowlt4 Initiate (0) Sep 21, 2016 Texas

    I'm excited to see what they are going to release in its place.
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  4. gatornation

    gatornation Poo-Bah (9,136) Apr 18, 2007 Minnesota
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    Thats sad love that FW Brew, Im usually in CA in February and buy several to bring home. I wonder what the new vintage brew will be on Feb 4th?
  5. JDM0221

    JDM0221 Initiate (109) Sep 4, 2013 Maryland

    I believe it will be Bravo, their barrel aged imperial brown ale, that is utilized in many of their blends.
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  6. Patches826

    Patches826 Meyvn (1,074) Aug 28, 2013 Massachusetts

    Yeah, rumor is it's Bravo this time.

    I love Sucaba, but I'm actually kinda glad they're shaking up the Vintage line this year. Maybe we'll see PNC or Parabajava in Parabola's spot? Or Maltose Falcons subbing in for Helldorado? One can dream...
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  7. bbtkd

    bbtkd Poo-Bah (13,480) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    If you simply don't want to register or logon, you don't have to - if unregistered or not logged in then Facebook is just another website with information. If that's a personal protest then whatever - you're missing information because some companies are only doing Facebook.
  8. deanzaZZR

    deanzaZZR Initiate (186) Jan 8, 2015 California

    Is that why is says "You must log in to continue"?
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  9. TrojanRB

    TrojanRB Poo-Bah (1,627) Jul 27, 2013 Texas
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    I guess that's the end of my vertical.....

    No reason to keep saving, better start drinking!
  10. jakecattleco

    jakecattleco Poo-Bah (2,673) Sep 3, 2008 California
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    If it's PNC my bank account is definitely gonna be hurting. If Parabajava my cellar may truly have to expand in storage space after the wallet hit. Oh the first world problems...
  11. JJFoodie

    JJFoodie Initiate (145) May 11, 2009 Texas

  12. readyski

    readyski Aspirant (291) Jun 4, 2005 California

    Say it ain't so! That is my favorite FW beer - how will they ever replace that?:rolling_eyes:
  13. beermeplz

    beermeplz Aspirant (278) Feb 13, 2015 California

  14. bbtkd

    bbtkd Poo-Bah (13,480) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    My bad - while I don't actively use FB I do have an account and was signed on. I agree that you shouldn't have to sign on to see content.
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  15. JDM0221

    JDM0221 Initiate (109) Sep 4, 2013 Maryland

    I also heard that all FW Vintage bottles will be changing to 12 oz bottles this year.
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  16. Harrison8

    Harrison8 Poo-Bah (4,674) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
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    Interesting. I got my one and only bottle of Sucuba this year, so glad I was able to do so. I'm interested to try what's in its place (Imperial Brown Ale?). Mother's brewery makes an imperial brown ale that's aged in bourbon barrels (or was). Maybe I can do a side-by-side, blind tasting at some point.
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  17. Eddiehop

    Eddiehop Defender (638) Jun 28, 2014 Texas

    Not to thread jack, but also saw where FW Union Jack is coming in 16oz cans. Looks like Firestone is trying to "freshen up" the look of the lineup with new size formats.
  18. ManapuaMan

    ManapuaMan Meyvn (1,218) Apr 3, 2015 Massachusetts

    Any of their boxed beauties in bottled four packs would be a boon! Lends itself to the "try a couple now and age the rest" crowd very nicely (which I'm part of). Sad to see Sucaba shelved but FW can be counted on to fill the gap with something amazing, though I'm hesitant to say "equally amazing." That's a damn fine beer headed to the bench.
  19. SinBoldly

    SinBoldly Initiate (35) Apr 21, 2014 Illinois

    My fear though is that shops will break them up with limit one 12oz per customer.
  20. raynmoon

    raynmoon Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2011 Colorado

    I actually am shocked they are moving the vintage series to 12oz 4 packs if th rumor is true. The boxes are iconic.
  21. Dil_thebeerdrinking_do

    Dil_thebeerdrinking_do Initiate (0) Jan 21, 2014 Georgia

  22. Wolfhead

    Wolfhead Initiate (0) Sep 1, 2009 Illinois

    You must log on so MZ gets all your info for advertising, fake news etc. etc.

    I do like Sucaba and can't age anything but myself
  23. Donco

    Donco Devotee (473) Aug 12, 2013 Pennsylvania

    Sorry to hear they're not doing a 2017 version (oh, well, still have a 2015 & 2016)...
    I hope they do a new release of Double DBA. Great stuff!
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  24. ernh

    ernh Aspirant (243) Jun 10, 2012 California

    Where does it specify 4-packs? I think they've been doing their sour beers as one-off 12oz bottles for awhile, so if that's been working it makes sense to consolidate production lines. I think 12oz bottles designed for individual sale are an emerging trend in higher end beers. Crux as one example. As long as it doesn't jack up the per ounce price I love the flexibility of smaller bottles!

    Those boxed 22's have always been beautiful, but I've also always looked at them and thought, "I'd pay a buck less per package for simpler packaging and less waste." (not sure what actual production cost is, but between the cardboard, printing, manufacture, and either a machine or human labor to package it has to add up)
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    WCKDVBZ Meyvn (1,341) May 9, 2014 South Carolina

    12 oz singles = BAD
    12 oz/4-pack = GREAT
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  26. Hoppedelic

    Hoppedelic Initiate (188) Dec 6, 2010 California

    Those are 375ml bottles, looks like these will be 12oz bottles. I like the 375's, especially because they are corked and caged. Agreed on the price per ounce thing though, 375's are usually pricier per ounce.
  27. WillemHC

    WillemHC Initiate (146) Jun 21, 2013 Utah

    Damn, I love Sucaba. Would much rather have them replace Helldorado for a year.
  28. ernh

    ernh Aspirant (243) Jun 10, 2012 California

  29. shnsajax

    shnsajax Initiate (0) Jul 2, 2013 Idaho

    That also states there will only be 100 cases of the 22oz bottles. Can that be right, if so that will never leave the brewery and everyone else will see 12oz bottles.
  30. FBarber

    FBarber Poo-Bah (5,469) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    NOOOOO! :slight_frown:

    Thats my favorite of the lineup. Why not get rid of something else like Helldorado?
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  31. deleted_user_950283

    deleted_user_950283 Crusader (796) Feb 25, 2015

    I agree should have dumped Merkin or Helldorado instead
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  32. ernh

    ernh Aspirant (243) Jun 10, 2012 California

    I bet that's wrong. The labels themselves say either 1,000 or 4,000 cases depending on how you read their font.
  33. TruePerception

    TruePerception Initiate (0) Aug 30, 2013 California

    I'm interested in trying Bravo. I've only had their bottles that hit retail near me, but I've bought 18, 19, and 20, and all three of those had some Bravo, if I remember correctly.
  34. CJNAPS

    CJNAPS Initiate (0) Nov 3, 2013 California

    Would have liked to see Merkin go away, but excited to try the new one coming.
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  35. croush

    croush Champion (805) Mar 20, 2015 Illinois

    I agree here. A lot of folks seem to be willing to do away with Helldorado, but I've been pretty impressed with it every time I've had it. I think I've actually been less impressed with Sucaba (and Parabola...gasp!) when I've had it. Perhaps it has something to do with higher expectations for things like Sucaba/Parabola and lower expectations for Helldorado.

    My guess is Bravo gets split into single 12 oz. bottles around here instead of being sold in the 4-packs. If that's the case, I'd probably buy one bottle to try, but I doubt I'd be interested in a whole 4-pack or 22 oz. bottle.
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  36. Jimbobebop

    Jimbobebop Initiate (0) Jun 12, 2013 Illinois

    Replacing Sucaba with Bravo is like booting Michael Jackson for Janet while giving Tito a pass. Poor form FSW, Helldorado or Merkin should have taken that bullet.
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  37. beermeplz

    beermeplz Aspirant (278) Feb 13, 2015 California

    i knocked helldorado when it was first released and i tried a fresh bottle, but was blown away by how good it was with a year on it. ended up stocking up on this last release.

    agree with others on merkin though - does nothing for me and skipped the last release.
  38. brewaddict

    brewaddict Aspirant (292) Nov 25, 2015 California

    I'm a big fan of Sucaba. Sad to see it "temporarily" out of rotation. And yes, it ruins my vertical as well. I've only had Helldorado fresh, but wasn't impressed. I guess only time will tell with the rest of my bottles. As for Merkin, it's a great beer, but it generally is a Parabola lite. Flavors are more subtle and it has less ABV. Which I guess makes it more drinkable. But I don't think it was supposed to be a session beer. I think either of these two would have been a better candidate.
  39. SinBoldly

    SinBoldly Initiate (35) Apr 21, 2014 Illinois

    2016 >>> 2015, especially once it warms up. Wasn't overly impressed with 2015 but 2016 is really good, especially just barely below room temperature. Wasn't sure I was going to buy any in 2016, but after opening my first one I went out and bought a few more.
  40. cosmicdebris

    cosmicdebris Initiate (0) Feb 8, 2008 Connecticut

    Figures Firestone Walker finally makes it to my state and this happens. I have been waiting all year for this:angry:
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