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Great on tap, undrinkable in the bottle?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by dmnielsen, Feb 23, 2013.

  1. dmnielsen

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    I had a nice visit to Arbor Brewing in Ann Arbor, MI with my family today. I ordered the Buzzsaw IPA with lunch and enjoyed it quite a bit. The bartender said that I had probably finished the keg, and they did not have another one until next week.

    After eating I inquired about a six of Buzzsaw to go, and two of the bartenders warned me against it, telling me that it was completely different than the keg version (which they called the "real" Buzzsaw) and that they do not like the six-pack version. They cited recent hop shortages and that to brew the bottled version they had to use different hops that completely changed the beer. Thankfully they had enough in the keg for a growler.

    I guess I don't go out enough to be able to compare bottle to keg of some of the things I drink regularly, but it seemed like either they had a demand to fill, they tried something that did not work, or they compromised their product and after talking so much with them (including a nice tour with my oldest son) they felt bad about passing off an inferior product. Has anyone found this at other breweries? Is this common? What do you all think?
     
  2. COBeerBuff

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    Did you happen to try any of the bottles? I'm hesitant to pass judgement until a BA confirms this...
     
  3. dmnielsen

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    Good question and good point, and I did not. I was just going off the bartenders telling me that they love Buzzsaw but do not like this batch of bottles. They told me that they were bottling another batch this week that would be much better. I just found it odd.
     
  4. RochefortChris

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    This hasn't happened to me very often but one I can think of is Dos Equis Amber. In the bottle it's very metallic but on draft it's great with Mexican food....then again that's the only time I drink it.
     
  5. COBeerBuff

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    Indeed. It's possible Buzzsaw could be a lot like Hopslam. Maybe the bottles don't hold up as well because they're not quite as fresh as the keg. Who knows. Breweries have been known to cut corners, but I would be surprised to learn if they really did use a different hop varietal, or if the bottles were just a bit too old. Most brewer's don't mess with their standard beer recipes, and if they do, they normally name the beer something completely different e.g. Buzzsaw w/ Citra. If this was the case, then unfortunately, college town bartenders are often uninformed when it comes to the beers their serving (from Boulder, CO).
     
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    When the Schlenkerla tavern is about to close, they hold off tapping any more wooden kegs and start serving bottles. The keg version is so much better that I inevitably choose to just head home instead of drinking the bottled version.

    Now, when the bottle is the only thing available...that's a different story.
     
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    I think many beers are better on draught, but downright undrinkable from the bottle? I'm hard-pressed to think of examples.

    I know Fat Tire is considerably worse from the bottle, but I wouldn't go so far as to call it undrinkable.
     
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    Tart Lychee was my immediate thought. I don't know if I'd go as far as undrinkable but not nearly as good.
     
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    Pabst...surprisingly good on tap. Can't imagine drinking it out of a bottle.
     
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    Bruery Ichigo Highway is great on tap, hated it out of the bottle.
     
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    I know it's just me but, I will only drink hopdevil from cask.
     
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    Most beers I've had are better on tap but I can't think of any that were undrinkable in comparison. Anything I've considered undrinkable from the bottle/can wasn't much better on tap.
     
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    sculpin on tap great sculpin in the bottle (roll the dice)
     
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    Draught never sees light until it hits the glass. It makes sense that it tastes better. My opinion of a beer is usually better when I get it on tap.
     
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    I wouldn't say undrinkable, but there's a HUGE difference between Lake Placid Brewery's on-tap vs. bottles. The on tap stuff is brewed in the pub in Lake Placid. The bottled stuff is brewed in the Saranac brewery in Utica. Lake Placid IPA from a bottle is meh, from the pub, it's divine. They are literally two different beers.
     
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    I would say any brewery with infection issues with bottles. LA, MTH, etc
     
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    A surpising number of FFF. Gumballhead, Behemoth, Pride & Joy all jump to mind immediately.
     
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    Pretty much all things Port Brewing / LA
     
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    Honestly I have had Sierra Nevada Pale ale in the bottle on draft and in the can
    The can is hands down the BEST tasting SNPA imho
     
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    Yup. Guaranteed carbonation and no infections.
     
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    I liked Zombie Dust better in the bottle than I did on tap. However, i had it in a tulip glass out of the bottle, but we had a pitcher of the draft and regular glasses.
     
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    I would say more often i enjoy the bottle better than the tap. Today i had an old stock on tap and i swear it has more flavor from the bottle.
     
  25. atomic

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    Its not often you see Duvel on tap, but I had some once and LOVED it. Had it from the bottle and I really was not impressed. Wouldn't call it undrinkable, but I didn't enjoy it anywhere near as much as when I had it on tap.
     
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    The most recent release of Highland Cold Mountain tasted substantially better from the bottle compared to on tap.
     
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    Hell or High Watermelon. Tastes great at the brew pub on draft, but the cans are gross I would never buy a 6 pack. This is because the contract brewer uses a different recipe then the brew pub which is unfortunate.
     
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    Pliny the Younger *swoosh*
     
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    While there can be differences keg to bottle, what you describe involves differences from batch to batch using different hops in each batch. They should taste different even if both come a keg because they are two different beers.

    This is not normal and would be a greater difference than anything you'd find in the difference between the same beer with identical ingredients in two different containers.

    That said, yes there can be a noticeable difference between the same beer depending on keg vs bottle, just not so large, and no it is not common that a brewery will release two different recipes and call them by the same name.
     
  30. Whimpers

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    Good to know because every lake placid bottle i have had suuucks
     
  31. jlordi12

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    Herb, 1484 posts and they all mention Schlenkerla. It's like Joe Dimaggio's hit streak , it will never be broken.
     
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    I don't know anything about the brewery from your post, so I'm not sure if this is a relevant or not.

    Its been awhile since I've had anything from them, but there used to be a big difference between the bottled and kegged versions of Lancaster Brewing's beers. It turns out that the bottles were contract brewed. I'm not sure if they still are, but there was a noticeable drop off in the quality of their bottled beer.
     
  33. 19etz55

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    I generally find it the opposite. I'll try a beer on tap that I've had in a bottle and usually the the tap brew isn't as good as the bottled version. Pretty disappointing when you think the draft beer would be better.
     
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    Also came here to mention Hell or High Watermelon. MUCH better on tap. The cans are downright repulsive.
     
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    Agree 100%
     
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    I wouldn't call it undrinkable in the bottle, but 60 Minute is WAY better on draft then it is in the bottle. Almost doesn't even seem like the same beer to me.
     
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    Pearl Street Brewery Dankenstein. Don't get me wrong...I love Pearl Street...it's the brewery that got me into drinking craft beer, but I have never experienced such a dramatic taste difference between something on tap vs bottled. As soon as they started bottling Dank, I picked up a 4 pack and was severely underwhelmed. The bottled version literally tasted how lacquer smells! I thought perhaps it was just that batch so I tried another bottle from a fresh batch months later and still the same.
     
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    Dark Horse Tres Blueberry Stout is awesome on tap and just meh in a bottle IMO. Anyone else agree or disagree?
     
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    Blue point sour cherry stout is atrocious in bottle. Had a draught last night and it was a complete 180 from the bottle.
     
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