Fresh Hop Season 2021

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  1. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,210) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Which, as you well know, I will never accept.

    So.

    You want to just keep beating down the same grass until August '22?

    And then start anew?

    Cool.

    I'm in.
     
  2. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,210) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Make sure you have your distributors license, FTC permits, and post all the alcohol on your states LCB website before sale. Bootlegging is, after all, still illegal.

    Not that I'd know.......
     
  3. distantmantra

    distantmantra Pooh-Bah (2,942) May 23, 2011 Washington
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    I hit 60 uniques last night, have four more in the fridge. Thinking I need to get one more. 65 sounds good.
     
  4. afrokaze

    afrokaze Pooh-Bah (1,871) Jun 12, 2009 Oregon
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    I have no dog in the "fresh" vs "wet" fight... Our method is taking fresh harvested, undried hops that we typically get from the farm in the morning we intend to use them. They get flash frozen with liquid nitrogen so we can crush them easily, the point being to expose more of the lupulin glands and oils for easier extraction in the beer. The hops immediately get bagged and thrown into a sanitized brite tank, which gets purged with oxygen and then finished beer is transferred onto the hops. We recirculate the beer for a while, carb it, and package it within a day or two.

    I think the results in terms of the preservation of flavor and especially aroma speak for themselves. The process has won many awards and been adopted by many others who have also won awards using it. But at the end of the day, fresh hop season is mostly just for the fun of it. The amount of FH beer is a drop in the bucket and is a lot of extra work for very little actual benefit. It's a way to celebrate our region and I think more of the attention for FH season should go to honoring the farmers and workers who provide something crucial to our industry year round.
     
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  5. kemoarps

    kemoarps Pooh-Bah (2,848) Apr 30, 2008 Washington
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    I was particularly impressed with that one as well. And we must have passed by your fam as we were fortunate enough to be at the game, too (and the Kraken game that evening, for that matter)!
    Glad you enjoyed it. What a season it has been

    I'm digging into my last* unique FH offering for the year, and it is the 55th I've had this season. By far the most I've ever gotten to in one season (thankfully I have a partner who jumped in with both feet... if she hadn't embraced things so fully, left to my own devices, I probably wouldn't have gotten past 30, ha!). And for that matter, as stated before, this FH season I've probably surpassed the previous six months (or more) combined of beer drinking just for the freshies! Truly, this is the most wonderful time of year. And the goodnatured back and forth about fresh vs wet (I've never heard a song about someone being so wet and so clean clean... just saying) just adds to it. Cheers, and thanks to all the brewers/farmers/everyone else involved in the process for what is truly the season for celebration.

    [​IMG]
    I want to compile a list of all 55, similar to what has been posted in this thread previously, but it might take me a minute. Be right back...
     
  6. woemad

    woemad Grand Pooh-Bah (5,003) Jun 8, 2003 Washington
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    Well, that Seahawks game was much better than the previous one, for sure. That game went a long ways toward making me want to punch a baby.
     
  7. kemoarps

    kemoarps Pooh-Bah (2,848) Apr 30, 2008 Washington
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    I liked the idea of tiers as opposed to a straight ordening, so . Within tiers there could be some jostling, and I'm sure as I finish off the stragglers from the four-packs my opinions will change and all that, but for now, this is how I would organize them, with all the given caveats regarding time and place and personal preference and that.
    Some of the placements -- especially compared to other placements -- really surprised me.

    Tier one: (9)
    Holy Mountain - Strata Fresh Hop
    Stoup - Fresh Hop Fiend: Mosaic
    Varietal + Holy Mountain - Hopfen Keller
    Ex Novo - FH Eliot
    Burke-Gilman - Seems So Long Since We Walked in the Moonlight
    Ravenna - Wet Season: SABRO
    Ravenna - Wet Season: SIMCOE
    Fremont - Head Full of Fresh Hops


    Tier two: (21)
    Burke-Gilman - Fresh Hopotheosis
    Stemma - Fractured Universe
    Holy Mountain + Cloudburst - Wetwired
    Fremont - Hazy Cowiche Canyon
    Machine House - Fresh Hop Simcoe Bitter
    Holy Mountain - Cone & Cone
    Ravenna - Wet Season: STRATA
    Breakside - What Fresh Beast
    Cloudburst - Wet Is As Wet Does
    Bale Breaker - Homegrown Beer No. 8
    Matchless - Fresh Pine
    Seapine - Citra Fresh Hop
    Hellbent - Strata Fresh Hop
    Stoup - Fresh Hop Fiend: Cashmere

    HUB - Fresh Hop Downstream
    Stoup - Yesterday's Sunset
    Single Hill - Ecstasy of Pink
    Stoup - Fresh Hop Fiend Italian Pilsner
    Matchless - Fresh Fluff
    Ravenna - Wet Season: MOSAIC
    Silver City - Wet Hop Tropic Haze

    Tier three: (19)
    Fremont - Field to Ferment
    Holy Mountain + Fast Fashion - Buckaroo of the Year
    Block 15 - Fresh Catch
    Fremont - Cowiche Canyon
    Ex Novo - Fresh Hop Mass Ascension
    Cloudburst - Wetness Protection Program
    Lumberbeard - Fresh Dreams
    Cloudburst - Aqua Seafoam Shame
    Cloudburst - Wet Brurrito

    Loowit - Lando Hoprissian
    Little Beast - Green Keeper
    Matchless - Fresh Bois
    Level - Fresh-Hop American Lager
    HUB - Fresh Hop Abominable
    Breakside - @Portland Citra
    Future Primitive - Centennials for Millennials
    Black Raven - Fresh Hop West Coast IPA
    Occidental - Fresh Hop Pilsner
    Fort George - Rock, Paper, Centennial

    Tier the fourth: (7)
    Cascade Lakes - Koosah
    Old Stove - Fresh Hop Streaker Citra Hazy Pale
    Wander - Idaho Gem
    Flying Lion - Strata Fresh Hop Pale Ale
    Matchless - Easy Being Green

    Ground Breaker - EPOCH Fresh Hop
    Level - Fresh-Hop Hazy IPA

    While both are obviously important, and the ranking reflect how much I liked the beer overall, I did weight things more in favour of good FH expression in a decent beer over a good beer with minimal FH expression, if that makes sense.
    Overall, the winner is obvious: me (and all y'all for the same reasons).
    I really enjoyed the variety of different approaches to the theme, and I feel like it helped me to get a better handle on some of the individual hops themselves as well (for example, my partner REALLY likes Citra).
    I also appreciated that the rankings were not all clusetered to a specific time frame either: my top rated FH beer was one of the earlier ones I had, but the second place participant was one of the more recent ones, with that same temporal distribution to be found throughout.
    Anyway, cheers everyone, and until this time next season... at least we've still got great beer all over, even if it's not fresh hopped anymore!!
     
  8. snaotheus

    snaotheus Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,308) Oct 6, 2008 Washington
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    This season has been awesome...
    :smiley:
     
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  9. kemoarps

    kemoarps Pooh-Bah (2,848) Apr 30, 2008 Washington
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    Yeah. Though, honestly, a big part of it was: for someone who's supposed to be the second coming... Trevor Lawrence just looks... bad.
    But: hey, I'll take it!
    We were sitting a couple of rows in front of some very vociferous Jags fans. The combination of dejection and inebriation by the end of the game was pretty satisfying, too. Plus, I got to meet Taima, THE Seahawk!!
     
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  10. woemad

    woemad Grand Pooh-Bah (5,003) Jun 8, 2003 Washington
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    I wasn't entirely sure there were Jag fans. How did Miami even lose to them? Were the Dolphins delivered to the wrong stadium?
     
  11. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,210) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Such things exist?
     
  12. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,253) Oct 25, 2003 Oregon
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    State of professional football isn't all that great in the sunshine state right now.
     
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  13. heyhiggi

    heyhiggi Devotee (311) Sep 6, 2014 Oregon
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    At Roscoes last night had F.H. Piney the Fresher by Laurelwood and it was delicious. Top 10 favorite. Maybe top 5
     
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  14. distantmantra

    distantmantra Pooh-Bah (2,942) May 23, 2011 Washington
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    Clearly you did not watch The Good Place.

    BORTLES!!!!!
     
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  15. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,253) Oct 25, 2003 Oregon
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    This is great news. Hopefully they'll still have it on tap this weekend.

    Last year I tried a Laurelwood FH IPA over at their NE Sandy location and it was flat out awful. Very glad to hear they're back on track, making great FH IPA's again.
     
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  16. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,210) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Clearing out some stragglers. Finishing up a Ferment Chinook FH. Solid, nice, but one was probably enough for this year.

    [​IMG]
     
  17. distantmantra

    distantmantra Pooh-Bah (2,942) May 23, 2011 Washington
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    I've got 6 unique FHs left in the fridge:
    Old Stove Strata
    Old Stove Mosaic
    Dru Bru Simcoe
    Reubens FH Double Crush
    Urban Family FH Zeek and Destroy
    Lagunitas Contents Under Fresher
     
  18. kemoarps

    kemoarps Pooh-Bah (2,848) Apr 30, 2008 Washington
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    Yeah, there was a little bit of that at the game too, ha. Would have been augmented if we'd actually signed him a couple of weeks back.
    We were also surrounded by a couple of Rangers fans at the Kraken game that night, and they were much less drunken/obnoxious, and much more knowledgeable/conversational
     
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  19. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,210) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    An Uplifting Work Of Staggering Wetness, by Cloudburst, might be my last of the season.

    Unless, I find stragglers in my stash or at the store.

    [​IMG]
     
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  20. distantmantra

    distantmantra Pooh-Bah (2,942) May 23, 2011 Washington
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    Ridgewood is doing a fresh hop clearance sale right now. Most of their fresh hop cans are only $2, excluding the last few new releases that just came out. Grabbed three cans last night so I’m nearing 70 uniques for 2021.
     
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  21. MGarret

    MGarret Aspirant (299) Aug 13, 2015 Oregon

    Welp... it's November, and my beer fridge is officially out of FH choices. Actually kind of excited to get through a bunch of the lagers I've been stockpiling! 40-some unique FH beers tried this year, mostly sticking to my rules of WCIPA over hazy, single IPAs over double, and ignoring Strata beers (just not my thing). Some superlatives:

    BEST IPAs:
    - Sunriver D'Kine (Mosaic)
    - Breakside FH Wanderlust (Cascade)
    - Little Machine Mosaic
    - Fremont Head Full of Fresh Hops (Mosaic+Citra)
    - Reuben's Double Crush (Citra - breaking 2 rules... Hazy and DIPA, but damn good)
    - Double Mountain Killer Green (Centennial)

    BEST NON-IPAs:
    - Zoigl-kolsch (Tettnang)
    - Boss Rambler Stokes Fresh (willamette)
    - Heater Allen Harvest Lager (Willamette)

    BREWERY NOTES
    - Grains of Wrath - tried Dystopia, Crypt Keeper, and Grave Dancer, all of which were very good (just below my top tier above). Had not tried any FH beers from them before.
    - Same for Breakside, tried most of their FH beers this year and were all very good to excellent.
    - However, was not enamored with Ft. George FH beers this year. Rock Paper Centennial and Fresh (Simcoe) were not as good as some of their non-FH IPAs.
    - Fremont HFOFH was great, but thought Cowiche was not as good as past years. Didn't find any F2F sadly.
    - Zoiglhaus Oktoberfresh this year was not as good as last, and far below Zoigl-kolsch.

    DISHONORABLE MENTION
    - Worst of the year was Lumberbeard/Varietal Fresh Connection, by a mile. Intrigued by El Dorado FH, but it was a smoky mess that honestly shouldn't have been released.
     
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  22. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,253) Oct 25, 2003 Oregon
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    Everyone's taste is different of course and my "best list" would not be the same as yours (though some of your choices would be on my list as well). However, I unfortunately would agree with your assessment of the Lumberbeard concoction. Not sure if it was the worst FH beer I tried this beer, but it was certainly in the running.
     
  23. vurt

    vurt Grand Pooh-Bah (3,201) Apr 11, 2004 Oregon
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    My Fresh Hop Season 2021:

    Numbers
    • Number of different FH beers I tried this year: 82 (What? I split a lot of beers with Mrs. vurt.)
    • Number of different hops: 23
    • Most popular hops: Strata and Centennial (14 beers each), Simcoe (12), and Mosaic (10)
    • Most popular hop farms: Goschie Farms, Silverton, OR (10 beers), Crosby Hop Farm, Woodburn, OR (8), Coleman Farms, Woodburn, OR (7)
    • Number of different beer styles: 9*
    Favorites
    Listed in the order I tried them:
    • Ex Novo Fresh Hop Eliot IPA (Goschie Farms Centennial)
    • Zoiglhaus Fresh Hop Kölsch (Goschie Farms Tettnang)
    • Breakside Fresh Hop Sterling Pilsner (Sterling)
    • Breakside Fresh Hop Wanderlust IPA (Cascade)
    • Sasquatch Fresh Hop Don't Be Scared IPA (Amarillo)
    • Breakside Fresh Hop India Golden Ale (Crystal)
    • Grains of Wrath Fresh Hop Grave Dancer IPA (Simcoe)
    • Machine House Fresh Hop Simcoe Bitter (Simcoe)
    • Barley Brown's Fresh Hop Pallet Jack IPA (Mosaic)
    • Von Ebert Fresh Hop Volatile Substance IPA (Mosaic)
    • Fremont Head Full of Fresh Hops (Citra, Mosaic)
    Most Improved
    After two years of comments like "not the Block 15 fresh hop ale I was hoping for" and "I'm not sorry I tried it, but it's disappointing," Block 15 finally produced a fresh hop ale worth their name. This year's Fresh Catch was an IPA instead of a Pale Ale, and its fresh Amarillo goodness left me "quite pleasantly surprised." This year's Mazama Green Magic was also an unexpectedly good beer, and Double Mountain Killer Green was several steps back in the right direction.

    Dark Horse
    Sasquatch Fresh Hop Don't Be Scared IPA was my dark horse winner for 2021. A stunningly good fresh hop beer from a brewer whose offerings I generally consider solid to good.

    Best Value
    4-packs of Bend Brewing Fresh Trop IPA (BC Hop Ranch Simcoe)

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    * Full disclosure: 75% of the FH beers I tried this year were IPAs. So there's that.
     
  24. woemad

    woemad Grand Pooh-Bah (5,003) Jun 8, 2003 Washington
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    I never did get a glass of standard Cowiche Canyon this year, although I had one of the hazy version at Community Pint a couple weeks ago. Rachel, who co-owns CP and is also the head brewer at TT's, told me she felt it was a little smoky, but my palate wasn't sensitive enough to note it, at least not that night.
     
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  25. sloejams

    sloejams Savant (1,221) Oct 8, 2004 Oregon
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    I made it up to around 70 this year - some pours bigger than others. Some I revisited several times, so I was lucky to try once. It truly is the greatest time to drink beer.

    My favorites in alpha order:

    Barley Brown's Fresh Hop Pallet Jack (Mosaic)
    Breakside Fresh Hop WanderJack Strata
    Breakside Fresh Hop Wanderlust
    Breakside Fresh Sterling Pilsner
    Ex Novo Fresh Hop Eliot Simcoe
    Ex Novo Fresh Hop Perle Haggard
    Fort George Fresh IPA Simcoe
    Fremont Field to Fermont
    pFriem Fresh Hop El Dorado IPA
    Ruse Intercepter (Fresh Hop 2021)
    Trap Door Fresh Glowed Up
    Von Ebert Volatile Substance - Fresh Hop
    Zoiglhaus Fresh Hop Sterling Pilsner

    I have true love for the nose punch from a fresh hop Sterling Pilsner and what has to be the easiest drinking beer on this planet. More of those, please.
     
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  26. snaotheus

    snaotheus Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,308) Oct 6, 2008 Washington
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    I heard a number of people mention it, but I detected no trace of smoke, myself.
     
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  27. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,520) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    Well what a glorious surprise for me! Just arrived in the cooler, canned 10/19, Homegrown Wet Hop Ale from Moonlight brewing. An amazing soft mouthfeel and na intriguing floral, herbal, peachy flavor.

    Apparently they are starting their own hop farm as they describe this beer as "infused with our entire harvest of Sonoma County grown hops..."

    Nice little surprise for the end of the season
     
  28. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,142) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    I'm still drinking through my stash, cowiche has been my favorite this year. Again. As usual. HFOFH is great as well. There is a decided decline in the number of FH beers CO brewers have produced in the last decade. FH Superpower was the only local I grabbed, and it can hang with the Fremont freshies.

    As for wet hopped vs fresh hopped... a recipe will usually call for FRESH Thyme instead of dry Thyme when cooking. I have never seen it called WET Thyme. When buying fruits and veggies the ones that haven't been somehow processed are called FRESH produce. Frozen peas are NOT fresh. What I deduce from this is that hops harvested and immediately used in beer would be fresh hops. Hops that are frozen are no longer fresh. Hops that have been kiln dried are no longer fresh. Beer is food and the nomenclature should be consistent.
     
  29. kemoarps

    kemoarps Pooh-Bah (2,848) Apr 30, 2008 Washington
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    The lady at Ridgewood also talked about the smoke she found in CC this year, and gave us a taster as an example, as she felt people should be aware of what they were getting themselves into. I didn't really get any smoke in the taster (I think, in retrospect, it was the hazy version). I had a can of the clear CC, and a crowler of the hazy. I didn't note any smoke in the hazy version, and the canned base CC, I could find a touch of smoke astringency at the very end, but mostly when I was looking for it. (side note: Got a lot of my FH haul from Ridgewood, after never having been there before. Really positive first impressions. Looking forward to revisiting in the future.)

    There was a little bit of smoke, but I think it was overblown in general. I also didn't feel this year's cowiche was as strong as years past in general, unfortunately, though I actually felt like the little bit of smoke I did note actually kind of worked. Like I don't think I'd go out of my way to seek out a smoked IPA, but I think the flavours can come together to still create something tasty.
     
  30. snaotheus

    snaotheus Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,308) Oct 6, 2008 Washington
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    Fresh hop shopping trips this year were my first experiences with Ridgewood, but I wasn't able to sit and have a pint. It's on my list now, though, maybe the next time wife and I have a day off without the kids...
     
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  31. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,210) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Found one from Atwood yesterday, will probably get to it later today.
     
  32. DefenCorps

    DefenCorps Grand Pooh-Bah (4,362) Jan 18, 2007 Oregon
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    One of the many awesome things about FH season is appreciating how the same beer is different things to different people. I'm used to people not sharing my taste in music/beer/food/life choices, but when I see a FH beer unappreciated, it's uniquely puzzling. This year, it's Rock, Paper, Centennial. I don't understand y'all who don't love it.
     
  33. vurt

    vurt Grand Pooh-Bah (3,201) Apr 11, 2004 Oregon
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    !
    Not long after they opened (and long before they sold themselves to AB-InBev), Golden Road Brewing in Los Angeles made a smoked IPA. It needed more finesse than they were capable of at the time, but as a proof of concept I thought it was really tasty.

    You know who could probably make a good smoked IPA? Wayfinder. Yes indeed.
     
  34. sharpski

    sharpski Pooh-Bah (2,584) Oct 11, 2010 Oregon
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    Or, since their Rauch Helles is the only smoke beer I actually like, I nominate pFriem. We'll create a market for those smoke-tainted hops and a new NW tradition all in one fell swoop.
     
  35. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,253) Oct 25, 2003 Oregon
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    FH season is winding to an end, but Roscoe's still has a few. Having a fh mirror pond and a fh piney the fresher from Laurelwood. Not sure I'm loving the piney as much as @heyhiggi, but it's pretty good and is considerably better than the drek I had from Laurelwood last year. The fh mirror pond is also pretty good.
     
  36. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,253) Oct 25, 2003 Oregon
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    Now at Belmont Station, drinking what I'm pretty sure will be my last fh beer of the season. A glass of Reuben's fh double crush. Excellent hazy dipa, with decent fh character.
     
  37. vurt

    vurt Grand Pooh-Bah (3,201) Apr 11, 2004 Oregon
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    I like every syllable of this post.
     
  38. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,520) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    https://mountainroseherbs.com/catalog/herbs-spices/bulk
    I know that most people aren't herbalists and don't work with herbs regularly. Mountain Rose is one of the premier suppliers of herbs in the country and based in oregon.
    Please go on their website and find me an herb that isn't dried
     
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  39. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,142) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    https://www.bobsredmill.com/blog/healthy-living/dried-vs-fresh-herbs-which-is-better/

    It appears dried and fresh aren't the same thing. The dried herbs can be fresh as in the dried herbs haven't been sitting around, but they're still not fresh herb. The adjective is describing the dried herbs. However when describing food....
    "fresh

    /freSH/

    adjective
    1.(of food) recently made or obtained; not canned, frozen, or otherwise preserved.
    "fresh fruit""

    Seems that brewers aren't the most educated of folks...

    And for fun ...
    wet

    /wet/

    adjective
    1.covered or saturated with water or another liquid.
    "she followed, slipping on the wet rock"

    Seems like all hops get wet, but only non processed hops would be fresh. Your example, while a good try to confuse, misses the mark for me Spidey...
     
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  40. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,142) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    @unlikelyspiderperson
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    Maria (Mountain Rose Herbs)

    Nov 7, 2021, 6:24 AM PST

    Hello, Jason,

    Thank you for reaching out! I sincerely apologize for any confusion. We sell dried herbs. The word fresh is only meant to convey that we don't leave them sitting around gathering dust and going stale. Again, I apologize for any confusion. Please let us know if we may be of further assistance and I hope you have a wonderful day!
    Maria - Customer Service Representative

    Maybe they are a subsidiary of Sierra nevada?
     
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