Fresh Hop 2019

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  1. derftron

    derftron Devotee (451) Feb 8, 2012 Oregon

    with all that said. Occidental is already out the gate with a FH Pilsner in cans! i know @John_M is excited
     
  2. vurt

    vurt Poo-Bah (1,750) Apr 11, 2004 Oregon
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    Well I sure am!
     
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  3. vurt

    vurt Poo-Bah (1,750) Apr 11, 2004 Oregon
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    @John_M If you're looking for a fresh hop lager that is as different from its base as FH Workhorse is from regular Workhorse, I can't help you. I haven't found it yet.

    I will also point out that MOST fresh hop beers fail to clear that particular bar.

    But if you want a fresh hop lager that has an easy-to-spot fresh hop presence that is delicious and separate from the regular hop character in a lager, I nominate Baerlic Hellsner. The last time I had it, Hellsner tasted "green" in that lovely way that only fresh hop beers do.
     
  4. John_M

    John_M Poo-Bah (7,358) Oct 25, 2003 Oregon
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    I appreciate the recommendation and will look for it. I seem to recall either you or someone else recommending it last year, but unfortunately, I never was able to try it.

    "I will also point out that MOST fresh hop beers fail to clear that particular bar."

    Unfortunately, this is only too true, but when you do come across one, it's almost like having an epiphany. I still remember vividly the better FH beers I've had over the years, and am already looking forward to this year's FH events in Hood River and Oaks Park.
     
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  5. John_M

    John_M Poo-Bah (7,358) Oct 25, 2003 Oregon
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    I probably deserve to be made fun of over this, but the truth is I appreciate your recommendation and intend to search it out. Regular Occidental pils is pretty damn good, so I can't imagine the FH version can be all that much of a chore to drink (even if I'm unable to detect the FH character in it).
     
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  6. John_M

    John_M Poo-Bah (7,358) Oct 25, 2003 Oregon
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    I actually wanted you to provide some examples so I could try to find them myself and see if I agree with your assessment. As I indicated in the initial post you responded to, I haven't had much success finding FH lagers where I could detect the FH character, but that I planned to keep an open mind about them, and was hoping to come across some at some point (you'll recall that I didn't say I had never come across one). Another reason I was hoping you could provide some examples, is that I thought it was possible you might have had one that I had also had, which would then suggest that we just have very different expectations and tastes when it comes to FH lagers. I typically go to 2 or 3 FH fests each year, and have tried a fair amount of FH lagers over the years, so that was certainly a possibility (unfortunately, I don't think I've tried any of the 3 beers you listed). If those beers are made again this year, I'll keep an eye out for them and definitely snag a can/bottle.

    To respond to your initial "desperate" concern, let's just say I was a bit puzzled when you didn't provide any specific examples, in light of the following questions in my post:

    "What do you feel those "results" consist of?"

    "If you've had the chance to sample a fh hop version of a lager and then the same lager without fresh hops, are you able to tell the difference?"


    You still didn't respond to those questions of course, but that's OK, I appreciate you providing the information you did, and I don't want to upset you further. Have a good afternoon/evening.
     
  7. Reidrover

    Reidrover Poo-Bah (4,837) Jan 14, 2003 Oregon
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    EFF the fresh hops..when do those delicious pumpkin ales arrive! Pumpkin is so much more PNW than yukky Fresh Hop!
     
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  8. NWer

    NWer Champion (801) Mar 10, 2009 Washington

    Them's fighting words...
     
  9. Reidrover

    Reidrover Poo-Bah (4,837) Jan 14, 2003 Oregon
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    Just in case i am black balled..it was a joke !!!
     
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  10. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Poo-Bah (10,026) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Gonna call 911 for a "wellness check" on you. See ya in 72 hours.......
     
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  11. Eddiehop

    Eddiehop Defender (651) Jun 28, 2014 Texas
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    Any of the fresh hops going to be canned I should be on the lookout for when I come up to Seattle the 1st week of September?
     
  12. John_M

    John_M Poo-Bah (7,358) Oct 25, 2003 Oregon
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    Some. Ft. George and Culmination come immediately to mind. Plus Double Moutains killer green and red are bottled.

    Early September might be a bit early for those beers. Not sure they'll be out by then, but I would keep an eye out for them.
     
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  13. ppilot

    ppilot Initiate (134) Jul 17, 2009 Oregon

    Stopped by Occidental after work and tried their fresh hop pilsner. What made it more interesting was that I ordered a 4oz pour of the normal pilsner. There was not a massive difference but it was definitely quite noticeable and I quite enjoyed it.
     
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  14. ppilot

    ppilot Initiate (134) Jul 17, 2009 Oregon

    Sounds like Fresh Hop Elliott is being released on Thursday. Always a fantastic and one I look forward to every year.
     
  15. vurt

    vurt Poo-Bah (1,750) Apr 11, 2004 Oregon
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    I hope some of those cans make it over to the Beaverton location this Thursday.

    Kegs would be nice too.

    I guess Mrs. vurt and I will have to drop by this Thursday, just in case.
     
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  16. sharpski

    sharpski Meyvn (1,277) Oct 11, 2010 Oregon
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    Level releasing FH Oktoberfest (Hallertauer) and FH Game On (Tettnanger) at the brewery today.
     
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  17. distantmantra

    distantmantra Meyvn (1,201) May 23, 2011 Washington
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    I'm driving to Oregon on Saturday but heading straight for Astoria and further south along the coast so missing all this Portland fresh hop goodness. [sigh]

    Might stop through the city next Wednesday, though. We'll see.
     
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  18. jpbebeau

    jpbebeau Aspirant (252) Sep 11, 2011 Washington

    You know, we could drive through Portland and Newberg... (just sayin')
     
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  19. John_M

    John_M Poo-Bah (7,358) Oct 25, 2003 Oregon
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    Let's come at this a different way this time. Has anyone ever had a FH Oktoberfest beer where you felt the fresh hops really added anything to the aroma or flavor profile? By that I mean, did you feel as if you could detect that the beer had been made with fresh hops?

    If the answer is yes, can you recall the name of some of those beers?
     
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  20. weaverr

    weaverr Aspirant (204) Jun 10, 2008 California

    I liked the Level FH Oktoberfest last year, it was an improvement over their regular Oktoberfest.
     
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  21. vurt

    vurt Poo-Bah (1,750) Apr 11, 2004 Oregon
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    Oktoberfresh from Zoiglhaus.

    I didn't particularly care for the combination when I tried it a couple years ago, but its fresh hop pedigree was evident in the aroma and flavor.
     
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  22. derftron

    derftron Devotee (451) Feb 8, 2012 Oregon

    I really liked the Zioglehaus OktoberFresh last year. I havent had their normal oktoberfest beer (do they make one??) so i cant speak to any improvements or detriments that the FH provide.
     
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  23. ppilot

    ppilot Initiate (134) Jul 17, 2009 Oregon

    Zoiglhaus Fresh Hop Oktoberfest was one of my favorite fresh hop beers last year.
     
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  24. beefandbean22

    beefandbean22 Aspirant (275) Oct 15, 2008 Oregon
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    Looks like fresh hop Eliot got released today in both Portland and Beaverton. Looking forward to it, was my favorite last year.
     
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  25. vurt

    vurt Poo-Bah (1,750) Apr 11, 2004 Oregon
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    Fresh Centennial Hop Eliot. Yes please.
     
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  26. derftron

    derftron Devotee (451) Feb 8, 2012 Oregon

    well well well. my office is only a quick hop to the beaverton location. I know where i will be at 4pm :slight_smile:
     
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  27. derftron

    derftron Devotee (451) Feb 8, 2012 Oregon

    As promised.....

    Straight from the source, and happy hour pricing to boot! Wow, the nose on this is pure wet hop goodness, and the flavor is bursting with hops. Between this and Occidental, FH season is off to a great start.

    Added bonus, they already have cans ready to go :slight_smile:

     
  28. vurt

    vurt Poo-Bah (1,750) Apr 11, 2004 Oregon
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    @derftron speaks truth. FH Eliot is, once again, a most excellent fresh hop beer.

    [​IMG]

    Hazy because FRESH HOPS. And lots of 'em.
     
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  29. John_M

    John_M Poo-Bah (7,358) Oct 25, 2003 Oregon
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    Am drinking a lovely a lovely glass of Rusty Nail at the moment, but even so, color me very, very jealous. Can't wait to find this on tap around town. Sounds devine...
     
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  30. vurt

    vurt Poo-Bah (1,750) Apr 11, 2004 Oregon
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    Moar pints of FH Eliot with Mrs. vurt. And cans to take home.

    [​IMG]

    The nose is enticing. The flavor is exceptional. And the hop burps, if I may, are exquisite.
     
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  31. 66jzmstr

    66jzmstr Aspirant (242) Jul 17, 2005 Washington

    Driving back home and up through Portland on the 31st. It sounds like FH Occidental Pils will be available then, but I'll have to keep my eyes out for Eliot as well!
     
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  32. dphi

    dphi Initiate (110) Apr 14, 2013 Oregon

    Ah, the time of year that I wish I liked Centennial hops
     
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  33. ppilot

    ppilot Initiate (134) Jul 17, 2009 Oregon

    It's definitely a fine line between getting that great fresh hop flavor and getting overwhelming onion. Level had a Fresh Hop beer last year that tasted like chewing on a Centennial hop....couldn't finish the beer.
     
  34. ppilot

    ppilot Initiate (134) Jul 17, 2009 Oregon

    Did you confirm with the distributors or the Brewery about the Occidental Fresh Hop? I would actually be surprised if there was any left and even then I would probably try to find a fresh hop beer that was brewed more recently. Fresh Hop beers start losing that amazing fresh flavor really really fast.
     
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  35. 66jzmstr

    66jzmstr Aspirant (242) Jul 17, 2005 Washington

    Unless I was transposing info for another beer, someone in another thread (I thought) had mentioned FH Occidental Pils would be available for a while.
     
  36. John_M

    John_M Poo-Bah (7,358) Oct 25, 2003 Oregon
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    Yes. As I mentioned earlier, according to the bartender at Occidental, they expect to have it around for a couple of months. At least.
     
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  37. derftron

    derftron Devotee (451) Feb 8, 2012 Oregon

    FWIW, didnt get any onion with the FH Eliot. I am also very sensitive to the onion taste, but for some reason i think it a different hop that does it to me. any others that come to mind? sorachi ace???
     
  38. ppilot

    ppilot Initiate (134) Jul 17, 2009 Oregon

    Unless they are doing other hop variaties, this doesn't make very much sense. No brewery is going to hold onto fresh hop beers that long and when I stopped by last week, I got a very different answer in terms of production allotment.
     
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  39. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Poo-Bah (10,026) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    A lot of folks get dill from Sorachi. I thought Simcoe was the onion/fish hop? Shrug.
     
  40. derftron

    derftron Devotee (451) Feb 8, 2012 Oregon

    For any SW Portland folks; FH Eliot in cans at Johns Mkt. so yeah, I bought one :slight_smile:
     
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