Has anyone ever been banned from a brewery for what they've posted online?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by fegelFatso, Aug 8, 2019.

  1. fegelFatso

    fegelFatso Initiate (140) Jun 23, 2013 California

    Cheers everyone!

    For those of you who have paid attention to The Bruery's BA forum probably know what happened earlier this week, but someone was banned (not from BA, but from The Bruery) for writing a profanity-laden rage post that the CEO believed was directed at The Bruery and their staff... I sorta see where he was coming from (plus, it's his company, and he can do what he pleases), but pointed out that this does set a precedent...

    But I'm curious how true that is. Do any of you have any stories of other breweries banning people for what they post on here, or on social media in general? This is more out of curiosity than anything TBH, but I'm wondering if a new precedent was set or if this has happened before.

    ***Disclaimer: Post not directed at anyone in particular***
     
  2. Frosty11161

    Frosty11161 Devotee (419) May 2, 2016 California
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    Haha where's that chenman guy when you need him.
     
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  3. Beer_Stan

    Beer_Stan Initiate (114) Mar 15, 2014 California
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    Only time people get banned for anything at breweries/bars/pubs is for being a public disgrace/danger/nuisance. However, if you start saying inflammatory things online about a real person who has the power to keep you at a fair distance from an establishment you seem to take exception with then whats stopping them from stopping you.
     
  4. Black_Rider

    Black_Rider Zealot (550) Mar 26, 2013 California
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    I was banned from Sav-on when I was 15 for getting on the microphone and saying some stuff

    that's all I got
     
  5. fegelFatso

    fegelFatso Initiate (140) Jun 23, 2013 California

    I wonder what would happen if you went back to that Sav-on (or whatever it's called now) today. They would probably have to do some serious forensics to identify you and kick you out for something you did at least a decade or two (I don't know your age) ago.
     
  6. Beer_Stan

    Beer_Stan Initiate (114) Mar 15, 2014 California
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    That must have been a life time ago lol (right up there with Lucky's, Alpha-Beta, Smith's, Thriftys, Pizza Show and Circuit City)
     
  7. Black_Rider

    Black_Rider Zealot (550) Mar 26, 2013 California
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    man, I miss Thrifty's. double scoop of rocky road and mint-n-chip for like 30 cents

    yes, I'm old
     
  8. Beer_Stan

    Beer_Stan Initiate (114) Mar 15, 2014 California
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    Yea I miss the day's when Pizza Hut was an actually respectable establishment (for the younger people, the logo is modeled after the roofs the sit down restaurants used to have) :rofl::rofl::rofl:
     
  9. Black_Rider

    Black_Rider Zealot (550) Mar 26, 2013 California
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    I worked at Pizza Hut for a while delivering pizzas when I was 18. unfortunately never had any bored housewives proposition me for sex

    anyway, I digress..

    want to hear about people getting banned
     
  10. Beer_Stan

    Beer_Stan Initiate (114) Mar 15, 2014 California
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    We had to ban a guy at my former (Jewish owned) brewery job for saying some out of pocket anti-semitic comments while drunk. Thankfully it didn't escalate beyond that but it was definitely a scene.
     
  11. StonedRaider

    StonedRaider Initiate (136) Oct 25, 2007 California
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    Just don’t touch the tanks
     
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  12. Daniel_T

    Daniel_T Initiate (47) Feb 19, 2015 California

    This guy gets it.
     
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  13. Beer_Stan

    Beer_Stan Initiate (114) Mar 15, 2014 California
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    I can't imagine too many people getting banned from what they post on BA though due to the anonymity of the users. Unless the user is well known outside of it and recognizable.
     
  14. stevepat

    stevepat Defender (693) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    For the record it seems he was removed from the membership and refunded for the remainder of the year and removed from the renewal list for said membership (the latter he explicitly requested, the former is what people seem to be referring to as 'being banned') but I don't think that he was banned from the establishment or anything, just kicked out of the beer club
     
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  15. fegelFatso

    fegelFatso Initiate (140) Jun 23, 2013 California

    Not sure about that... the end of Barry's post said "You are no longer welcome at The Bruery." Now if that was considered a knee-jerk reaction and redacted, then alright, but I'm going off of what was said there. Wouldn't be surprised to see a "Do Not Serve" sign on the wall with his picture next to mine.
     
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  16. fegelFatso

    fegelFatso Initiate (140) Jun 23, 2013 California

    I wonder how easy it is for people to link names to accounts. I think it's pretty obvious for me... my fat mug is my avatar, and people know me as FegelFatso. But for the record, my name is Terrence Mullens, my email is glasstothearson@yahoo.com (old college email... never got rid of it for some reason), and my social security number is 531-27-9151 (if you believe that last one, you're more gullible than me!)
     
  17. fegelFatso

    fegelFatso Initiate (140) Jun 23, 2013 California

    What I'm going off of @stevepat
     
  18. AZBeerDude72

    AZBeerDude72 Poo-Bah (1,745) Jun 10, 2016 Arizona
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    What you say and do matters. It does not matter if your online or in person, words/actions have real world consequences. Folks today best wise up. Just because your are online does not buffer you from issues. Companies today can fire you over what you post as well as ban you from their business if they feel fit.
    I am not sure how they could every know this person showed up, if he is not asked for ID they would never know and honestly its probably more anger than anything, I doubt they would ever waste their time looking for this person. And the poster said they are DONE with this place anyway so who cares, they won't go there anyway.
    Cheers
     
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  19. IcyTrout

    IcyTrout Initiate (154) Feb 1, 2018 California

    SO you think people should be banned from an establishment because they are frustrated and said a couple cuss words in their criticism of said establishment? I could see if a person singled out an employee and berated them but the company as a whole? Quite the slipperly slope there.

    Whats next, you give a beer 1 star on untappd and you get banned?
     
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  20. fegelFatso

    fegelFatso Initiate (140) Jun 23, 2013 California

    In all fairness, Patrick Rue has nothing to do with it. He’s no longer the CEO of The Bruery (yeah, that’s news to me too!)

    Barry Holmes, the new CEO of The Bruery, was the one who imposed the ban.
     
  21. AZBeerDude72

    AZBeerDude72 Poo-Bah (1,745) Jun 10, 2016 Arizona
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    I never said that? Where did I say "I" think a person should be banned?

    What I said was that what you say matters and companies/business have a right to act on your words. Has zero to do with me or my thoughts. My entire point was folks go online and think they can say anything and they can, but they also can face serious real life issues as a result.
     
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  22. Black_Rider

    Black_Rider Zealot (550) Mar 26, 2013 California
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    It's true, it does become a grey area - and a moral conundrum.

    Obviously it would be illegal to ban someone from a brewery due to their race or gender. But what if a brewery chose to ban a customer because they didn't like guacamole?
     
  23. drtth

    drtth Poo-Bah (3,943) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania

    Thanks for the update. Does Rue still own the brewery or was that sold?
     
  24. nc41

    nc41 Poo-Bah (1,866) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    As always freedom of speech doesn’t mean freedom from repercussions. There has to be some responsibility for an adult. Hey, it’s his business, he can do about what he pleases, and he can prove why he banned the guy. As long as it’s not race, religion, or orientation isn’t an issue then be gone with you, how they’d enforce that is another thing.
     
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  25. Jasonja1474

    Jasonja1474 Initiate (179) Oct 15, 2018 Tennessee
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    I was banned from a Kroger for trying to purchase South Paw as a teenager. Insert shoulder shrug here.
     
  26. stevepat

    stevepat Defender (693) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    I managed to miss that part of his response, that is interesting and does imply an actual ban. To me that seems like a step too far. Removing someone from the membership over an aggressive post is more than I would personally do but I can understand the sentiment given how much 'community'/'family' vibe some breweries seem to try to build around their memberships. Banning someone from the establishment for venting about an instance of bad service just seems really petty
     
  27. AZBeerDude72

    AZBeerDude72 Poo-Bah (1,745) Jun 10, 2016 Arizona
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    I cannot see how they enforce an onsite ban? How would they know the person was on their premise unless they carded everyone? I doubt they are going to waste their time on one person.

    Regarding the membership, I bet it has terms/conditions and I bet one of them is the right to terminate it for any reason they feel fit. I am not a member but I bet money there is a legal rider tied to it allowing them to bar a person from being a member.
    Cheers
     
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  28. thesherrybomber

    thesherrybomber Aspirant (276) Jun 13, 2017 California
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    How will they recognize this person from their screen name/avatar/posts?
     
  29. nc41

    nc41 Poo-Bah (1,866) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    And pay in cash.
     
  30. IcyTrout

    IcyTrout Initiate (154) Feb 1, 2018 California

    I don’t think anyone is saying that a brewery legally can’t ban someone for comments online. I’m pretty sure (at least in my case) people are saying that a brewery shouldn’t ban someone for criticism.
     
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  31. meanmutt

    meanmutt Meyvn (1,122) Feb 6, 2012 Ohio
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    Lol... I drank a lot of South Paw before I was 21.

    Sketchy dude that ran the deli across the street from where I worked never carded anyone.
     
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  32. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (4,098) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Did you say: "Clean up in Aisle 3"!?!:grimacing:

    Cheers!
     
  33. OTB

    OTB Devotee (452) Sep 2, 2011 California

    Yea but you can still get that great Thrifty Ice Cream at a lot of Rite-Aid's, however, it's not quite 30 cents for the double scoop anymore, but the ice cream is still wonderful.

    Cheers,
     
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  34. bbtkd

    bbtkd Poo-Bah (2,558) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    I delivered pizza and one gal answer the door in see-through negligee. I was engaged, she wasn't hot. Also had a clingy ex pay me in coins and wanted me to stay and count it. Got drinks all the time, and was offered substances. Hell of a job in a college town...

    But no, never banned for any reason, but I had been going to a bar regularly for two years, then asked for a birthday drink on my 18th birthday (18yr old drinking age). They weren't pleased, wanted to ban me.
     
  35. drtth

    drtth Poo-Bah (3,943) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania

    Can you define/describe your view of "decent" thread? If your definition and mine are similar there's a couple I can point you towards to look at.
     
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  36. PA-Michigander

    PA-Michigander Meyvn (1,403) Nov 10, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    POS systems, depending on their level of advancedness, can be set up to alert on names when starting a tab.

    Clearly ways around that, via cash, having a friend start the tab, etc. but it’s not hard to flag someone initially.
     
  37. FBarber

    FBarber Poo-Bah (2,825) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    Especially when said venting/rant occurs on a beer website/forum. Its not like the guy went into the establishment and cussed out staff. If that had happened I'd have no issue with a ban.
     
  38. drtth

    drtth Poo-Bah (3,943) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania

    Isn't it? What is the difference that makes a difference? For sure I would. See my post earlier in this thread. The right to free speech actually has limitations.
     
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  39. purephase

    purephase Initiate (134) Feb 23, 2008 Connecticut
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    I'm someone who has a kneejerk bias towards breweries in most of these disputes simply due to the level of entitlement I've witnessed from other craft beer consumers, but for the particular incident that gave rise to this thread I'm 100% on the BA user's side. The Bruery CEO self-righteously pretending he was just protecting his employees when none of them were actually attacked and digging up the user's personal details to inform him he was banned is a complete joke.
     
  40. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Devotee (479) Apr 8, 2017 Indiana
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    You are normally well spoken, but in this post I don’t have a god damn clue what you said (or were trying to say).