Goose Island Bourbon County 2020 (Great Lakes)

Discussion in 'Great Lakes' started by Jplachy, Mar 30, 2020.

  1. Jplachy

    Jplachy Devotee (426) Feb 12, 2012 Illinois
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  2. HawksBeerFan

    HawksBeerFan Disciple (316) Dec 24, 2011 Illinois
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    So as many of us predicted, they really are leaning into the "reserve" angle (although these do not have the "reserve" branding on them, it's essentially what they are).
     
  3. Sabtos

    Sabtos Poo-Bah (8,376) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    The first label using Eagle Rare barrels states:

    "Collaboration with our friends at Buffalo Trace"

    but the second using Weller 12 barrels states:

    "Collaboration with our friends at Weller"

    Does that rub anyone else the wrong way? Makes it seem like there's a fundamental disconnect as to the sourcing.
     
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  4. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Champion (891) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    Smart. They have to do that as a way to differentiate it from shelf turding reg. GI's job is to move product, not let it collect dust. Considering it is very difficult to find reserve without going to a release day event this is a great tactic as this product will move.
     
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  5. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Champion (891) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    Almost like using AB-Inbev and then GI.
     
  6. Sabtos

    Sabtos Poo-Bah (8,376) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    Or like saying "Our friends at McDonald's" on one, and then "Our friends at Big Mac" on the other.
     
  7. Jplachy

    Jplachy Devotee (426) Feb 12, 2012 Illinois
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    I wonder if that wording was requested by Buffalo Trace.
     
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  8. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Champion (891) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    I wonder if April Fools is a bit early this year...
     
  9. Jplachy

    Jplachy Devotee (426) Feb 12, 2012 Illinois
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    I've def seen these barrels at the warehouse over the last couple of years.
     
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  10. jbecke2

    jbecke2 Initiate (162) Oct 22, 2011 Illinois
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    What Anniversary is it?
     
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  11. miniditka77

    miniditka77 Aspirant (240) May 21, 2015 Illinois
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    Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if they thought linking the Weller brand with Buffalo Trace would take away some of the Weller mystique. Not that Buffalo Trace is bad or anything, but people seem to regard anything labeled "Weller" as something special.
     
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  12. SeanBond

    SeanBond Meyvn (1,108) Jul 30, 2013 Illinois
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    Yeah, I think this is it. For the longest time, Weller was famous for being the best replacement for Pappy, and the hype has been going long enough now that Weller flies off the shelves just based on the strength of the brand (not saying it wasn't always great). To a lot of non-bourbon nerds, BT and Weller are completely different things.
     
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  13. Sabtos

    Sabtos Poo-Bah (8,376) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    Seems like a poor way to educate your customer base.

    Hey guys, we should go to the Weller distillery some time! Buffalo Trace is so last decade.
     
  14. Jplachy

    Jplachy Devotee (426) Feb 12, 2012 Illinois
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    The bottles of Weller say distilled and bottled by Buffalo Trace.
     
  15. Sabtos

    Sabtos Poo-Bah (8,376) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    Right. But how many people that drink Weller read the bottle, or own a whole bottle to take the time to read it, as opposed to getting a pour at a bar?

    And it seems like I'm also stating the obvious, but when the phrase on the BC label says "at Weller" as if that's as location, that's a misrepresentation or miseducation.
     
  16. William_Navidson

    William_Navidson Aspirant (221) May 1, 2015 Pennsylvania
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    ABI isn't really in the business of educating their customers lol, to put it nicely.
     
  17. Jplachy

    Jplachy Devotee (426) Feb 12, 2012 Illinois
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    The Reserve series is a great example of the education Goose does do around these beers. They say Elijah Craig on the box. But they bring Heaven Hill to Prop Day, they filmed videos at Heaven Hill, etc. They are likely to do the same thing here. I'll light my torch and grab my pitchfork in August if when they announce these they don't correlate the two.
     
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  18. kodt

    kodt Defender (630) Mar 6, 2013 Illinois
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    4th Anniversary of realizing they didn't actually first brew it in 1992.
     
  19. flat_lander

    flat_lander Crusader (757) May 11, 2016 Illinois
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    This thread starting was the pick me up I needed today.

    In semi-related news, drank my last Coffee BW the other night. Guess what? It's basically just a barleywine now. And pretry 'meh' at that.
     
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  20. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Champion (891) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    So if these are do in 2020 they would have gone in barrels a year ago and 6-9 months ago?
     
  21. HawksBeerFan

    HawksBeerFan Disciple (316) Dec 24, 2011 Illinois
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    I know they are running a business but from a consumer's point of view, I love that there is still BCBS regular available in a bunch of places. Often for a great price of $10.
     
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  22. Number1Framer

    Number1Framer Initiate (150) Mar 13, 2016 Wisconsin
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    This will be a great year for BCBS hype. Lines at stores will be loooooonger than ever due to social distancing.

    So does this look like what they are doing as a "new regular" BCBS? Hopefully the price doesn't swell too much from the fancy names on the labels because I'd like to try 'em but damn is my beer budget shot after being laid off for this damn virus!
     
  23. SeanBond

    SeanBond Meyvn (1,108) Jul 30, 2013 Illinois
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    Both of these labels say "2 years," so this is basically more along the lines of Rare. It'd be great if these bottles replaced some of the regular collecting dust all over (not that that's a bad thing for us), but I'm sure the will be super limited like the "big" variants always are...despite them showing up at Fulton and Clybourn for like the next decade.
     
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  24. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Champion (891) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    I don't know about you, but I've already started hording masks and gloves in anticipation of getting Prop Day 2020 tickets.
     
  25. Jangoon24

    Jangoon24 Disciple (349) Jul 25, 2015 Illinois
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    I'm intrigued as to how the Blanton's barrels will differ from the Eagle Rare, and Weller. Obviously it's aged 6 less months, but I'm referring to the nuances of barrel character in the stout.

    Blanton's is one of my go-to bourbons, since it's a nice balance of not overly sweet, and not crazy spicy, but I've been severely underwhelmed with almost all Blanton's BA stouts I've come across.
     
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  26. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Champion (891) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    They will mainly differ in nuance of the dollar amount....
     
  27. flat_lander

    flat_lander Crusader (757) May 11, 2016 Illinois
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    Agree with this 100%. What other beers can people think of that have been billed as Blanton's BA'd?

    A few years back (2017?) Transient/Beer Cellar's collab Neckbeard Nectar was aged in Blanton's barrels. I opened my recently and thought it was excellent.
     
  28. Sabtos

    Sabtos Poo-Bah (8,376) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    Hoppin Frog Blann Ton's Big Blast!!! :grin:
     
  29. Wolvmar

    Wolvmar Devotee (466) Jul 2, 2014 Michigan

    I doubt I could distinguish the brand of bourbon barrel that an otherwise identical BA beer was aged in. On their own, there are certainly distinguishable differences between BT, Weller, blantons and other bourbons. But when used to age a barleywine or big stout, I think the differences, besides aging time, would be very difficult to detect. But, I’m not a certified beer (or bourbon) judge by any stretch of the imagination.
     
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  30. rmpic82

    rmpic82 Devotee (494) Jan 27, 2017 Kansas
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    So, are we expecting all of these labels to be legit? Or are any of these going the way of the Oyster Stout?
     
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  31. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Champion (891) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    I think I made a similar comment and Jplachy said he saw barrels marked with these bourbons in the warehouse.
     
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  32. Sabtos

    Sabtos Poo-Bah (8,376) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    Doesn't mean they'll make it to market. Even with labels ready. Even if they get bottled.
     
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  33. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Champion (891) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    We could play the game with any label of "Doesn't mean it will make it to market" because who knows when an infection could wipe something out? I'd be willing to bet they do- Reserve is where the money is- it sells out and has black market value whereas adjuncts just crap up the shelves and "evolve" into bigger turds in 2 years, while a nice single bourbon barrel stout should age nicely for up to 5 years.
     
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  34. Sparty1224

    Sparty1224 Devotee (439) Jun 18, 2014 Michigan
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    This made me laugh out loud.
     
  35. miniditka77

    miniditka77 Aspirant (240) May 21, 2015 Illinois
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    Reserve sells out and has black market value because they don't make nearly as much of it. If they made as much Reserve as they did with Bramble and Mon Cheri, it would be crapping up shelves too.
     
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  36. Sabtos

    Sabtos Poo-Bah (8,376) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    Not to mention, I've found some of the Reserves to be markedly worse than regular
     
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  37. Dactrius

    Dactrius Poo-Bah (1,612) Apr 23, 2012 Wisconsin
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    I don't know many breweries that do an identical beer in different barrels and release them all at the same time, but there can definitely be pretty noticeable differences between them. Cherry Street brewing has released their 12.12.12 barleywine in 3 or 4 different whiskey barrels for the past two years and I open them all up together at a tasting. It's really interesting to taste the differences and hear everyone's opinions since they definitely vary.

    That said, I find that how much I like a bourbon doesn't necessarily translate into how much I'll like a beer aged in the barrel.
     
  38. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Champion (891) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    You are drinking it wrong.
     
  39. flat_lander

    flat_lander Crusader (757) May 11, 2016 Illinois
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    It's the drinking part he's got all wrong.
     
  40. SeanBond

    SeanBond Meyvn (1,108) Jul 30, 2013 Illinois
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    If they made as much Reserve as Bramble and Mon Cheri I'd probably buy no more than a bottle of Reg a year.

    HINT HINT GI
     
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