Firestone walker vs Stone brewery

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  1. mhksuccess

    mhksuccess Zealot (584) Jul 7, 2012 California
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    I myself would have to side with Firestone walker and that is based on the following
    well for year round productions I have to side with the Union Jack over Stone Ipa
    then the Double Jack over Stone Ruination although Ruination is one of Stone best beers
    Then the Velvet Merlin is better than Stone Porter the Stone beer is just pretty average
    although I did like the Stone vanilla porter and Stone pepper porter not sure of the name lol
    Then comes the anniversary specialty brew that Firestone puts out yearly anniversary, parabola, sucaba, that double dba it is just worlds ahead of Stone even the Stone double bastard bourbon barrel aged was good but still below the quality last I will have to mention that collaboration Stone Mint chocolate stout was amazing
    but i have to side overall with Firestone Walker
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  2. Hanzo

    Hanzo Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    For me this isn't even close. Firestone Walker.
  3. tjensen3618

    tjensen3618 Initiate (0) Mar 23, 2008 California

    Stone IPA > Union Jack
    Ruination > Double Jack
    Wookey Jack > SSR
    Pale 31 > Stone Pale
    Velvet Merlin & FW Porter > Stone Porter

    Both their seasonal BW's and RIS's are fantastic, Stones aren't Barrel Aged, while FW's are, so it's hard to do a direct comparison.
    Price-wise they're about even.

    I guess you can say I love them both and they're both pretty damn even in my book.
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  4. tabascosigned

    tabascosigned Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2012 Virginia

    I like Stone...a lot.

  5. jacewg

    jacewg Defender (616) Jan 7, 2012 District of Columbia

    Firestone. Every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
  6. Kaz646

    Kaz646 Initiate (0) Dec 14, 2010 California

    I'm a big fan of Stone, but anything barrel aged by Firestone makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside
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  7. eatabagofbooger

    eatabagofbooger Initiate (60) Mar 27, 2009 Oregon
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    Well put. To be more precise, I like Stone better for IPAs (IPA beats the hell out of Union Jack and Ruination edges out Double Jack); but as much as I love IRS, FW wins out for me with Velvet Merkin, Velvet Merlin, Abacus, DDBA, Parabola, and the Anniversary beers.

    Gotta give Stone lotsa credit for Suitable for Cave Aging. It's incredibly unlikely, but I'd be freaking stoked if they ever bottled that one!
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  8. fujindemon74

    fujindemon74 Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Cracked open a DDBA this past weekend.
    Was as blown away as I was when I opened my first DDBA earlier this year.
  9. SammyJaxxxx

    SammyJaxxxx Poo-Bah (2,170) Feb 23, 2012 New Jersey
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    Let me fix this for you:
    I don't think it is even close. Firestone Walker by a landslide.
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  10. Pelican5

    Pelican5 Initiate (0) Feb 4, 2012 California
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    FW /
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  11. Northlax3

    Northlax3 Initiate (85) Aug 19, 2012 New Jersey
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    I'm not totally sure how this can be a comparison. From a consumer perspective, of course FW has better representations of the styles, according to the majority. Though, Stone's prices are AMAZING for what they offer.

    FW Barleywine ~$12.99/22oz. vs Stone Barleywine ~$7.99/22oz

    FW RIS $14.99/22oz vs Stone IRS ~$7.99/22oz

    FW IPA ~$6.99/22oz vs Stone IPA ~4.49/22oz

    While i prefer most Firestone Walker styles over the Stone equivalent, i have purchased much more Stone in my trips to the store simply because they offer very good prices for their very good beer. FW offerings are very good, slightly above Stone IMO, but is it worth paying almost double the price for that difference? only sometimes.
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  12. musicman7070

    musicman7070 Disciple (357) Aug 26, 2012 New Jersey
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    Just picked up 2 Union Jack's to be my first IPA I will ever drink. Good choice?
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  13. mychalg9

    mychalg9 Champion (849) Apr 8, 2010 Illinois
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    FW lays the whomp down, IMO. Quite honestly I could live the rest of my life without another Stone beer and be perfectly content.
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  14. fujindemon74

    fujindemon74 Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2012 Pennsylvania

    If you're comparing Sucaba to Old Guardian and Parabola to IRS, the answer is emphatically YES.
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  15. Northlax3

    Northlax3 Initiate (85) Aug 19, 2012 New Jersey
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    yupp! it just won an award at the European beer rating event thingy... im forgetting the name.... but ya its amazing.

    Not to a college student :stuck_out_tongue: Also, availability is an issue. I can get Stone RIS and Old guardian pretty much anytime at most stores. FW Parabola and abacus/sucaba are much harder to find, as well as limited brew schedules.
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  16. tabascosigned

    tabascosigned Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2012 Virginia

    holy hell, yes.
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  17. Preluderl

    Preluderl Devotee (461) Sep 27, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    Acquired my first ever Firestone Walker (Parabola) brew just last eve via a trade with SMason. Excited to try it.
  18. ShogoKawada

    ShogoKawada Meyvn (1,247) May 31, 2009 Pennsylvania

    firestone walker is delicious but rarely worth the $$$
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  19. sil1

    sil1 Aspirant (228) May 19, 2012 California
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    Firestone no contest they're not in the same league
  20. sergeantstogie

    sergeantstogie Aspirant (202) Nov 16, 2010 Washington

    I would sorely miss the absence of either of them if for some reason one went away.
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  21. Pecan

    Pecan Devotee (421) Dec 20, 2012 Arizona
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    I'm split on beer versus beer, but would have to say I'm a bigger fan of Stone overall. Giving them the edge as a brewery because of variety, mainly due to their collab series.
  22. SanFranJake

    SanFranJake Initiate (0) Nov 2, 2012 California
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    Me, FW and Stone are in a polyamouous relationship. We all love one another and if/when they get together, it's magic!
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  23. Mavajo

    Mavajo Zealot (572) Feb 10, 2007 Georgia

    Firestone, purely because of their barrel-aging program. Stone's barrel program is somewhere between "crappy" and "non-existent."

    If Stone was gone tomorrow, I wouldn't care.
  24. Levitation

    Levitation Initiate (0) Aug 7, 2009 California

    neither one distributes their barrel-aged stuff to california anyway.

    i used to be a big fan of velvet merlin. stone has nothing that comes close. it's the one thing that tempts me to break my firestone boycott...
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  25. RichardMNixon

    RichardMNixon Zealot (515) Jun 24, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    By quite a bit.

    Lukcy Basartd > most beers I've ever had. FW's barrel-aged stuffs are hard to get on the East Side.
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  26. tjensen3618

    tjensen3618 Initiate (0) Mar 23, 2008 California

    Is that FW's fault or your distributors?

    I know my Deschutes distributor is awful and we don't get much, if any, Reserve Series stuff.
    I can't fault Deschutes if my distributor isn't ordering any of it.
  27. flayedandskinned

    flayedandskinned Initiate (0) Jan 1, 2011 California
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    If they are less than two months old.
  28. kojevergas

    kojevergas Poo-Bah (7,592) Aug 15, 2010 Texas
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    I like Velvet Merkin and Unfiltered DBA. Levitation is good on Stone's side.

    I'm not a fan of either brewery, but if pressed I'd probably begrudgingly side with Firestone Walker. Their restaurant makes a good steak.
  29. flayedandskinned

    flayedandskinned Initiate (0) Jan 1, 2011 California
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    Yup, but I dont like their DBA at all though.
  30. musicman7070

    musicman7070 Disciple (357) Aug 26, 2012 New Jersey
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    They are! :slight_smile: Bottling date is 11/16/12!
  31. fujindemon74

    fujindemon74 Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2012 Pennsylvania

    As you should be...

    I had high expectations when I cracked my first Parabola and they were quickly met.
    Upon letting the brew warm a bit, my expectations were easily exceeded.
  32. Levitation

    Levitation Initiate (0) Aug 7, 2009 California

    this is hearsay, but here's the word from a guy who talked to a fw rep: they, at the brewery level, are prioritizing out-of-state markets.


    last release, san diego stores were allotted (not ordered) 1 case. i even asked a buyer how true that was; he ordered 10 cases and received 1. the distributors want to move their inventory, so logically, the short supply must be up the chain, from the brewery.

    i think they make great beer, and i'd buy a lot of it if they made more of their special releases available in quantity here. but they don't, so i don't.
  33. SalukiAlum

    SalukiAlum Disciple (335) Dec 19, 2010 Colorado
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    Both in my top 10-15 breweries in the US. I actually give a slight nod to Stone if I had to pick. Enjoy By might have been my favorite beer of the year!! Stone RIS might be my favorite non barrel aged stout too! Firestone Walker nails it with their barrel aged beers and I love Double Jack! Can go wrong with either :slight_smile:
  34. fujindemon74

    fujindemon74 Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2012 Pennsylvania

    And what barrel aged stouts & barleywines are a significantly better value?
    I'm not trying to be flip, I'm just really curious.
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  35. grumpy

    grumpy Disciple (368) May 24, 2005 Missouri

    My favorite from either brewery is "Punctuation."

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  36. StarRaptor

    StarRaptor Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2010 California

    Firestone by a mile
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  37. fredmugs

    fredmugs Poo-Bah (1,547) Aug 11, 2012 Indiana
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    Can't get FW in BF Indiana so Stone wins by default. Union Jack is really good. Double Jack is awesome. DBA is meh. So far that's all I've had.
  38. CA_Infidel2o9

    CA_Infidel2o9 Initiate (0) Dec 1, 2012

    This thread is very interesting, i've realized i can't really post an opinion because, besides FW 16th & Stones 12.12.12, i haven't had either breweries beers in quiet a while. I think it's about time to crack open some old favorites and have a side by side tasting.
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  39. DonDirkA

    DonDirkA Initiate (0) Dec 14, 2011 Arizona

    I'd have to say Firestone. I came up on craft beer from Stone and I still love them (especially their collabs and anniversary beers), but I anticipate Sucaba, Parabola, Anniversary and now DDBA every year. Stone makes some great beers but they are basically IPA people and while I still love a great IPA, I have grown past them a bit.
  40. chcfan

    chcfan Devotee (466) Oct 29, 2008 California

    I'm in the minority, but I don't care for FW's hoppy beers much, where as I do quite like most of Stone's. I cream my jeans over FW Anniv beers, Sucaba...and have never had a -bal Stone beer, so FW gets the nod for me.
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