Getting a porter/stout thats thin and watery instead of robust

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  1. DarkDragon999

    DarkDragon999 Aspirant (281) Feb 13, 2013 Rhode Island

    How often has this happened to you ? We'd all love all porters/stouts to be roasty and robust but sometimes we see one that looks interesting and we bring it home and crack it open and it's thin and watery. It truly is a major letdown.
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  2. papaholmz

    papaholmz Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2012 South Carolina
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    Every time I'm dumb enough to drink Guiness again.
  3. DarkDragon999

    DarkDragon999 Aspirant (281) Feb 13, 2013 Rhode Island

    Heh Im excluding Guiness because everyone knows its thin and watery. Im talking more about less known beers.
  4. Moose90

    Moose90 Meyvn (1,455) Nov 25, 2012 Washington
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    Breckenridge Vanilla Porter, Kona Porter, Guinness Draught, to name a few. Major bummers,
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  5. CommanderOfAwesome

    CommanderOfAwesome Devotee (469) Aug 30, 2012 California

    Drakes Drakonic. Thinner than a decent porter and it claims to be an Imperial Stout.
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  6. DarkDragon999

    DarkDragon999 Aspirant (281) Feb 13, 2013 Rhode Island

    Ahhh Kona Porter is on my list of beers to try but if you say its thin and watery I will skip it and trust your judgment. Thanks for the warning.
  7. Beefytits4

    Beefytits4 Initiate (0) Nov 2, 2011 Illinois

    I try to stay away from Irish Dry Stouts, they always seem a little thin to me.
  8. DarkDragon999

    DarkDragon999 Aspirant (281) Feb 13, 2013 Rhode Island

    Im wondering if there are any beers that say "robust" on the label but arent actually robust. I know Smuttynose and Southern Tier's porters say robust and they most definately are.
  9. draheim

    draheim Poo-Bah (2,431) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    Central Waters Bourbon Barrel Stout and Bourbon Cherry Stout were both pretty thin for imperial stouts.
    Rogue Hazelnut Nectar was pretty thin for a porter.
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  10. NickyDee21

    NickyDee21 Devotee (467) Dec 23, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    Was really excited to try some DuClaw Sweet Baby Jesus. Flavor was what I expected. Mouthfeel made this beer a near disappointment for me. Way too thin. If they could fix this, I'd be happy.
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  11. klaybie

    klaybie Initiate (0) Nov 15, 2009 Illinois

    For me it seems like it's 50/50 when trying a new stout. I try to check reviews of beers until I try them so as not to sway my judgement. However, when I try one with a thin mouthfeel I immediately feel as though I have wasted my time/money.

    That being said, you can pass on Ft. Collins' stouts. Tried them the other day and watery is the only way to describe the mouthfeel.
  12. SenorHops

    SenorHops Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2010 Rhode Island

    I think Rogue Hazelnut Nectar is considered a brown ale, but I agree that it is very thin and watery, along with a very artificial hazelnut flavor. I actually find a lot of porters to be very thin. After awhile I just assumed that was the style.
  13. draheim

    draheim Poo-Bah (2,431) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    I stand corrected. Still, I think I'd like it more if it had a little more body.
  14. DarkDragon999

    DarkDragon999 Aspirant (281) Feb 13, 2013 Rhode Island

    No its not the style. Smuttynose, Southern Tier, and Founder's porters are definately not thin.
  15. TapeDeck

    TapeDeck Initiate (0) Mar 31, 2011 Illinois

    Sometimes the style actually demands particular things that are at odds with what you enjoy. A lot of the porters I like are way outside the brewing guidelines for porter. The imperial stouts I dislike are usually well within the guidelines, and the ones I like, are always pushing the upper limits.

    Gotta remember that what you like doesn't have any correlation with how a particular beer is designed. What you like should just dictate what you buy, and what you skip. So it kind of makes sense to keep track of the porters and stouts that you DISLIKE as much as keeping track of what you like.
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  16. Philly82785

    Philly82785 Aspirant (235) Dec 17, 2008 Minnesota

    Left Hand Milk Stout was a HUGE disapointment
  17. DarkDragon999

    DarkDragon999 Aspirant (281) Feb 13, 2013 Rhode Island

    Otter Creek Stovepipe Porter is definately thin and watery. I saw someone here call it a "crowd pleaser" well its not to me.
  18. gory4d

    gory4d Defender (677) Apr 14, 2007 Texas
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    Right, who says a porter/stout (same difference) has to be robust? If you think of porter as historically related to the Flanders red style, you might have more of an open mind as to what it's supposed to be like. Of course, if the OP likes his stouts/porters robust, more power to him.
  19. TapeDeck

    TapeDeck Initiate (0) Mar 31, 2011 Illinois

    ... and yet Left Hand Milk Stout would probably be one of the first picks for an ideal example of the Milk/Sweet Stout category for brewers. So most likely it means you will not be enamored of anything in that category.
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  20. mecummins

    mecummins Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2012 Illinois

    For me personally, Deschutes Black Butte porter was watery and not what i was expecting at all. It was a bit of a let down after all the love it gets here. I can only assume that it's better on draft?
  21. Bluecane

    Bluecane Initiate (0) Dec 30, 2011 New York

    Yep. Cracked this while hanging out with a brewer; when he got excited by it, I was kinda like, man, I'm now not expecting much from your beer.....

    FWIW I like Kona Pipeline Porter, especially for $1/bottle that I pay. It's on the light side, sure, but I still enjoy it.
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  22. Kerrie

    Kerrie Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2012 Michigan

    Had a similar issue with Right Brain's CEO Stout the other night. I guess they just started bottling, so perhaps it's better on tap as well. I'm always disappointed when I get a thin/watery stout.
  23. Mavajo

    Mavajo Zealot (572) Feb 10, 2007 Georgia

    I actually prefer stouts/porters that aren't roasty, so I'm different on that front. But I absolutely :angry: HATE :angry: thin-bodied stouts/porters.
  24. Kinsman

    Kinsman Champion (873) Aug 26, 2009 California

    ST Porter certainly isn't a bad beer but Smutty and Founders set the benchmark for me for robust porters and I remember thinking the Southern Tier I tried lacked the same robustness as those other two. Definitely not thin or watery, but doesn't seem to pack the same punch IMO.
  25. Philly82785

    Philly82785 Aspirant (235) Dec 17, 2008 Minnesota

    Maybe it was a bad keg when I had it, but it tasted like slighlty flavored water.
  26. IamMe90

    IamMe90 Initiate (0) Sep 4, 2012 Wisconsin

    Well, first of all, was it on nitro or regular? Nitro definitely waters down the flavors.

    Also, I love LH Milk Stout but I have had a couple of bottles where the flavors fell a little flat, so I'm sure there's a little batch variation or something going on from time to time. I'd give em another chance (on both nitro and not on nitro) before making a final verdict.
  27. denver10

    denver10 Poo-Bah (2,292) Nov 17, 2010 New Mexico

    Any dark beer by Breckenridge.
  28. Philly82785

    Philly82785 Aspirant (235) Dec 17, 2008 Minnesota

    Pretty sure it was on nitro, I'll have to try it again then.
  29. GardenWaters

    GardenWaters Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2012 Illinois

    Central Waters Satin Solstice Imperial Stout is guilty. No body, and the color reminded me of Coca-Cola being it was pretty transparent, not black by any means.
  30. tjensen3618

    tjensen3618 Initiate (0) Mar 23, 2008 California

    So what's wrong with a Stout or Porter that isn't super robust/thick?

    One of my favorite things is drinking a bunch of bottles of Pipeline Porter, Black Butte, or a Irish Dry Stout on a hot day out on the patio. If you pop a Black Butte porter expecting a chewy fireside type sipping beer, you are drinking it in the wrong setting/frame of mind IMO.
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  31. jbertsch

    jbertsch Meyvn (1,110) Dec 14, 2008 Massachusetts

    Nope. The one time I had it was on draft, and it was a big letdown. I was dumbfounded by the love it gets.
  32. HipsterBrewfus

    HipsterBrewfus Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2012 Maryland

    I came in to write about SBJ. Glad I'm not alone. The only thing that made this beer better was having it on nitro at their place in Ann Arundle MD. It was like a whole other beer. It was amazing.

    I fought the urge to buy another 6 pack shortly afterwards, but then remembered again how goddamn thin it was.
  33. NickyDee21

    NickyDee21 Devotee (467) Dec 23, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    This beer could have easily become one of my favorite go-to 6 pack beers. The mouth feel really jacked that up.
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  34. HipsterBrewfus

    HipsterBrewfus Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2012 Maryland

    My thoughts exactly. I was so pumped up to hear about it, especially all the buzz surrounding it in the area. I mean fuck, peanut butter anything should be delicious. I rushed out and got some and then...

    "Thats it?"

    All because it was watery thin.
  35. jbertsch

    jbertsch Meyvn (1,110) Dec 14, 2008 Massachusetts

    Can't not think of the homebrewed porter I just made. It came out far more watery, thin, and lame than I was aiming for. So now I'm just calling it a table porter... ya know, for children. Like in the old days. In that respect I like to think it's true to style, therefore A+
  36. TheMonkfish

    TheMonkfish Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2012 Chad

    That's the worst. I totally want my stouts to have some heft to them. I don't know what's worse, a watery undercarbonated stout (Left Hand) or on that is thin and carbonated like a soda (Rogue Chocolate Stout and/or my first attempt at homebrew).
  37. Jacurdy60

    Jacurdy60 Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2013 Massachusetts

    My first and only experience with Bell's Porter was similar to this. It was crisp, and not smooth like most porters. And it lacked robustness. I was very disappointed because they have a number of very good beers (Hopslam, for example). It's like they invest all their hard work into making IPA's and pale ale's and just made a porter for variation sake. Maybe I got a bad batch, who knows.
  38. DarkDragon999

    DarkDragon999 Aspirant (281) Feb 13, 2013 Rhode Island

    Nothing I guess but if I paying a lot of money for one and its not robust and thick then I feel as if I wasted my money.
  39. CellarGimp

    CellarGimp Disciple (335) Sep 14, 2011 Missouri

    Porters should only be medium bodied. Even medium-light. If you are expecting a big viscous beer you are in the wrong style category. Having said that, there have been quite a few shitty beers mentioned on here that I agree with. Black Butte Porter is NOT one of them.
  40. TheLostGringo

    TheLostGringo Initiate (0) Dec 7, 2011 Connecticut
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    I am not sure traditional Porter was really designed to be Thick & Robust. I think as long as they taste good there is a place for variations. Love Smuttynose & Founders for it's robust style but also enjoy Mayflower & CCB Jose Marti which in my opinion are much thinner and easier to drink multiples of.
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