Founders Porter recipe change?

There is no way that I would put it in the same sentence as Founder's, Eddy Fitz, or Black Butte, but you still have to respect it's place. It was the last porter in the world for a few years after Guinness stopped brewing porter and before Anchor started.

You also haven't explained your confusion over what is an adjunct and what is a flavoring.

 

You said you enjoyed adjuncts in BA stouts. I didn't take that to mean that you liked when they added various non-malted grains, cereals, or sugars to the beer to boost alcohol content. I figured you meant fruits, nuts, spices, and other non-fermentable things added purely for flavor.

But maybe you are a fan of D90 candi or Invert #4?

 

I'm of the school of thinking that if it ferments out, whether it leaves a pronounced flavor or not, it's an adjunct. If it sits there, it's a flavoring.

It's why the wine industry stopped thinking craft beer was a threat years ago. The industry started elevating beers that were the equivalent of the lowest common denominator for them. If you paid $20 for a 375ml bottle of chocolate port, you'd be a mark-ass mark. But a lot of folks around here will gladly pay that for the same amount of similar strength beer with chocolate, and celebrate it.

Before anyone says "barrel-aged", remember, the port was, by definition, aged in a port barrel. Much rarer than a bourbon barrel on these shores.

 

Adjuncts (@MrOH : I'm thinking of low or no flavor fermentables like corn, rice, or sugar) aren't a problem if used judiciously. In the 70s, McSorleys, Ballantine XXX Ale, Andeker, and most other top domestic products that I drank then used adjuncts, and I thought they were "malty". I remember that, when Pabst changed Andeker to an all-malt formula in about 80, I thought they had reduced the malt body! These days, I think there is a tendency for many craft brewers to increase attenuation (and alcohol content). Modern palates seem to be used to the lighter mouth-feel. This could contribute to reduced perceived body in a lot of beers

 

I picked up a sixer this weekend to see if I noticed any changes, and while it has been a few years since I had it last, I have to say I think it is as good as ever!

 

Just discovered a bottle of Founders Porter hiding in the back of one of the beer fridges.

Bottled 10-13-22 and always refrigerated since I bought it.

This was back before they changed from the elaborate artwork labels to the generic, crappy ones today. I'd post a pic but still can't get the sizing correct so, oh well.

It tasted fine to me, especially for a three year old porter but I don't think that's any help in identifying a recipe change today.

I'll try & pick up a fresh porter quick to do a comparison but all Founders brews (especially the old standbys) have tasted a skosch less flavorful to me for about....well.....three years now.

Should have waited to do a comparison but popped the top so...down the hatch.

 

You don't have to worry about sizing a pic when posting it in the forums. Just save the pic at a third-party hosting site such as Imgur.com and bring the Direct Link from that site. Use the Image posting icon at the top of the composing window to place the pic wherever your cursor is situated.

Specific sizing is only needed when adding a pic of the beer's bottle/can on a brewery's Place page or of the brewery's building itself in Places.

 

Love me some Founders Porter, but I just emailed them about brewing that legendary Imperial Stout again!!!

 

Yes, I kind of miss Yuengling beers, especially the Lager and Porter. I lived for many years in PA and got used to drinking them occasionally, when I didn't want a real flavorful beer but rather a lighter one with a little extra flavor at a modest price. I live in CO now and it looks like even Yuengling Lager will never get here--Yuengling's "nationwide" strategy was, apparently, a flop. I gather Shiner Bock (available in CO) is similar to Lager, but I haven't gotten round to trying it yet. In any case it's more expensive than a good ol' 12 pack of Lager cans was in Philly.

 

They just announced Iowa and Wisconsin.
Already in CO neighbor Kansas (via MC joint venture - map).

 

Yes, an economically priced, pleasant and easy drinking beer(s).

My sister now lives in Texas and she occasionally drinks Yuengling Lager. Hopefully they will reach Colorado in the near future.

Cheers!

 

I'm glad someone else misses that beer!

 

Just picked up a "fresh" bottle of Founders Porter here in town.

I always used to give it a 4.25 on 'Dumcrapped' but could only muster a 3.75 for this one.

Didn't recognize anything that off-putting but it's not as tasty as it used to be.

Here's my review:

Bottled 8/21/25. Like all other Founders core brews since the generic-label-rebranding years ago, it's still good but not as flavorful & lacks a little body/mouthfeel compared to the brews of yore.

 

Don't expect the op to come back on what was started

 

Not sure that I have seen in my area?

 

Give their beer finder a check here -> https://finder.vtinfo.com/finder/web/v2/iframe?custID=FBC

 

I found the beer to be the same as I remembered, though it has been a few years since I had it last to when I picked it up this past weekend.

I also hate the generic label rebranding. It's hard to beat the classic labels