Good (not great) breweries

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  1. MetalMountainMastiff

    MetalMountainMastiff Initiate (0) Oct 1, 2012 California
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    I've been thinking lately about some Breweries, that are very good! but NOT great. This came to me when tasting with my friends some Widmer Bros. Many good beers....But none ever shock me with greatness!!!

    What others are there, or if anyone disagrees with Widmer not being great.
  2. bryanole27

    bryanole27 Aspirant (227) Jun 24, 2011 North Carolina

    Mine has always been Highland, Sweetwater, and I'll agree on Widmer.

    I'm sure there's more though.
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  3. JulianC

    JulianC Aspirant (208) Mar 9, 2012 Illinois
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    Two Brothers.
  4. Duff27

    Duff27 Poo-Bah (1,796) Feb 10, 2010 Illinois
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    If I had to rate breweries based on their beers, Widmer would be lower than "good".
  5. ubenumber2

    ubenumber2 Devotee (468) Sep 1, 2012 Arkansas
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    I think the ones that I can get my hands on that make very good beer , but nothing that would be considered great are Abita , Tallgrass and Diamond Bear. I drink beers from all three of them and really like them , but they have yet to make a beer that makes people go crazy outside of their brewing region
  6. lookrider

    lookrider Defender (650) Apr 22, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    For me, the first that comes to mind here in PA is Weyerbacher
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  7. BB1313

    BB1313 Poo-Bah (2,698) Jul 16, 2009 Ohio

    Thirsty Dog, Two Brothers, Ithaca, Arcadia, and Anderson Valley come to mind.. all have a couple homeruns, but have a couple strikeouts as well..
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  8. jasonmason

    jasonmason Initiate (174) Oct 6, 2004 California

    New Belgium has always been at that level for me. Good stuff, but can't think of anything of theirs that's been on my "You HAVE to try this" list.

    Bootleggers, just because of their inconsistency.
  9. CommanderOfAwesome

    CommanderOfAwesome Devotee (469) Aug 30, 2012 California

  10. MetalMountainMastiff

    MetalMountainMastiff Initiate (0) Oct 1, 2012 California
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    Actually I should add Knee Deep brewing to this. Though Simtra is a great beer. One great won't save many good.
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  11. tjensen3618

    tjensen3618 Initiate (0) Mar 23, 2008 California

    There are tons of them, so I'll do some controversial one's

    Ballast Point: V@S is great, Sculpin's quality has taken a nosedive, all the rest are decent but I don't think I have ever repeat purchased any of them.

    Deschute's: Black Butte is one of my most purchased beers ever & Jubelale is a buy every year. Other than that I don't really find too much to get from them. Not a fan of any of the reserve series beers aside from Jubel 2010.
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  12. ThisWangsChung

    ThisWangsChung Poo-Bah (2,758) Oct 15, 2011 Maryland
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    Flying Dog. I like a LOT of their stuff (Wildeman, Raging Bitch, Horn Dog, Gonzo, Pearl Necklace, Kujo), but nothing they do really wows me.
  13. cjoc83

    cjoc83 Aspirant (282) Jul 31, 2010 Pennsylvania
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    The first thing that popped into my head when I saw the title of this thread was Victory. Sure, they make some really solid beers (Hop Devil, Golden Monkey, Whirlwind Wit), and even some pretty amazing ones (Yakima Glory, Prima Pils, Hop Wallop, Dark Intrigue), but they seem to lack a certain creativity as far as brewing varying styles and barrel aging.

    Flying Fish also comes to mind (although I'm a huge fan of the Exit 16 DIPA).
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  14. hopsbreath

    hopsbreath Initiate (0) Aug 28, 2009 Oregon

  15. mecummins

    mecummins Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2012 Illinois

    I'll second Two Brothers. I really like some of the beers (Domaine DuPage for starters), but the more I taste from other breweries, the more I can see where they are just OK beers, not amazing. 5 Rabbits out of Chicago falls into this category for me as well.
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  16. BigStein88

    BigStein88 Disciple (313) Nov 5, 2007 New Hampshire
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    So three "solids" and four "amazing" and you are disappointed? Tough company to keep!
  17. Nectar

    Nectar Initiate (0) Jan 17, 2013 New Jersey

    Victory, Ballast Point, Blue Point, Flying Fish, Weyerbacher, Flying Dog, Long Trail.

    I would say that opinions in this thread are relative. I thought a lot of these breweries listed were great at one pount in time. However, as the obsession evolved and I found other breweries not as readily available, well, theres only so much room at the top......
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  18. cjoc83

    cjoc83 Aspirant (282) Jul 31, 2010 Pennsylvania
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    I kind of consider Weyerbacher to be closer to 'great' than 'good'. Insanity and Heresy are amazing BA RIS's and barleywines, Riserva is a seriously great and seriously underrated sour, and Double Simcoe is an amazing DIPA. That's too many great beers for it to be just a 'good' brewery.
  19. cjoc83

    cjoc83 Aspirant (282) Jul 31, 2010 Pennsylvania
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    Pretty amazing, as in almost-great. They just don't brew any single beer that's a "must-try" or world-class. Maybe they're on the cusp of greatness? Lol...
  20. lookrider

    lookrider Defender (650) Apr 22, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    You're right. So we'll move Weyerbacher into the tweener category since it's better than good but not quite great.
  21. VncentLIFE

    VncentLIFE Meyvn (1,417) Feb 16, 2011 North Carolina
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    Flying Dog makes a few good beers, the rest are average. Weyerbacher as well. I just havent had enough great things from them to throw them in the great category.

    Highland makes good beer, but only one great beer (Thunderstruck). Triangle Brewing here in Durham makes good beer, and a few greats (Bourbon sour Dubbel comes to mind first).
  22. TheMonkfish

    TheMonkfish Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2012 Chad

    For me Smuttynose (local to me) is a good but not great one. They have a few rotating beers that are pretty good, but most of their stuff doesn't do much for me. I'm looking at you Finestkind - I want to like you, I really do.
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  23. Immortale25

    Immortale25 Poo-Bah (3,059) May 13, 2011 North Carolina
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    +1 for Flying Dog, Long Trail, Abita and Blue Point in descending order.
  24. tectactoe

    tectactoe Initiate (0) Mar 20, 2012 Michigan

    Arbor Brewing, New Holland, Arcadia Ales
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  25. incapacitant

    incapacitant Initiate (0) Jan 15, 2011 New York

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  26. victory4me

    victory4me Zealot (547) Oct 16, 2004 Pennsylvania

    That's blasphemy (no pun intended).
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  27. brewfly

    brewfly Initiate (0) Dec 13, 2012 New York

    magic hat, custom brewcrafters, saranac. has to be 100 varieties of beer between the 3 and nothing real memorable for me in the bunch
  28. MetalMountainMastiff

    MetalMountainMastiff Initiate (0) Oct 1, 2012 California
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    Auburn Ale house....not that that is an interesting one to add.
  29. BradtheGreat7

    BradtheGreat7 Defender (621) Jul 22, 2011 Ohio

    Just good? I think of Weyerbacher as in the 'big' 2nd tier of breweries. Just my thoughts though
  30. MetalMountainMastiff

    MetalMountainMastiff Initiate (0) Oct 1, 2012 California
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    Possibly....fiftyfifty...not sure..I love BART and ICED bart. Some Eclipse, and Donner Party and Annularity ....But something about them makes me want to say them..........maybe not!
  31. gatornation

    gatornation Poo-Bah (3,733) Apr 18, 2007 Minnesota
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    Central Waters regular lineup MEH but Illumination BB stout BBBW stellar
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  32. Whimpers

    Whimpers Disciple (392) Dec 17, 2010 New York
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    Sixpoint and Dogfish Head , a few fantastic beers apiece and a few not so much
  33. MikeWard

    MikeWard Meyvn (1,209) Sep 14, 2011 Pennsylvania

    Sticking to breweries where I've tried a bunch of their beers, I'll echo earlier posts about Anderson Valley, Flying Dog, Long Trail (barely makes "good" though) and Magic Hat. And I'll throw in Boulder, Heavy Seas, and Otter Creek.
  34. SeaOfShells

    SeaOfShells Initiate (0) Feb 22, 2011 California

    Honestly, I'm going with North Coast. Aside from Old Rasputin, they haven't wowed me. With that said though, Raspy is one of my favorite beers. I don't care for Scrimshaw, Red Seal, or Old #38 and La Merle is average at best. I do like Pranqster though. I just don't buy it very often. Oh and Old Stock...alcohol burn city.
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  35. CommanderOfAwesome

    CommanderOfAwesome Devotee (469) Aug 30, 2012 California

    I was just thinking this. I bought a few on Saturday after a long hike and was pumped to have a Sculpin. Really disappointed and didn't live up to what I remembered.
  36. mvdillman

    mvdillman Initiate (0) Dec 30, 2012 Indiana
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    Two Brothers for sure. Nothing really wows me
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  37. jbertsch

    jbertsch Meyvn (1,112) Dec 14, 2008 Massachusetts

    This is hilarious. "Good", not "great"? Talk about vague... aren't we just splitting hairs?

    Makes me want to start a thread like this in the New England Forum called " Awesome, but not wicked awesome breweries"
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  38. distvan

    distvan Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2010 Pennsylvania

    +1 sixpoint
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  39. cavedave

    cavedave Poo-Bah (2,441) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Russian River. Other than Beatification, Temptation, FFAC, Supplication, Pliny the Elder, Consecration, Blind Pig, Sanctification, and Pliny the Younger, their beers are merely good.
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  40. BrewTasting

    BrewTasting Initiate (0) Dec 8, 2010 Nevada
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    6-pack of Drifter makes everything great
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