Gimmicky Beers

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by MammaGoose, Feb 19, 2013.

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  1. MammaGoose

    MammaGoose Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2013 Wyoming

    I find myself annoyed by gimmicky beers. Like Rogue's Voodoo Maple Bacon Donut nonsense, or some "hybrid" styles like a white stout, and some other things just...bug me. Perhaps I'm just a traditionalist because I would much rather have a fantastic example of a traditional style than some gimmicky garbage that "pushes the boundaries." But, I try to keep an open mind, because creativity and innovation and a bit of risk-taking are all a large part of craft beer. And I have to eat my words when I like some of the gimmicks. Like banana nut bread beer or Belgian style IPAs which I suppose could be considered a hybrid style.

    But some beers are just gimmicks, and that pisses me off. Like Rogue's Voodoo. One I had recently was at Wynkoop Brewing Co in Denver, CO. It was a Rocky Mountain Oyster Stout that was literally fermented with Rocky Mountain oysters. For the uninitiated, Rocky Mountain oysters are cow balls. This was a beer that had been fermented with sliced and roasted cow balls. What's the point? Now, I grew up in the open range hills and mountain valleys of northern Wyoming. I've wrestled calves, cut off balls, thrown them on the branding iron fire, and eaten Rocky Mountain oysters. They're delicious. But, I don't want them in my beer. Curiosity got the best of me, and I do love the fire grilled smoky deliciousness of RMO's, so I ordered a taster of the RMO stout. It was...good. A solid stout, I suppose. But it certainly didn't wow me. It didn't fulfill any kind of awesomeness that the gimmick might have suggested. It was just a pretty good stout. I would have liked it better if it had just been a stout and nothing else.

    So what is your opinion of gimmicky beers? All in good fun? Necessary to push the envelope of innovation in craft beer? Annoying? etc...
     
  2. jar72404

    jar72404 Initiate (0) May 31, 2009 Florida

  3. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Grand Pooh-Bah (4,104) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona
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  4. VDODSON

    VDODSON Initiate (0) Feb 5, 2013 North Dakota

    I agreed 110% with you and would have followed you to the death until you mentioned eating cow nards. Jk, but you're right about the gimmick beers. The most recent one being the 65%ABV being sold in the UK, there has got to be some type of sanity check when it comes to these things. But then I see why american craft beers are so sought after, the brewers have no fear. Unlike strict 100 year old Germany purity laws still in effect, we have the ability to experiment and have done so with great outcome.

    Without those brave souls there would be no Imperial IPA's, guess Im twisted..
     
  5. DarkDragon999

    DarkDragon999 Maven (1,319) Feb 13, 2013 Rhode Island

    If Rogue's Voodoo Maple Bacon Donut came in 4 or 6 packs then I would mind giving that a try or even as a single in a mix a six but 16 bucks for a bomber of that isnt for me.
     
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  6. kzoobrew

    kzoobrew Initiate (0) May 8, 2006 Michigan

    When it comes to beer, gimmick is really a pejorative. If we look at the related definition of gimmick we find "A device employed to cheat, deceive, or trick". I think that intention should really drive the labeling as gimmicky or not. I think a lot of these oddball beers are simply brewers having fun with their beer or maybe pushing the envelope a little but I do not think most are brewing novelty beers made only the create sales. I have no use for novelty beers and understand irritation with those. The oddball or hybrid beers are fine by me, I may not appreciate them but I do not need to appreciate every beer.
     
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  7. Cvescalante

    Cvescalante Initiate (0) Dec 24, 2012 Texas

    Wells banana bread beer, pumpkin beers, JK funk metal, esspresso and coffee beers, and the mint chocolate chip stone collaboration beer are all great examples of why I love that brewers try to innovate! I encourage trying new things
     
  8. tectactoe

    tectactoe Pooh-Bah (2,386) Mar 20, 2012 Michigan
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    I find that there aren't many "gimmicky" beers that turn out to be "great" beers, but I don't necessarily find them annoying either. Without a little creativity, envelope pushing, and oddball thinking, who knows what we'd still be living without today, beer or not.
     
  9. Droogins

    Droogins Initiate (0) Sep 4, 2012 Massachusetts

    I can understand a creative mind wanting to make a beer like Voodoo Doughnut Maple Bacon. I look at those like I look at a Jackson Pollock painting; if you're into that, fine. But a creative mind that makes beer out of pages torn from Moby Dick seems to me like a creative mind that has run out of ideas.

    I mean, really. Novels are not for drinking.
     
  10. fredmugs

    fredmugs Initiate (0) Aug 11, 2012 Indiana

    I think Fat Tire is a gimmicky beer.
     
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  11. maltmaster420

    maltmaster420 Initiate (0) Aug 17, 2005 Oregon

    10-15 years ago stupidly over-hopped beers like Pliny, Heady Topper, and Abrasive would have been viewed as gimmicky. I'd wager Goose Island got called gimmicky back in 1995 when they threw their imperial stout in a bourbon barrel. Creating a device that continuously sprinkles hops into the kettle for the duration of a 90 minute boil sounds gimmicky as fuck, but that beer gets a 95 on this very site. A couple of years ago rye IPAs were rare and dare I say gimmicky, now everyone and their fucking grandma is brewing one.

    tl;dr: Everything new is gimmicky. Unless it works, in which case everyone will start doing it.
     
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  12. whatsleftofyou

    whatsleftofyou Zealot (666) Mar 12, 2006 Michigan

    I both agree and disagree. I don't like breweries who are brewing "gimmicky" beers just to get attention. However if they're legitimately trying to make something neat, then I'm all for it. Craft beer wouldn't be where it is without people pushing boundaries.

    As a homebrewer that likes to make off-the-wall beers sometimes, it's a thrill to put something just stupid in the boil kettle and have it turn out to be a great beer.
     
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  13. w_klon

    w_klon Initiate (0) Aug 1, 2012 Oregon
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    Technically, they're a bull's balls :wink: , but I got what you were saying :grinning:.

    To the idea of "gimmicky beers", some of its just marketing. Ive seen plenty of people that have come to Portland (OR), go to Voodoo Doughnuts (major tourist trap), and when they see the crazy pink bottle at the grocery store, they have to buy it along with the other Rogue bottles next to them (Personally, I tend to like the look of Rogue's bottles more than the beer).

    I also think a lot of it is just creativity and innovation. The brewers dont really know how something is going to taste until they brew it, right? When they do, they sell it, its either well received or not, and then they decide whether they brew it again. Pretty simple.
     
  14. Revenant

    Revenant Initiate (0) Aug 8, 2012 Minnesota

    It is definitely a slippery wire to walk on. Sometimes I have to stop myself when I am out beer shopping. Temptation is there but usually my better judgement prevails.
     
  15. kzoobrew

    kzoobrew Initiate (0) May 8, 2006 Michigan

    Is the beer gimmicky or is the marketing of the beer gimmicky? Is it possible to separate the two?

    Personally I would say there is some definitely gimmick in the marketing but I would not call the beer gimmicky. With all that said I am not sure if the two can be separated even though my opinion is mixed.
     
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  16. mellowmark

    mellowmark Savant (1,018) Mar 31, 2010 Utah

    Cool story.
     
  17. Chaney

    Chaney Pooh-Bah (2,031) Apr 20, 2006 District of Columbia
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    In other words, you don't like Southern Tier.
     
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  18. DaKur

    DaKur Initiate (0) Nov 15, 2012 Rhode Island

    So you couldn't taste any cow balls in your beer at all?? Thats horrible. Lol. But you did say you liked it. Minus the balls and you might not like it
     
  19. TheBeerAlmanac

    TheBeerAlmanac Initiate (0) Mar 3, 2011 Kentucky

    I love gimmicky beers, only because every well loved and respected style once started as a gimmick, as every religion once started as a cult. What I hate is when someone charges a premium for an obvious gimmick. Rogue's Maple Bacon Bullshit is a prime example: if their bombers had plain colored packaging and a more reasonable price, you might even find more people enjoying it (maybe not), and who knows, maple bacon beer could be what Belgian IPA's were a decade ago. I want brewers to express their creativity, but not be arrogant enough to assume it's the next coming of an imperial stout.

    And then there's shit like this, which defies respectability.
     
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  20. DaKur

    DaKur Initiate (0) Nov 15, 2012 Rhode Island

    On a more serious note I wouldn't call it a gimmick but an attempt by the brewery to stick out in the growing industry. There are only so many beers a store can or will order. Newport Storm '12 brewed with chipotle and habanero. No gimmick that shits hot in the throat. That was one beer that stuck out outta 100+ beers at the brew fest I attended.
     
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