Great on tap, undrinkable in the bottle?

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  1. Herky21

    Herky21 Crusader (718) Aug 7, 2011 Iowa
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    The problem, especially with small breweries, is often technological. If a small brewery cannot afford a fancy bottling line they will often have cheaper bottling lines with a lot of manual involvement. A lot of small breweries that bottle 22 oz. bottles, for instance, use 4 row bottlers that require a person to use a device to shoot CO2 into the bottle, to ove the bottle over (exposing it to oxygen) and to place it onto the machine, which has a precarious sealing mechanism. Then, the brewer has to try to cap on foam so some small brewers will place the bottle under a bench capper (hand one) and then tap the base of the bottle with a screwdriver handle or something until the bottle foams. then they try to cap on the foam, which hopefully, has pushed all of the CO2 out. While this won't necessarily change the substantive nature of the beer, when you introduce oxygen, and dust, and other external elements the beer may be exposed to, you won't have the same product consistently.

    Kegging is much easier to do with cheap equipment and doesn't have any oxygen exposure issues due to the pressurized nature of the keg. It will often be done in the cold box too, instead of on the floor, so there is no risk of the beer warming as it travels through tap-like lines and thus losing some CO2 with the rising temperature.

    The part about the brewery using different hops is a whole different type of problem and would be a surprisingly stupid thing to do IMO.
  2. Blueribbon666

    Blueribbon666 Zealot (596) Jul 4, 2008 Ohio

    Damn near anything in a green bottle...except Yuengling for me oddly enough, which is fine in green.
  3. m4ttj0nes

    m4ttj0nes Aspirant (204) Feb 21, 2012 Oregon
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    I don't buy bottles/cans of any beer I regularly enjoy on draft. Bottles/cans are saved for beers I can't get on draft.
  4. Mothergoose03

    Mothergoose03 Poo-Bah (2,121) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    The servers or bartenders who are knowledgeable about the beers of a brewpub are usually right. The bottled version may not have been undrinkable (that's a subjective thing) but you should heed their warning. I was once in a small brewpub and I ordered the only beer that they brewed, and the server told me that it was not very good, and that I could have a sample if I chose before ordering a pint. I sampled it, and it was a bad beer. Suffice to say, that brewery is no longer brewing beer, but the place is still open as a restaurant with a good variety of bottled offerings.
  5. HipsterBrewfus

    HipsterBrewfus Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2012 Maryland

    Boy, you guys really throw around the term "Undrinkable"
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  6. jk3

    jk3 Initiate (0) Nov 18, 2011 New York

  7. teorn88

    teorn88 Initiate (146) Jun 5, 2010 United Kingdom (England)
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    Fullers London Pride is great from the bottle, meh on cask. It can happen the other way around as well.
  8. 7ate9

    7ate9 Aspirant (212) Apr 26, 2007 Virginia

    terrapin spike and jeromes collab.
    The bottle was a terrible, sour, bitter, flat, oily abomination.
    The tap version was a pretty decent barrel aged rye wine.
  9. ncaudle

    ncaudle Defender (602) May 28, 2010 Virginia
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    which bottle did you have as there are 2 versions: short/stubby is from BFM, the bomber is from Terrapin. they are completely different brews...
  10. Roudy

    Roudy Initiate (0) Aug 20, 2009 Georgia

    Sculpin at the Ballast Point facility = awesome

    Bombers of it I've bought at the Ballast Point facility = awesome

    When I visit my daughter at college, the Total Wine in Winston-Salem has Sculpin, but I invariably find one bottle type (usually 12 oz) that has plenty of months left on the "drink by" date, while other sizes (usually bombers) are at or past their drink by dates. I won't even try Sculpin that's past its prime.
  11. 7ate9

    7ate9 Aspirant (212) Apr 26, 2007 Virginia

    I see! The bottle I had was the short, stubby flip-top bottle. The tap version must have been the one brewed at terrapin, which was much better.
  12. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Champion (813) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey
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    I find most beers to be better on tap,just somewhat not a lot.
  13. keithmurray

    keithmurray Meyvn (1,145) Oct 7, 2009 Connecticut

    Radeberger - divine when served on tap, in the bottle, it is a shadow of its tap excellence
  14. BlowstotheBody

    BlowstotheBody Initiate (0) Oct 22, 2012 Florida

    Breckenridge Vanilla Porter. "Undrinkable" may be a bit harsh, but it's damn tasty on tap and pretty mediocre bottled.
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