[ALERT] this post may contain long/tiring day + 3rd/4th homebrew ramblings. Well, I got my fresh hops. Plentifully, in fact. More than I really wanted, but given the choices, how could I NOT go with what I got? They were selling them in 8 oz packs, and had cascade, simcoe, and citra, so I got one of each! Gonna brew tomorrow morning, so trying to finalize a process and recipe, but mostly the process. I have multiple schools of thought, and haven't really figured out which way is best yet... I don't want to brew two full batches, which a pound and a half of fresh hops would certainly work for, but then I of course need to brew more than my usual five gallons, so I thought perhaps something along the lines of a party-gyle would be in order here. The thing is, I have a ten gallon fermentation bucket (actual volume more like 14 gallons, so it's meant for ten gallons of finished beer). I also have a second freezer/controller setup specifically for use with this bucket. So I thought why not just make something along the lines of a partigyle, but put it all in one bucket? So I was thinking of just using all golden promise and making it a fresh hop/GP smash. The thing is, I've heard lots of ranting and raving about how great GP is, and I already have enough for one 5 gallon batch, so this kinda falls in place naturally. However, I haven't actually tried this grain myself, so I'm not exactly sure what to expect. And it's not in beersmith either, not that there's a whole lot that could tell me about it anyway. I'm estimating the recipe using maris otter. What can I expect from GP? Now I want the hops to shine here, and don't want to dry it out with sugar or thicken it up with crystal, nor blast it with anything but the plentiful fresh hops that I have acquired. I just want straight up fresh hops hoppy goodness. Any pellet or leaf hops added will be minimal. But I don't quite know where exactly my personal "optimal" range is on this one either. Not only that, but given the (perhaps controversial) "plan" I have formulated here, anything resembling "numbers" on this one are likely to have a large variance, % coefficient of variation, standard error, standard deviation, P value, Z value, Q value, PBJ value, and B value (the B stands for beer). I would have to essentially brew two batches in parallel, starting with five gallons worth of grain, mashing, sparging, then while boiling and cooling the first half, have the second half of the batch mashing. So it's not exactly a party-gyle, and not exactly a double batch day either, because ultimately it's all going into one bucket, and the recipes would be essentially the same. That's plan A. Plan B is actually probably the more optimal plan, but the less likely to actually occur plan, which is why it's plan B. Plan B would be to bottle the batch of oatmeal stout that's already in there, and just make it a gigantic double brew day, making two five gallon batches, and splitting up the fresh hops half and half, 12 oz per batch. But then I'd have to bottle one and brew two batches in a day, not to mention having to make a decision (gasp!) on how to split up my hops, and possibly even decide on possible different base malts, and ....................... pfffffffffffffffttt. I'm damn tired from school this week. Really I wish the hops had come in either last week or next week!! I assume I need to keep them in the fridge overnight? So anyway, I have no idea what I'm going to do tomorrow. But something will be done, and those beautiful hops will be made into beer tomorrow. Randoms extraneous musings: I am aware there will be a lot of wort loss to hops, and plan to account for this by using a little extra grain/water, and possibly some mo too IF I were to go the full monty route, how should I split the hops? Should I split the grains into two different smashes? Should I buy that beachfront property in Arizona? So many decisions, so little time... I'm not just a little pissed the fuck off at microsoft again today, this time for their pile of garbage ms word. Should I track down a microsoft programmer and beat them to a bloody pulp with a copy of MS Word that's installed on a machine that runs windows 7? how do fresh citra, cascade, and simcoe compare with pellets, and is there some matrix I can solve that optimizes the possible combinations of usages of three hops and one grain, or two hops and two grains, to make the perfect fresh hop ale or pair of pales? (lol, I'm taking linear algebra now, no calculus this time around). Don't wait to reply, because tomorrow come around ten-ish, I'm out the door, and whatever happens is going to happen, so any replies after that will probably be in retrospect.